Air Travelers May Be Assigned Color Codes

[leQ]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&ncid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20030909/ap_on_re_us/passenger_review

WASHINGTON - The government and the airlines reportedly will phase in a computer system next year to measure the risk of every passenger who boards a flight in the United States by using color codes.

According to the Washington Post, passengers will be assigned one of three codes, based in part on their travel plans, traveling companions and the date the ticket was purchased. Sources say those coded "green" will easily pass through security checkpoints. Others will be coded "yellow" and face additional screening. An estimated 1 to 2 percent who get "red" coding will be barred from boarding and face police questioning. They may be arrested.

Critics fear the new system will be far too intrusive, and that some people will be mistakenly "flagged" and even falsely arrested.

this is about the most insane idea ever to surface from this regime.

[ewagner]

1. How bad is it

when this kind of insanity is taken for granted?


jjjjeeeeeessssshhhhhhh!

[MaineDem]

2. This is bad bad bad

Doesn't this just scare you to death? Not the possibility of someone being a terrorist but the idea of categorizing us. I really think I need to make a donation to the ACLU.

[ozone_man]

8. OK, I think we will put you on the red list.

Gee, I hope I use my air miles before I go on the red list.

[flamingyouth]

10. This admin scares me way more

...than any terrorism threat.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

3. Isn't 1-2% Pretty High?

I'll leave the whole ridiculous color wheel system for others to decimate. But I travel fairly frequently and I've never seen 1 to 2 percent of passengers stopped from boarding and led away in handcuffs. What gives in this brave new world?

[Walt Starr]

4. Bush donator = Green

Registered Republican = Green
Registered Democrat = Yellow
Democratic Activist = Red

I do not trust our government to not do things like this.

[pippin]

7. The Reich all over again

If you recall Hitler required Jews to wear yellow stars. Geez! What are we coming to?

[qb]

5. Yellow Stars of David, Pink Triangles, and other emblems

will be assigned as necessary.

[pink_poodle]

12. Exactly what it makes me think of also. This is terrible! I hope........

they don't start this stuff in Canada and elsewhere.

[Solly Mack]

24. Exactly...

and people (some) will consider it business as usual....

[PartyPooper]

39. I guess my partner and I each get "pink triangles".

Phelps and his ilk will be so pleased.

:evilfrown:

[hlthe2b]

6. Give the rising statistics on Identity Theft.....

and the near impossibility of getting these errors conclusively corrected, this plan should scare the b'jeebins out of EVERYONE!!!!

[gratuitous]

9. I have 100% confidence in this proposal

I am 100% sure it will result in a lot of lawsuits that will cost the airlines and the government a whole boatload of money.

[Philosophy]

11. Will they make us wear colored hats on the plane?

That could be fun.

[JPace]

13. What happend to the orange?

We get yellow, orange and red days....
Now we get assigned colors for flying?

How cute..... maybe next they can put
cute little star tatoos on our foreheads!

[LivingInTheBubble]

14. I wonder if colour codes will be directly related to skin colour. eom.

[sham]

27. yup. the browner the skin, the higher the security risk.

according to the BFEE. unless, of course, you are a member of the bin Laden family.

[Scurrilous]

15. Just like a stoplight!

Green, Yellow, and Red. All the familiar colors. To make it more palatable for the unquestioning masses.

[salin]

16. er...... Not mentioned: HOW PEOPLE ARE RATED...

John Poindexter lives - Total Information Awareness........

[ProfessorGAC]

17. Can I Be Aquamarine?

I would prefer that to green.

If i'm yellow, i'd like a more piquant shade.

I doubt i'll be red, despite the Saddam Hussein mustache, but if so, i'd like it to be claret or burgandy.

Just plain old red, yellow, or green is so boring. I'd fell insulted if everytime i went to the airport i was "merely green".

What a stupid idea, this is! If someone isn't allowed to board the plane, they ALREADY have enough reason to arrest them. They don't need the color coding at all!
The Professor

[finecraft]

18. On the Red List? No problem just mail yourself!!!

http://www.nbc5.com/news/2466054/detail.html?z=dp&dpswid=2265994&dppid=65192

Man Mails Self Home To Parents

DALLAS -- Charles McKinley found a unique way to save a few bucks getting to his parents' house: He crawled into a wooden airplane cargo crate and succeeded in shipping himself from New York to Texas via Fort Wayne.

After hours of traveling, the 25-year-old New York City man pried open the crate with a crowbar Saturday morning. He popped up outside his parents' doorstep in the south Dallas suburb of DeSoto, shook the hand of a shocked delivery man and walked away. The delivery man called DeSoto police, who arrested him on outstanding Texas warrants.

Officials said McKinley's crate was put aboard a pressurized Boeing 727 from Kennedy International Airport to Fort Wayne. The crate was transferred to a second plane bound for Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport. The FBI and the Transportation Security Administration are investigating.

[JPace]

19. This is unbelievable.....

gives me the creeps to think how easy
it would be for a someone to do the
same thing (a terrorist) and blow
the plane up.

finecraft, you should post this as
a topic so more people can see it.

[finecraft]

22. It was a topic in a lounge thread earlier

but only 6 people responded. I don't think that very many people thought like you and I.....if this guy could travel to his parents home in a commercial shipping crate, why couldn't a terrorist strap on some explosives and do the same thing, except blow himself up while the flight is in mid-air? We'll color code passengers, but we won't check commercial cargo.....This is insane!!

[BeHereNow]

31. It AINT about

stopping terrorists!
We know this from the WTC attack.
They were warned and did NOTHING!
This is about putting a system in place that APPEARS
to be about security but is in reality a very efficient
method to start the round ups.

Read "They Thought they Were Free" sometime.
Sorry, can't recall the author's name.

BHN

[JPace]

37. "This is insane"

I hear in Europe planes are equipped with
bomb proof pods that hold the luggage. Of
course we don't have that. I also heard
that airlines could put protection from
hand propelled rockets on each plane for
about one million each. It is all economics,
American businesses factor in human losses
and as long as its cheaper to lose lives than
update with protection they will choose
to do nothing to make us safer.
You are right...it is insane.

[sleipnir]

20. It Begins

This is how they will keep all of us in the country after * gets re-selected in two years. And the best part is once you're on the red list there's no way to get off. You're just screwed for the rest of your life, unless you sneak across the border to Mexico or Canada.

[grasswire]

21. some people...

...can never imagine the possibility that a government will not always be benevolent. The time to forestall repressive measures is before dissent is criminalized.

The massive databases collected on us all are more of a danger than any terrorist.

Osama bin Laden has won.

[BeHereNow]

23. Actually, I would say,

The MAJORITY of "I'm special, I'm an A'murikan" self obsessed people
"can never imagine the possibility that a government
will not always be benevolent."

Which is EXACTLY what the Fascist Cabal has known all along,
known, and counted on.
It is the basic premise as to why they will suceed.

We are so fucked.
I truly believe the hour to get the hell out of here
may have just passed.

BHN

[lebkuchen]

25. If the US were to build a stateside prison called Bergen-Belsen,

the typical American voter still wouldn't make the connection to the Bush administraton.

This is why I keep my passport updated and my body and money overseas.

[BeHereNow]

28. We don't have to build anything!

We have PLENTY of empty military bases here in a'murikkka!
and apparently, they are going to be empty for a LOOONG time,
so lot's of room for all those pesky unemployed and dissident types!
Oh, they've thought of everything, haven't they?
It will be so easy to transport unpatriotic airport patrons to
local cilvilian camps. Halliburton has already profited from
building the army bases, little did the tax-payers know then
that they would get to stay there later! At least they will be fed
which might be a relief to some of the folks who can't find a job...

I repeat: Equal opportunity poverty IS the PLAN!
If you aren't broke, they will get you at the airport
for being an unpatriotic dissenter.

BHN

[lebkuchen]

30. ....a throwback to the DustBowl

If you can't make a livin' in God's chosen country, you must be a commie.

[BeHereNow]

32. "Commie" now equals "Terra'ist"

Same script, different players.
Where are you, BTW?
I am looking very seriously at Ireland.
Am within three generations...

BHN

[Kolesar]

26. They have already been detaining leftist activists, & they missed flights

That started a few months after 9/11.

I am flying in a few weeks. I cannot wait to see if my name is in Ashcroft's database.

[dofus]

29. Would this be any improvement

over passengers who happen to have name same as or similar to people on the "watch list" who currently get stopped every time they try to fly. My local newspaper (Kansas City Star) did an article on this several months back. I seem to recall someone with this problem had a name as common as "David Hughes".

Of four major trips I took this summer, three were by car because I'm no longer willing to put up with the idiocy of air travel if I can avoid it.

[BeHereNow]

33. I HEAR you!

I get so ANGRY in the airport I am afraid I will
go off and get arrested!
The Homeland guards are such idiots and I REALLY
don't have much tolerance for ignorant little tyrant types
in cheap uniforms who think their new found power has added
6 inches to their dicks, or bustlines, whichever the case may be.
BHN

[toopers]

34. Actually . . .

I think this is a step in the right direction. Let's start profiling and looking for the terrorists as opposed to looking for the weapons. While I do not know if this system is the correct system it certainly seems like we are coming to our senses regarding who gets identified as potential suspects.

[Nottingham]

35. This is a way of getting around our security system!

and I bet the terrorist would have green security clearance What the hell our they thinking :bounce:

[damnraddem]

36. Next, they'll issue different colors of Kool Aid for you to drink ...

or you don't get on the plane.

The Jonestown solution, so to speak.

[AndyTiedye]

38. This Isn't About Stopping Terrorists...

...who never travel under their real names anyway.
This is about stopping the political opposition.

They said "only 1 or 2%" will be on the red list.
That could be one out of every 50 Americans.

And they intend to have it in place just as the 2004 campain starts heating up
(or the protests resulting from the 2004 election getting called off).

[JCMach1]

40. I believe they are already doing this

I was detail searched on EVERY step of my trip to the UAE that was within U.S. jurisdiction.