Dean on Live with Davis NOW (2:20 PM ) CNN (Off now)

[Khephra]

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[Khephra]

1. Dean is linking this whole deal up with the Texas redistricting

They're going on the counter-attack against the Hard Right agenda it seems!

:party:

[FauxNewsBlues]

20. Is Dean "the rabbit"?

I am supporting Dean as of now. I like what he has to say, and the way he says it. He is going out hard fast though, and I am wondering if that is the best strategy for the long haul though.

I am thinking of the "rabbit" in long distance races, who pushes everybody up to a certain pace, and then ends up dropping out, often by design.

Dean has made it cool to slam the President. The other contenders criticisms were much more muted, IMHO, til Dean showed them that they could bash the president hard and still be allowed to live. Right now though, it seems like Liberman and Tom Delay are going to try to take turns knocking Dean off his perch. He could stumble. However, I think that the party, the country needs to acknowledge the contribution of Dean to this race, no matter whom is the nominee. Dean has finally set the tone of righteous anger. It works, because it's genuine, and those who have been shafted by * respond to it.

Thanks Dr. Dean.

[Demobrat]

21. Of course he will stumble.

He's a man. He's not perfect. And before it's over, the GOP will throw eveything they've got at him. Just think what he's up against. But that doesn't mean he won't win in the end.

[DFLforever]

22. Dean is raising the presidential contest/struggle to a whole new level

and just at the time when some people think he should be ready to 'peak'. He's an unbelievably forthright and fealess man... and it's this rather than any liberalism or leftist policy proposals which makes me wonder if he'll ever be permitted to be president.

[RichV]

2. Wow

Harsh rhetoric from what I've seen. Wish I'd caught the beginning.

[Khephra]

4. I missed a lot of it

But it sounded like Dean's most pointed attack at the RW agenda yet!

[Khephra]

3. An attempt by the RW to undo what this country is about

paraphrased...Dean

[madfloridian]

12. Attack on the Democratic underpinnings of our country.

This was very brave.

[RichV]

5. 3.3 million?

Davis said 3.3 million jobs lost since W came in. I read 2.7 million earlier today. What makes the difference?

[Vikingking66]

8. new figures

The 2.7 million was from a report in January.
The August report that just came in shows an additional 600,000 losses since then.

[Khephra]

6. CNN cut the coverage

But they will be talking about this soon...I have no doubt about it. The Radical Right won't take a pointed attack like that one which links everything the RW is doing into one knot.

[truthisfreedom]

25. WOOHOO! HERE'S THE TRANSCRIPT!

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0309/06/se.04.html

<snip>
If you go back and look at what's happened in this country since the Supreme Court decided that George Bush had won the presidential election, you will find the following things. First, the conservative-dominated United States Supreme Court opted not to recount the votes in the state of Florida, overruling the state court. Secondly, this spring in Colorado, the conservative legislature and conservative governor broke all precedents by redistricting the Colorado Congressional Delegation, and thus making it likely that the Democrats would lose seats.

Recently, I met with the 10 senators from Texas who are in New Mexico because they have changed the rules in the Texas State Senate and allowed a majority, a small majority, instead of two-thirds vote, to bring up yet another redistricting plan, unprecedented in the history of Texas. After only two years later, after doing the previous redistricting plan, which would, by all accounts, take away additional Democratic congressional seats. And finally, we now have in California a financed -- self-financed initiative to be put on the ballot by one of the most right wing conservative members of the Congress who paid for this largely out of his own money to undo an election that has been held less than a year ago.

I believe the right wing of the Republican Party is deliberately undermining the Democratic underpinnings of this country. I believe that they do not care what Americans think, and they do not accept the legitimacy of our elections, and have now for the fourth time in the fourth state attempted to do what they can to remove democracy from America.

Democracy is what's made this country the greatest country on earth, the most stable democracy in the history of the world, over 200 years. What's going on in California, in the nation's biggest state, is nothing less than an attempt by the right wing to undo what this country is all about.

That's what the 2004 presidential election's going to be about, is democracy, our ideals, and who shall govern, and how we shall govern, with the consent of the people. This president, this right wing of the Republican Party, evidently holds the consent of the people in low regard.
<snip>

incredible! i love it!

[liberalnurse]

7. I saw the whole thing.....

Dean connected the dots from .....

the Supreme Court ruling, redistricting in Colorado and Texas leading up to the privately financed California recall and pointing straight at this administration.

Powerful words, presentation was stiff still....He has to loosen-up and engage the audience.

[Khephra]

10. Yeah...what you said...I'll wait for a transcript

I've been doing data entry all day and my hands hurt to much to transcribe something that will be up somewhere else soon.

Thanks for summing that up for us!

:toast:

Although, I think he was very relaxed today.

[liberalnurse]

14. I'm glad to hear others think he was not as stiff.

I'm so hooked into each word he says I can be a bit hard on him. He sure looked good on Thursday.....The best I have seen him on televised presentations.

I think that he still needs to engage the audience a bit better.....Remember Gore. Oh, he's not that bad by any means but there is still work to be done.

[madfloridian]

18. Firm but not stiff, you are right.

He was serious, as he was saying something powerful.

[Khephra]

9. Here's what I got on tape ( a bit of paraphrasing..it's not exact)

Dean: ...to vote no on the recall..and the reason for that isn't really not about Davis's record, but because I think this is the 4th attempt to undermine democracy by the RW of the Republican party since the 2000 elections.

[unfrigginreal]

11. Expect the Media Ho's to play him as a "conspiracy theorist" now...

I say welcome to the club Governor...Kick ass and take names!!!

He layed it out...stolen election in 2000, GOP redistricting in Colorado, GOP redistricting in Texas and Right Wing funded recall in California...he said that the Republicans are attempting to undermine Democracy.

The people of America will never hear these truths from the mainstream media. That's why 70% of Americans today still believe that Iraq was involved in 9/11.

[Khephra]

13. I know this will play just fine with Dean's supporters

So any conspiracy theorist attacks will just fall off his back there.

And Dean's never been about living up to the Mainstream media's view of what it takes to get coverage--he's forced them to pay attention to him.

All the other candidates are now on the Anti-Bush bandwagon (and yes, some of them have been there all along)...so this pushes it a bit further. Dean's spoken out against the radical rw agrenda before--even going so far as to say that he wouldn't be told what to do by fundamentalist preachers anymore...so...he takes it to the next level.

It's not just about Bush now for Dean (and it never really has, as said before)...it's about the whole ball o'wax.

[unfrigginreal]

17. I'm with ya' khephra!

I hope you didn't think that I was negative about the statement that Dean made...I loved it, he's such a breath of fresh air...he speaks the truth.

I do think that we need to keep an eye on how the media reports this though...and raise holy hell with them if they start sneering about it.

Love your "whole ball of wax" statement...I recently used the same line on the Dean blog.

[Khephra]

19. Nah...

And thanks!

:hi:

[legin]

15. Nice to see

Dean sticking up for a Democratic guy under pressure from the GOP, something we have complained about for not being done in the past.

[concord]

16. Brought tears to my eyes

He was clear and deliberate and serious. It was a heartfelt delivery and it felt so good hearing him calmly tell it like it is.

Go Dean!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[corgigrrl]

23. here's the words for you folks

"I think this is the fourth attempt to undermine democracy in this country by the right wing of the Republican Party since the 2000 elections," said Dean.

Other examples, he said, were the refusal by the "conservative-dominated United States Supreme Court" to order a recount of the votes in Florida during the 2000 presidential election and separate GOP-led redistricting efforts in Colorado and Texas that could result in a loss of seats currently held by Democrats.

"I believe the right wing of the Republican Party is deliberately undermining the democratic underpinnings of this country," Dean told a news conference.

"I believe they do not care what Americans think and they do not accept the legitimacy of our elections and have now, for the fourth time in the fourth state, attempted to do what they can to remove democracy from America."

Only after the October 7 recall vote will he decide whom to support for the Democratic presidential nomination, Davis said. But, he added about the former Vermont governor, "he has precisely the right experience to be president."

Dean said it would be unfair to hold Davis wholly responsible for the state's budget deficit, which has since been pared to $8 billion.

"The deficit that was incurred last year is directly traceable to the president of the United States' extraordinary financial policy in which he managed to turn the largest surplus in the history of America into the largest deficit in the history of America in only two-and-a-half years," he said.

Asked whether his presidential bid might be adversely affected by his support for Davis, Dean responded, "I don't care. My trademark is I say what I think, for better or for worse."

He added, "I'm tired of having this country run by the right wing. That is not where most people are in this country, and I think we ought not to put up with this anymore."

Asked whether he believed the White House was involved in the effort to unseat Davis, Dean said, "Absolutely. I think Karl Rove and George Bush have their hand in this."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/06/dean.davis/index.html

enjoy

[Khephra]

24. I'm so happy I caught most of it live

That was the best asskicking handed out by Dean to the Radical Right that I think I might have ever seen.