US Military says 7 Marines killed in Iraq's Anbar Province.

[mourningdove92]

nothing else available yet.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

[BattyDem]

1. And the body count continues to rise.

:grr:

How many is that for December (so far)?

[flamingyouth]

2. Fuck this war

:grr:

[NYC]

3. Ch. 4 television news

just said 7 marines killed in separate attacks in province of Anbar.

[bullimiami]

22. is anbar part of the "dum dum dummmmm" triangle of DEATH???

[Fenris]

4. GODDAMMIT!

:grr:

[Brucey]

5. And how many

Iraqis and other brown people are dead????? Does anyone in the media or the administration or the average American care? Why should I care that the invaders are being killed more than I care that the invaded are killed? Why should I care more that combatants are killed than civilians are killed? I cheer when the bad guys are killed.

[quaoar]

6. Here's an AP story

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) — Seven U.S. Marines were killed in two separate incidents in Iraq’s Anbar province, the military said Monday.

The military said the seven died while conducting “security and stabilization operations” in Anbar, a vast region comprising the battleground cities of Fallujah and Ramadi, the military said in a statement.

The statement gave no other details about the deaths, saying the release of more information could place U.S. personnel at risk.

The names of the dead were withheld pending notification of their families.

[Just Me]

7. We are doing our best to prevent this unnecessary suffering.

Just know that we are here.

There is a "beacon" of humanity in spite of these dark times.

:cry:

[cal04]

8. Seven U.S. Marines were killed

Seven U.S. Marines were killed in two separate incidents in Iraq (news - web sites)'s Anbar province, a vast region encompassing the battleground cities of Fallujah and Ramadi, the military said Monday.
It was unknown whether the deaths Sunday were connected to heavy fighting in Fallujah. American warplanes pounded the city with missiles as insurgents fought running battles with coalition forces.

On Sunday, the military reported the death of another U.S. Marine in Anbar. The seven died while conducting "security and stabilization operations" in Anbar, the military said in a statement.

The statement gave no other details about the deaths, saying the release of more information could place U.S. personnel at risk. The names of the dead were withheld pending notification of their families.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041213/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_marines_killed

[TacticalPeek]

15. Bummer. But thanks for the link.

I notice that this Yahoo story has an avg 1.74 rating with 134 votes.

The 101st Fighting Keyboarders are at work, freeping the rating, hoping to minimize public awareness of Bush's Folly. How honorable, how brave of them!

:grr:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

39. I wonder sometimes if Roveco actually has people rate this stuff down.

[yorkiemommie1]

51. they are very quick to rate 'unfavorable' stories down aren' t they?

doing their part to censor the news. lots of little chimpy fingers at work.

[quaoar]

9. The death toll continues to rise

As of Monday, at least 1,296 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

[sonicx]

10. bring me on. nt

[KingChicken]

11. Fighting continues in Fallujah....

When will we learn, this is all these people have left, they will fight to the death.

We are still bombing Fallujah, haven't we killed enough? Have the Americans had their fill on killing the people of Fallujah? Can we please stop this illegal war?

Leave Iraq alone!!! Get out now!!!

[NYC]

16. Also shooting the cats and dogs in Fallujah.

There is a thread on DU about it.

[bluestateguy]

12. This is what the American people voted for

Someday I'm going to stick my finger in the face of a Bush voter who is the parent or spouse of a killed serviceperson in Iraq and say "I told you so".

[pinkpops]

13. Yup - we don't need to change our tactics or beliefs, we just

need to wait for a few people to wise up.

[Zhade]

29. Unfortunately, people will DIE while we wait.

I am ashamed every day that goes by without massive protests. Not that the media would actually cover them, but still.

[proud patriot]

14. :-(

:cry:

[Erika]

17. My 18 year old Marine nephew is in that area

Damn Bush and the Bushies.

[aikido15]

18. So is my 29 year old...

Army officer nephew. I hate Bush...when will it end?

[Erika]

19. It can end

if we back "Hell no, we won't go".

It's time, in my opinion.

[TacticalPeek]

20. And my son, fighting with the Marines in wild, wild West Eye-rack.

Thus, another watch begins of hoping it is other parents who will get the worst news, other kin, other loved ones.

This would have been avoided if President Prancer had faced up to his defeat in 2000, and slithered back under his Texas rock.

[Erika]

21. No, This could have been ended

if the Bushies weren't so scared about their own safety that they voted for a man (I use that term loosely) who chose to sacrifice anyone but them and convince the others it was for their survival. As I've said, the elitists voting for Bush had little concern for kids dying in Iraq. Theirs didn't enlist.

[proud patriot]

28. Hug

:hug: :cry:

[lebkuchen]

23. "War is hell"

That's what a military spouse told me the other day. She's prepared for lots of casualties.

She also said re: the 100,000 Iraqi women and children that had died because of the US invasion, that they would have died anyway under Saddam's regime, so it didn't make any difference. Now we know how the tortures are being justified.

[daleo]

25. That is psychotic reasoning she gave

It is tantamount to saying everyone in the WTC would have died eventually, so what's the big deal?

[Erika]

30. Ask her how Christ's Golden Rule fit in

We attacked a 3rd world with a 5th rate military. You think Christ might have been a little disappointed in our choices? I'm sick of the gung ho radicals who back up behind Bush with the vigor that Hitler groupies backed up behind him. Enough is enough.

What happenned to Christ's Golden Rule? The Bushies are drawing up their cloaks around their necks and running.

[lebkuchen]

37. Daleo and Erika

She was a commander's spouse on top of that, and she expects the other spouses' wives and everyone else on base to feel the same way, or else they should leave the DoD, which she considers to be an organization that SUPPORTS the troops (a back-handed way of saying I don't).

[ze_dscherman]

38. Bullshit argument

"Finally, we reject any attempt, by pro-war governments and others, to minimise the seriousness of deaths so far recorded by comparing them to higher figures, be they of deaths under Saddam's regime, or in other much larger-scale wars. Amnesty International, which criticized and drew attention to the brutality of the Saddam Hussein regime long before the governments which launched the 2003 attack on Iraq, estimated that violent deaths attributable to Saddam's government numbered at most in the hundreds during the years immediately leading up to 2003. Those wishing to make the "more lives ultimately saved" argument will need to make their comparisons with the number of civilians likely to have been killed had Saddam Hussein's reign continued into 2003-2004, not in comparison to the number of deaths for which he was responsible in the 1980s and early 1990s, or to casualty figures during WWII."

From http://www.iraqbodycount.net/press/:

[theHandpuppet]

24. Unfortunately...

If they have reported seven dead you can bet there were a lot of wounded, too, even if those numbers aren't being reported.

Merry Christmas, world, from George W. Bush.

[The_Casual_Observer]

26. In a colonial occupation these kind of losses are to be expected

The natives are eternally restless and reprisal assassinations are commonplace. Expect to lose at least this many every day forever.

[Erika]

31. Freepers are as impressive

as a box of rocks.

[Nordic]

27. here it is on Yahoo, getting freeped down as usual:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041213/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

Good work, freepers! Hide those bodies under the carpet!

[NuttyFluffers]

34. meh, then just email it to your friends.

they can't vote that stuff down.

keep doing it until the cognitive dissonance of Mainstream Media gets to be too much and they turn off the beast, ignore "voted" news pieces, and look for real news.

voting for news is such a stupid idea in the first place... what the hell, is everything teeny-bop Mtv?

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

41. I often wonder if Roveco actually has their hired flying monkeys rate this

stuff down on Yahoo. Beyond me how even shrub supporters could want to rate down these kind of news stories so others won't see.

[quaoar]

32. The number of dead is now 8

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) — Eight U.S. Marines were killed in two separate incidents in Iraq’s restive Anbar province, the military said Monday, a day after American warplanes pounded Fallujah with missiles as insurgents battled coalition forces in the city.

The deaths equaled the highest number of Marines killed in a single day since a car bomb killed eight outside Fallujah on Oct. 30, which was the deadliest attack against the U.S. military in nearly six months.

[cal04]

33. Now they're saying 8. Bring these soldiers home

8 U.S. Marines killed in Iraq's Anbar province
Eight U.S. Marines were killed in action in separate incidents in Iraq's restive Anbar province, a vast region comprising the battleground cities of Fallujah and Ramadi, the military said.

Seven Marines with the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force were killed in two separate incidents Sunday, the military said Monday. Another Marine was reported killed Sunday in Anbar province, which includes the battleground cities of Fallujah and Ramadi, the Marines announced late that day.

The Marines deaths Sunday equaled the highest number of Marines killed in a single day since a car bomb killed eight outside Fallujah on Oct. 30, which was the deadliest attack against the U.S. military in nearly six months.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6692775/


According to the CBS program, some 5,000 American men and women have deserted the military since the war began. They are largely accused of cowardice back home, but they say they are acting out of conscience.
Some say they saw no link between the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and the Iraq war, others lost faith when it became clear there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.Many who remain are clearly becoming disillusioned.Erik Leaver, of the liberal Institute for Policy Studies, said this week's confrontation in Kuwait show many soldiers believe Washington is not being straight with them.

"This is not a well-articulated mission," Leaver said. "More and more we are hearing from military families that their sons or daughters are coming home on leave and saying, `Mom, I don't know what I'm doing over there.' The soldiers on the front lines there understand U.S. policy is not working."

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1102719011849&call_page=TS_World&call_pageid=968332188854&call_pagepath=News/World&pubid=968163964505&StarSource=email&DPL=IvsNDS/7ChAX&tacodalogin=yes

[byronm]

43. thats what i'm seeing now..

just no names released yet.

[neweurope]

35. I sure would like to know what's going on in Fallujah.

And under which circumstances the soldiers actually died and what killed them. They can't allegedly say more because of "security reasons". Well, when they talk of security they don't mean ours or that of the civilian Iraqis or that of the soldiers.

Did they throw not only phosphorus/napalm but also a neutron bomb on Fallujah after all? There was seen this large mushroom cloud. And why don't they let anybody back in, why did they throw the Red Crescent out...

[jmcgowanjm]

44. Here you go, neweurope

1st-Algorem   Dec-12-04 04:56 PM   #67 
   Worse. it's a lie. Anyone heard about Fallujah lately?  jmcgowanjm   Dec-12-04 02:54 PM   #63 
      How many times have we heard that Fallujah is over?  jmcgowanjm   Dec-12-04 03:02 PM   #64 

You can read these posts from the following thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1064532

It's still active.

Today's reports: I can't source this yet.

Latest reports indicate mass US armor has approached to
the north of Falluja in what may be a last effort to save face
and show the world that they can indeed take the small city...
The convoy line streches for 35 km according to eye
witness reports containing tanks, armored vehiccles,
Humvees, and all other heavy
weaponry..

Fallujah: Mujahideen Liberate Al-Askari, Industrial Districts; US Resorts To Chemicals
Dec 13, 2004
By Omar Al-Faris, JUS

Mujahideen continued to tighten their grip on the
besieged American troops in various locations around
Fallujah over the weekend. The desperate occupying
force leadership resorted to chemical weapons again
after Mujahideen have launched 95 rockets at
American positions after liberating the Al-Askari and
Industrial districts.

Fallujah lll about to begin

http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_internal.php?article=100899&list=/home.php&

[jmcgowanjm]

45. communiqué(assume translation islammemo) 32USKIA 28WIA 2POW

Bloody Fighting Ends In Liberating The Al-Askari,
Industrial Neighborhoods

The Fallujah Mujahideen Council has issued a
military communiqué Saturday morning announcing
the complete liberation of Al-Askari neighborhood which is
now under total control of Mujahideen. The
industrial neighborhood has also fallen to the
Mujahideen.

In addition to human casualties, the Mujahideen have
also destroyed 11 Abrams tanks, shot down an Apache, and
hit an F-16. The fighting was intense and lasted from
21:15 Friday night until Saturday. Twenty eight Mujahideen
were martyred, including a 14 years old boy who was
fighting along side of his father who also was
martyred.

The communiqué stressed that Mujahideen now exert
total control over these neighborhood
According to eye witnesses, Fallujah skies were filled with
a
red gas, a yellow gas, and a white gas, all at the same
time.
But Allah has sent in gusty winds from the south, in
the
direction of the American troops.

Mujahideen Level The Biggest Mosque In Fallujah To The Ground

http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_internal.php?article=100899&list=/home.php&

[neweurope]

47. Thanks jmcgowanjm

Of course one can only believe half of what jihadunspun says, also, but it's going on in Fallujah, that much is clear.

:cry:

[jmcgowanjm]

49. If only 1/2 is true

then the USMilitary is collapsing.

Remember the WWll movies where the
German POW's are fed garbage while the
Wehrmacht itself is having to scrounge for food/water?

Company fed rotten food to Abu Ghraib prisoners, sparking rebellion

http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=1304

US struggling to airlift fuel and water to encircled troops
By: Washington Post

US bases all over Iraq are effectively under siege, unable to
get water, fuel, or ammunition to operate. Airlifting the cargo
that should be transported by land is obviously a
desperate measure

"I would kid you if I said I'm not worried about
sustainment," Buchanan(Lt. Gen. Walter E. Buchanan III,
the senior commander of U.S. aircraft in the Persian Gulf
region) said in an interview. "I can surge, but
I have to develop a system that I can sustain this with
because we don't know how long this is going to go
on."



http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A58252-2004Dec11?language=printer

[jmcgowanjm]

52. Reply To Those Who Question Our Reports From Mafkarat al-Islam

I would like now to ask you a question and appeal to the faith
in you heart. If the Vietnamese who are Buddhist and do not
have a God, or religion, or history, or power, were able to
cost America 58000 lives, why would you doubt the ability of
your Muslim brothers in Iraq to inflict the kind of casualty
reported by us first and by mainstream media later?

Let me tell you brother, the allied forces planned and
prepared very well for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and
any possible surprise are well-taken care of. That was why
the Reuter correspondent was killed by the Americans when
he uncovered the American mass graves in Anbar. He was
not the only one killed to burry one of the war secrets with
him, and he will not be the last one
either.

Finally brother, I wish you the best in everything you do.
Please do not forget to pray for us and all your brothers,
and please forgive me for the delay in replying to your letter.
And forgive me brother if my reply appears harsh. Please
feel free to write back with any comment.

Director, Mafkarat al-Islam
Soyan Al-Hagiri

http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_internal.php?article=100898&list=/home.php&

[leftchick]

36. 1293 DEAD! omg.....

Military Fatalities: By Time Period News
36 in 13 days! This is so sad.... :(

http://icasualties.org/oif/

Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
3 439 14 14 467 2.78 168
2 715 27 58 800 1.89 424
1 139 33 0 172 4 43
Total 1293 74 72 1439 2.27 635

To View Period Details Click The Period Number
Time Periods Defined
Latest Fatality: Dec 12, 2004


An Incomplete List of Contractors Killed or Missing in Iraq
Military Fatalities: By Month
Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
12-2004 36 0 0 36 2.77 13
11-2004 136 4 0 140 4.67 30

[Ganja Ninja]

40. Where's that armor at Rummy you useless piece of garbage! n/t

[Danmel]

42. Burying the lead

I just LOVE how on the Yahoo the lead is "13 killed in Baghdad suicide bombing.
They don't mention the dead US marines till later in the article. Why? Cause they know most Americans don't give a rat's ass about the dead Iraqis and won't read the article and learn another 7 soldiers have been killed in this disaster of a war. Hide the deaths, hide the casualties, hide the truth, hide from questioners. These sorry excuses for people make me sick.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041213/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

[ckramer]

46. Bush = War = death

"Bring it on!"

[4dsc]

48. So where are the protest's??

I am wondering we don't protest in the street's about this sad situation??

[SodoffBush]

50. When military families march in the streets in protest

I will join them.

Currently, they seem to be perfectly happy with the status quo. They love the idea of being a "hero" after death. Why should I rain on their parade?