Conspiracy theories on Ohio vote refuse to die

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Conspiracy theories on Ohio vote refuse to die

http://tinyurl.com/3o9qg

It's over, but election still centers on Ohio

Sunday, December 05, 2004

Bill Lubinger
Plain Dealer Reporter

Voters up to here with election overload thought Nov. 2 would finally
end the trashing, bashing and bluster.

They thought wrong.

It's been just over a month since George W. Bush eked out a second
presidential term, but accusations of election fraud and conspiracy
cram e-mail in- baskets and fill Internet "blog ger" pages, air time
on radio talk shows and cable TV and newspaper columns daily.

"I would say it's unprecedented," said Ned Foley, director of the
election law program at Ohio State University. "It's taken on a life
of its own. And the fight is going on even when Kerry said, 'No, it's
not there.' People were just not ready to give up."

And if Ohio was the epicenter of a close, contentious campaign, then
these are the aftershocks.


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[PATRICK]

1. Several mischarcterizations

Aftershocks? Just people outraged at the truth going down smoothly with barely a whimper- again. Just a story the Plain Dealer plainly can't come to grips with.

Apparently they are more respectful of CIA ops supporting the Ukraine spectacle. But "it can't happen here".

Every word of this article is a condescending piece of anti-journalism in service of burying the truth- or one's all wise head- in the sand.

After 911, it took a long time- even for "bloggers" to wrap around the horror that Bushco enabled the tragedy one way or the other. By then you couldn't compete with the myth or the fog or the exploitation. Then too, right away the fearful GOP shouted their memes "total surprise" "no one was responsible(except later to be named scapegoats)a" and the "president is doing a great job". Intimidated, overawed, sickened, the truth was literally bulldozed.

In the garbage heap that is American journalism the bulldozers have quickly scooped up the Nov. 2nd oddity and moved on.

[BeFree]

3. Have to agree, Patrick

Still.... there are some encouraging words in that article. We, the people, have struck a nerve -"unprecented".

The M$M has failed to live up to it's proper resonsibilities. So, we are taking up the slack, and they are beginning to notice. Maybe we will lead them out of the hole they are in? Who else can, but the people?

[zann725]

11. Yes, we the People...and the fact IS they're covering it...

whether they want to or NOT. Eventually we'll convert them. But for now, they HAVE to cover it. And THAT's a beginning...momentum is building. A lot more was on cable news this last week.

[Ardee]

2. Apathy where it counts the most

George W. Bush's Republican allies in Ohio have taken more than a month to certify the results in the state that decided the U.S. presidential election.
Next, they plan to hold off on any recount until after the Electoral College formalizes Bush's election to a second term, making any discoveries of discarded votes or systematic fraud largely an academic exercise.

To read the full story about the echoes of Election 2000 now being heard in Election 2004, go to Consortiumnews.com at http://www.consortiumnews.com .

[Pithy Cherub]

4. What is up with the "blogger" designation in quotes.

It must be the equivalent of "reporter".

Additionally, this very thin reporting gruel did not ven speak about disenfranchisment of its own readers. Might that mean that only select readers of that paper are cared about when it comes to votes being dienfranchised.

This "reporter" needs a few updates on what he has missed by reading his daily press releases from the occupied White House.

[llmart]

9. There are very few excellent.....

reporters nowadays. There are probably some out there that would be good except for the owners of the newspapers won't allow them to write/print what they want to.

I am good friends with an ex-journalist, albeit for a not-so-large and well-known newspaper as the NY Times and Post, who was fired because she refused to change an article to suit what the editor wanted. And the editors are at the mercy of the owners.

Real journalism is dead in this country. That's why they want to control the "internets" - we're a threat to what they call "journalism."

[Pithy Cherub]

12. A wonderful time to now have "bloggers" destroy

the existing business model. The owners are trying to protect revenue streams by staying in the milquetoast zone. Bloggers lay it right out there. As internet sites become more valuable then revenue will dry-up. These are business people so i have no fear that they will be caught flat-footed and unable to innovate because the talent will not be in place to help.

Truly sorry about your friend - truly happy that her integrity is intact, unlike her media employers.

[zapp]

5. Continue the Fight

1) Bloggers are challenging the existing media, and are rendering reporters like... Bill Lubinger obsolete. This pisses them off.

2) John Kerry is not stupid. Does anyone actually think that he would repeat the 'sore loser' mischaracterization that President Gore was given by the 'liberal media'?

3) Fraud is NOT an aftershock. It is a crime. It is a criminal act, designed to assure an outcome that is in jeaopardy.

4) Where are the stories about voter suppression? Im my mind, that is much more Anti-American. Nothing makes me madder than someone trying to keep someone else from doing their patriotic duty!

[lonestarnot]

6. DURS How does this attempt at marginalization make you feel?

:puke: :evilfrown: :thumbsdown: :kick: :headbang: You are unsuccessful in any of your attempts to conceal the facts as they are coming out. It isn't OVER, and we the people are not afraid of eggs on our face. Short and sweet to the cheat, we will DEMONSTRATE the facts, whether you want to hear, deny or marginalize is not the issue..cheating is, democracy is, who the real president is is, how many votes for Kerry were subtracted and added into the Bush column IS. Just clearing up the issues. Thank you. :kick:

[Just Me]

7. There are conspiracies which are not merely theory,...

,...but rather are crimes. I am certain that those who conspired to commit crimes would jump at labelling their conspiracy as merely a theory.

[Straight Shooter]

8. Not a conspiracy. It is collusion for the implementation of an agenda.

"Conspiracy" is the most overused, misunderstood word in the public mind since the election. It is a slur to the skeptics. It is a patronizing, dismissive term for those of us who have good reason to believe the election is tainted.

Another DU'er suggested "collusion" instead. I agree. Let's use that word when writing LTTEs and in conversation. Do not address the word "conspiracy." It is too closely associated with cloak-and-dagger nonsense.

[TripleD]

10. IIRC "conspiracy" is the most prosecuted crime

in the US.