Robert Kennedy's Killer Wants Hotel Left Standing

[wicket]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1896&ncid=1896&e=1&u=/nm/20041203/us_nm/people_sirhan_dc_1

The lawyer for Robert Kennedy's assassin, Sirhan Sirhan, has gone to court to stop the demolition of the hotel where the late senator was shot dead, saying that there is evidence in its walls that can prove his client innocent.

Attorney Lawrence Teeter claims the 60-year-old Sirhan was set up as a dupe in the 1968 assassination, despite shooting at Kennedy in front of witnesses.

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The suit said that bullet holes in the walls and ceiling where Kennedy was killed on June 5, 1968, prove that more than one gun was used to shoot the New York senator.

Teeter wants the hotel to remain standing so that an acoustical reenactment of the crime can take place. He argues that modern technology can prove how many shots were fired.

[Richardo]

1. Give him this message from me: "STFU and die already."

[geek tragedy]

12. Roger that. eom

[jbane]

28. Agreed

That piece of shit prevented us from having Bobby Kennedy and gettin Nixon instead.
And he did shoot the Senator.

[Minstrel Boy]

2. It was a sweet frame-up.

Here's an hour-long presentation on the case for Sirhan's innocence by Attorney Lawrence Teeter. Worth a listen:

http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/lawrence_teeter-june_7_2003.mp3

Don't get me started about Sirhan. Don't get Vincent Bugliosi started, either (persuaded of Sirhan's innocence, he worked on an RFK conspiracy case in the mid-70s). You want to talk about a patsy....

Sirhan is still suffering hypnotic blocks on the night, and can't remember what happened. The prosecution admitted he had been hypnotized, but argued that he had hypnotized himself.

Sirhan worked in a stable owned by Mafioso Carlos Marcello. He suffered a head injury, which possibly contributed to his demonstrably high vulnerability to hypnotic suggestion.

Sirhan's last memory of that evening is of having coffee with a woman in a polka dot dress. He was seen in her company, with another man, entering the Ambassador hotel. After the shooting, a number of witnesses saw a woman in a polka dot dress flee with a man, and separate accounts have the woman saying "We shot him! We shot Kennedy!"

The technical advisor to the original Manchurian Candidate, Dr William Joseph Bryan Jr, liked to brag about famous jobs he'd taken on for police departments and the CIA. For instance, he boasted to prostitutes about having hypnotized Albert Di Salvo, the convicted Boston Strangler, while Di Salvo was in custody. He also spoke about having worked with Sirhan. It didn't mean anything to the hookers, but the thing is, he never had access to Sirhan in custody. And here's a funny thing: in Sirhan's notebook of "automatic writing," the name "Di Salvo" is scribbled, though Sirhan claims to not recognize it. Perhaps Bryan couldn't keep from boasting of his past accomplishments, even with Sirhan under hypnosis.

RFK was shot from behind at an upwards trajectory, the gun nozzle no more than an inch from his skin. Sirhan was standing a foot to a foot and a half in front of Kennedy. Multiple witnesses saw only flashes and paper residue flying from Sirhan's gun, suggesting he was firing blanks. Many present who had heard many gunshots in their lifetimes said Sirhan's gun sounded more like a cap pistol.

In photos of RFK lying wounded on the floor, there's a clip-on tie by his outstretched hand. It's the tie of security guard Thane Eugene Caesar, who was contracted to work that night, had CIA links, and was standing at precisely the spot from where, according to the coroner, RFK's killer must have fired. Kennedy grabbed his tie and pulled it off as he fell. Caesar lied about his possession of a gun which matched the murder weapon.

Photos of the crime scene show many more bullet holes than can be accounted for by Sirhan’s gun. (The LAPD subsequently removed the wood panels and ceiling tiles and destroyed them.) Five people were shot, one twice, besides Kennedy, who himself was shot four times. To account for Sirhan hitting them all, requires several "magic" bullets with astonishing trajectories.

In his book The Search for the Manchurian Candidate, John Marks writes of the CIA's efforts to create a programmed killer via MKULTRA. He quotes a CIA veteran who says the program was unnecessary, as a mercenary can be found to kill anyone for a price. What is more useful is a programmed patsy. Marks writes further of a "programmed patsy":

"The purpose of this exercise is to leave a circumstantial trail that will make the authorities think the patsy committed a particular crime. The weakness might well be that the amnesia would not hold up under police interrogation, but that would not matter if the police did not believe his preposterous story about being hypnotized or if he were shot resisting arrest."

I recommend reading DiEugenio and Pease's anthology The Assassinations, and William Turner's The Assassination of Robert F Kennedy.

[flying_blind]

18. Was *anyone* ever assassinated by the proverbial lone gunman???

Seriously, I think the bombing of the USS Liberty (which we were complicit in see - http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/06/1620694_comment.php ) along with the killings of Babby Kennedy and MLK marked the beginning of the corporate takeover of our nation. Seems irrefutably so after 2-3 hours a day of reading and researching since 9/11 (MIHOP).

[Corgigal]

30. I also believe they never tested

Sirhan for gun residue either. I read that is some book years ago.
If true, I always found that interesting and telling.

[Minstrel Boy]

3. "Sirhan was out of position and out of range"

Statement from Lawrence Teeter:

The assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy shortly after midnight on June 5, 1968, changed the course of world history. Senator Kennedy had promised to end the war in Vietnam if elected as President, as seemed likely to happen following his victory in the June 4 California Democratic Presidential primary election.

At first glance, the RFK case seems open and shut. After all, Sirhan Sirhan was arrested with a gun in hand at the scene. There the simplicity ends, however. There is an abundance of evidence which refutes the official version of this crime.

1. Sirhan was out of position and out of range and therefore could not have shot Robert Kennedy. The Senator was shot from behind, but all witnesses place Sirhan in front of him in a face-to-face position. All witnesses placed Sirhan's gun at between 1.5 and 5 feet from Senator Kennedy, but the autopsy findings clearly establish that the Senator was shot from a weapon held somewhere between less than 1 inch and no more than three inches away. All witnesses describe Sirhan's gun as having been held horizontally in a normal standing position, but the autopsy report describes all bullet tracks in Senator Kennedy's body as angled sharply upward, as though fired from below.

2. An armed security guard with strong anti-Kennedy views admitted that he was standing directly in contact with the Senator to the rear, that he dropped down when the shooting began and that he then pulled his gun. One witness ignored by police claimed he saw the guard fir. The guard's weapon was never checked. Meanwhile, the one person who photographed the assassination, Jamie Scott Enyart, was tackled and arrested at gun point. His camera was seized by police, and his photographs have never been recovered. Los Angeles Police secretly burned 2, 410 assassination-related photographs in a county hospital incinerator long before Sirhan's trial. A Los Angeles jury later awarded Enyart a substantial verdict for the loss of his photographs.

more
http://www.webcom.com/~lpease/collections/assassinations/rfk.htm

[Minstrel Boy]

4. Demonstration of bullet paths:

DeWayne Wolfer, wearing Senator Kennedy's suit coat, demonstrates the bullet paths with the aid of copper rods. Coroner Thomas Noguchi assists. Not shown is the bullet which struck behind Kennedy's right ear. Kennedy was shot at an upward trajectory, point blank range (leaving powder burns), from behind. Sirhan was standing a foot or two directly to Kennedy's front.




http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~dlewis/photo.htm

[kk897]

15. Then there were the photos taken that night that disappeared

I remember seeing an Unsolved Mysteries about this reporter who was a very young man at the time, maybe even a teen, who was there taking pictures that night. He was the only one who had a good camera angle, as he had jumped up on a table in the kitchen as RFK was coming through. In fact, there's a photo of *him* standing on the table that someone else took.

This guy had taken several rolls of film that night, many of which might have shown who was actually shooting, although at the time the guy didn't really consider it might have been someone other than, er, Mr. Sirhan, so he didn't examine them with a forensic eye, so to speak.

Later, when it started to look as if it might not have been Sirhan, he went to look at the photos, which had stored away. I'm vague on the details, but it was something like the police had confiscated them, then promised to return them, then there was some sort of skullduggery, then he got them back minus the important shots, then even those disappeared.

Minstrel Boy, are you familiar with this part of the story?

[Minstrel Boy]

20. Yeah, that's pretty disturbing.

For years the guy was told his photos existed, then when he was led to expect he'd finally have them returned, was told they were destroyed.

Here's an abbreviated version of the story by Lawrence Teeter, taken from a post above:

Meanwhile, the one person who photographed the assassination, Jamie Scott Enyart, was tackled and arrested at gun point. His camera was seized by police, and his photographs have never been recovered. Los Angeles Police secretly burned 2, 410 assassination-related photographs in a county hospital incinerator long before Sirhan's trial. A Los Angeles jury later awarded Enyart a substantial verdict for the loss of his photographs

[kk897]

25. D'oh!

Sorry---my eyeballs skipped right past that part.:dunce:

[Barrett808]

16. I thought it was essentially proven that the cop/guard Caesar did it

Saw an interview with him -- Caesar (sp) had that cat-who-ate-the-bird look, in spades.

[Minstrel Boy]

23. There's a famous photo of Kennedy on the floor of the pantry,

his arm outstretched, a clip-on tie lying by his hand. The tie was Thane Eugene Caesar's; Kennedy pulled it off as he fell.

Caesar was the only one in position to fire the shots that struck Kennedy. He was armed. He lied about owning the make of gun that matched the murder weapon. A witness claimed to see him fire the shots. He worked for a CIA contractor. He was a rightwinger who hated Kennedy.

Thane Eugene Caesar killed Robert Kennedy. And he's still alive and free, and Sirhan is still locked up, physically and mentally, behind bars and hypnotic blocks.

Some fucking world.

[genius]

5. Good. We need to know who really killed him. Sirhan didn't do it.

[ronnykmarshall]

6. Oh come on PEOPLE!!

Can we just chill out with the "warm and fuzzy" and stop refering to him by his FIRST NAME??

SHEESH!! I guess if this were about Oswald we'd be saying "Lee" or "ol' Harve". Or if it were Manson it would be "Chuck"?

I know it's the holiday season, but give me a BREAK!

[Minstrel Boy]

7. first name, last name = same name.

And btw, he's innocent.

[Samurai_Writer]

8. Er....

His last name is also "Sirhan". How do you know they were not calling him by his last name? Perhaps we should just say "S-S"?

[Bridget Burke]

9. A little slow today?

Ever hear of "sarcasm"? In the dictionary, not far from "satire."

[ronnykmarshall]

10. Hey Bridget ...

thank god someone got it!!!

[Brundle_Fly]

22. I got it, didn't think people wouldn't

signed

Brundlefly Brundlefly.

[wicket]

13. LOL!

:D

[ronnykmarshall]

14. WHEW!

Glad another one got it!

[Minstrel Boy]

24. oh...er...

nevermind. :evilgrin:

[geek tragedy]

11. He just made a compelling argument for the death penalty.

This isn't about his innocence--it's about the maggot's desire to preserve his place in history.

[Barrett808]

17. But he almost certainly did not fire the kill shots. n/t

[DARE to HOPE]

19. Hasn't anybody here heard of MK-ULTRA?

Hinckley, Chapman et al. The MO is the same. The confused "killer" in every case. The ones who benefit, again, the same ones.

[Barrett808]

27. The Catcher in the Rye, baby

I thought Conspiracy Theory did a fine job with this material.

[shesemsmom]

21. Cripes

I thought they had already torn it down. I am outta touch

[MrSlayer]

26. The Secret Service wants to preserve a hotel?

Interesting.

[argyl]

29. Let's give this guy whatever he wants. What a dipshit.