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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:28 PM
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rumsfeld being heckled!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:29 PM
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1. at National Press Club luncheon
Several women in the balcony!

"Rumsfeld, you're fired!"

"How many kids have you killed today!"
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:30 PM
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3. got to be Medea!
or Code Pink!!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:31 PM
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12. One thing I'm sure of, without even seeing them
It's NOT LaRouche supporters. They only heckle Democrats.

:eyes:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:35 PM
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25. She'd better stay away from small airplanes
She and a few others got him good in a Senate hearing before the war when they stood up holding signs asking to let the weapons inspectors finish their job in Iraq.

It was GREAT. Made a lot of civilized noise, held up their previously rolled up signs, then quietly left with the guards.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:01 PM
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65. I voted for that woman
:bounce: She'll be at sunday's event in Petalluma .
That's where I got to meet her last year .
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:30 PM
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4. Where will they be able to hide?
Soon all brodcasts will be taped from an empty room.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:36 PM
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28. Seriously!
Welcome to DU Timefortruth!!! :hi:


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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:31 PM
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8. Oooooh boy --- bet it's those folks from CodePink.
gotta love those patriots.
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ameriphile Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:36 PM
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26. Of course, under the Patriot Act, they're considered traitors... n/t

n/t
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:31 PM
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9. it went on for a couple of minutes
A few people in the audience finally yelled "Go home!"

But there was just a lot of stunned silence, as one woman in particular blistered Rummy.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:48 PM
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59. As in
A woman's place is in the home

As in put on your burka
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:32 PM
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14. no cable here -
please tell how many there were, how long it lasted, and what the war-criminal did in reaction....

(I've got to get my cable turned back on!!!!)
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:30 PM
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2. HOW MANY SOLDIERS HAVE YOU KILLED TODAY!!
Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a large sign BLOODY HANDS and 2 young women calling Rummy a murderer!!!! wooooooooooooooooo


it was well worth watching!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:38 PM
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34. They were LOUD. I LOVED it and it seemed to last so long.
"Your's fired, Rumsfeld."
"How many kids have you killed today?"
The HUGE sign with blood on their hands.

It was great!

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Maine Mary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:30 PM
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5. OMG I just saw it!
Unbeleivable!
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:30 PM
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6. OMFG!!!!!
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 12:32 PM by newsguyatl
that was great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




and we got it ALLLLLL live baby!!

fox stayed with shot of rumsfeld... cnn cut to the protestor!!


woohoo, that ROCKED!!!!!!!
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:31 PM
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7. Rummy: "911 was a blessing in disguise"
What a fucking worm.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:32 PM
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15. rummy wasn't impressed
The sign of a psychopath.
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:01 PM
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68. He and bu$h are so much like Hitler.
I would not be suprised if concentration camps for liberals and anti-bu$h supporters are set up if he is elected for real in 2004.
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TioDiego Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:33 PM
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18. Are you kidding me? Did he really say that?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:39 PM
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39. color me shocked as well
did he really fucking have the goddam fucking febrile nerve to say such a thing!?!?!?!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 02:08 PM
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75. I was gonna say the heckling made my day
until I almost fell out of my chair at that "blessing in disguise" comment.

What gall. ::Speechless&pissed::
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Sick of Bullshit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 08:39 PM
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98. After this quote
are there any naysayers who still think it was Osama all by his lonesome in his cave who was behind the attacks?
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:52 PM
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62. DID HE REALLY SAY THAT!!??
Dude, you are sooooooooooo fired.
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:01 PM
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66. He says 9-11 is a bleesing in disguise, Wolfiwitz said the UN bombing
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 01:03 PM by ignatius
was an opportunity...these are really delusional madmen whose paranoia and sicko worldview is going to get us all killed.

A blessing in disguise will be the day they cart you away to the asylum,asshole.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 02:09 PM
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76. these guys are completely batshit
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:23 PM
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85. TRANSCRIPT of the comment in question
I also posted this in the GD thread asking the same question.

The quote came shortly after the protestors, and should give us a whole lot to chew over...

Per my Tivo:

Interestingly, about a month or two after September 11, I was in Oman, meeting with the Sultan of Oman in a tent, south of his country, he was was visiting his constituents.

He said, you know, as terrible as September 11th was, it may very well be that it was a blessing in disguise. I said, how so? And he said it was terrible, the loss of 3,000 human beings, but if it will awake the world, if it will cause us to act, if it will cause people to stop people from teaching (that) it is a good thing to kill innocent men, women and children. If that were to happen before we had a September 11, where not 3,000 people were killed, but 30,000, or 300,000, through a biological attack or whatever, he said, then it would have served a useful purpose.

That is, in a very important sense, a task we have, a responsibility we have to do everything we can as people to see that we don't have an event of that magnitude. The global war is not a war we fight so we can declare victory and go home, really. The world was changed on September 11, and if we're going to be able to live as free people and say what we want and go where we wish and send our children off to school knowing they'll be able to come home, not be terrorized, not alter the way we live our lives, then we have to recognize that we have to change, that we have to deal with these new threats in different ways."
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:40 PM
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87. FALSE ALARM: Rummy quotes someone else as saying it
Interestingly, about a month or two after September 11, I was in Oman, meeting with the Sultan of Oman in a tent, south of his country, he was was visiting his constituents.

He said, you know, as terrible as September 11th was, it may very well be that it was a blessing in disguise. I said, how so? And he said...if it will awake the world, if it will cause us to act, if it will cause people to stop people from teaching (that)it is a good thing to kill innocent men, women and children...


Of course, he should be fired for not saying something other than "How so?"


rocknation

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teknomanzer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 08:02 PM
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96. Whatever...
Since when to Sultans have constituents? Who voted for him? I think Rummy is making up stories.
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Sick of Bullshit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 08:45 PM
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99. Making up stories
In other words, LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:25 PM
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86. No. No asylum. PRISON. Following conviction by a war crimes tribunal.
An asylum he could probably win release from. All he'd have to do is sit around in robe and slippers watching TV. That's no punishment!
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Patriot_Spear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:06 PM
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70. REALLY- Did he SAY that?!
Really... That is way over the top.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:18 PM
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73. well, it's the new Perl Harbour that PNAC said it needed
so they could go get Saddam.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:07 PM
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80. More like...
The Reichstag fire...

:mad:
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 05:41 PM
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93. He was quoting somebody
He is still a worm, but he was quoting somebody. Before we start acting like a bunch of Rush Limbaughs and Ann Coulters here, he was quoting somebody. Rumsfeld is still a worm, he is even a fucking worm for that matter, but he was quoting sombody else. It was a blessing because it woke the world up before 30K or 300K died in a terrorist attack.

I am not defending Rumsfeld here, but let us not act like the thing we hate. In case that is not understood, Donald Rumsfeld is a waste of sperm. Attributing that quote to him is wrong.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:31 PM
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10. And he is pissed.......
"those people are liberated"!

Interesting..."Rumsfield, you're fired!"

It is a good thing to kill 3,000 innocent people if it avoids more (unprovable, of course) lives lost....
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:35 PM
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24. Yeah, um, they're liberated all right
God this country is finally waking up! Thanks for posting this Grasswire - it gave me goosebumps. I am loving these women!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you. Does it seem as if this administration won't be able to go anywhere anymore? Ashcroft yesterday - Rumsfled today - Cheney uninvited to 9/11 ceremony. Cancers nobody wants around! God Rummy deserved this. Liberated my ass.

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CheshireCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:40 PM
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42. Say what???
"Cheney uninvited to 9/11 ceremony"

When did this happen? Link, anyone?
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:46 PM
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56. Read it over in General Discussion I believe!
Check it out!
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:31 PM
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He just called 9/11 a "good thing"
If it would teach people not to teach hate and kill each other.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:39 PM
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38. He didn't say that... did he?
Sick. He should be asked how the survivors feel about his sentiment.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:44 PM
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50. so we turned right around and began killing people
look in the mirror rumplebrain! :eyes:
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:19 PM
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83. Now be honest -- did he REALLY say that?
If so -- his resignation should be on chimpy's desk by 5PM today -- this is intolerable.

Let me see -- John Kerry gets torched for joking that we need regime change in DC, not Iraq -- but Rummy can say 9/11 was actually a good thing?

Even an utter bastard like Bush should demand his immediate resignation.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:31 PM
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11. Right on!
I am with these folks in spirit!

:kick:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:32 PM
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13. I just turned it on but don't hear anything...
Did it just stop or what?
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Maine Mary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:33 PM
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16. The two women were "escorted" away
.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:35 PM
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23. REALLY? Did they show that and everything?
? If so, about how old were they? Were they Code Pink?
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:36 PM
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29. Was there any reaction from Rummy? Or did he just ignore it?
?
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:36 PM
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30. ...And we'll never hear from them again
(At least that's what this administration would hope)
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 02:10 PM
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77. escorted to visit Jimmy Hoffa
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:33 PM
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17. 90 countries have joined the coalition against terror...largest ever
Semantically challenged liar.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:40 PM
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41. Biden: "contributing an average 400 troops per nation. Give me a break"
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:01 PM
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67. More fuzzy math
Didn't they learn anything after the "average" tax cut B.S. was shown for the propaganda it was?

What are the real numbers? How many countries in the coalition, and what are their contributions (doctors, aid, letter of support, etc.)?

How many COMBAT troops, and what's the average outside of the U.K., Australia (think they're gone now), Poland, Spain -- the only ones I'm aware of with more than a handful of troops.

Also, are they averaging troops by dividing the total by ALL countries in the coalition, or by those THAT ARE SENDING PEOPLE? If the former, even countries writing a letter of support are getting credit for sending troops -- sheer obfuscation, I would say, to make it look as if lots of countries are willing to sacrifice their own citizens for our stupid war.
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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:08 PM
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71. wolfowitz did the 90 figure too
at the Committee meeting I watched yesterday on CSPAN.

This appears to be the new propagada figure.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:33 PM
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19. we are
in the beginning of all out civil warfare
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:40 PM
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40. Hope not, but we are not going to return to 2002
Look out Bushlite.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:34 PM
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20. God Bless Those Girls!
Somebody has to stand up for the troops! Rumsfeld is a MURDERER!
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Marymarg Donating Member (773 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:35 PM
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21. Made my day!
The vocal young woman deserves a medal for her courage. She was great. She was able to shout at Rumsfeld for about a minute before some goons manhandled her away--but she was still shouting!! :)
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:35 PM
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22. 29 members of coalition in Iraq?
Whadda liar.......
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:36 PM
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27. Here are her words:
There's also more discussion in GD, here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=312476#312492

Here's what I posted in GD:

A woman on the balcony just screamed:

"Rumsfeld, you're FIRED!!!!"

"Your foreign policy is based on lies. The war in Iraq is unjust, illegal and the occupation is immoral! There are US Soldiers dying in Iraq every day! Bring the troops home now! Tell us when the troops are coming home!

Hey Rumsfeld, what do you say! How many children did you kill today! Hey Rumsfeld, what do you say! How many soldiers did you kill today!"

There were two women, holding a banner that read "BLOODY HANDS."

Damn, watching that just gave me chills. The tide is turning, my friends.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:38 PM
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33. Was there even a change in Rummy's expression?
Did he do anything, or did he just keep reading his redundant speech?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:42 PM
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45. What was amazing was that the cameras all turned to the women!
Since so many microphones were present in the National Press Club room, her words were clearly heard by all.

Didn't get to see Rummy's expression, but I gotta tell you, it was a chilling moment.

I'd be more than happy to start up a collection to bail these gals out of jail, although I have a feeling they won't need any help at all. :-)
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:01 PM
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79. Does Anybody Know Where They Took Them?
I hope that they are still in a place where the words "bail out of jail" still have meaning.

It wouldn't be too surprising if they wound up in Gitmo.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:39 PM
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36. OMG!!!
Reading this just gave me MAJOR chills - THRILLING!!! Thank you for your post!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is all I can say!

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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:42 PM
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46. Rummy is getting agitated
It's been 4 mos. It feels like 4 yrs.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:37 PM
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31. Rummy Rummy Rummy I got love in my tummy..
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quispquake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:09 PM
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72. That brings up images...
...that I REALLY don't need to be thinking about...ugghh...

pp23
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:37 PM
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32. Rummy just said all the Generals have said we don’t need more
troops. He FIRED the generals who disagreed with him or the sensible ones just quit first.

Rummy said that government without checks can abuse power, a topic about which he is very familiar!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:39 PM
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37. Q&A up now
First question: What mistakes were made in Iraq?

He's blaming all the trouble on Saddam.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:41 PM
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44. Stalinist society under Hussein.
Prick...we devastated them in 1991 and prevented them from rebuilding. Who gave them the tools for WMD? I believe we have pics of you shaking hands and giving him those tools you f'ing hypocrite.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 01:17 AM
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104. keep on, yo!
plaster that rummy/saddam picture everywhere
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:39 PM
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35. The natives are definitely getting restless
Look at the protests of Ashcroft and Bush wherever they go and a renewed call to demonstrate against the war. I'm afraid this is only going to get worse before it gets better. This government is at war with its own people.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:43 PM
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47. Hussein let out 115,000 criminals on the Iraqi people?
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 12:43 PM by Old and In the Way
Jesus, there was an invasion, who'd have guarded them?
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:19 PM
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74. Surely The Vast Majority Of These 115k Prisoners Who Were Freed...
were imprisoned unjustly from the beginning. After all Saddam was a brutal dictator prone to locking up children and whole families. We should be happy that they are free.;-)

Jay
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 02:38 PM
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78. That was a UN condition
The UN demanded that Iraq release all political prisoners....and so they did. Rummy probably just forgot. With his record for honesty,..........<gack>


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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:43 PM
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49. Heck, Cheney got disinvited from the 9/11 ceremony.
Can you imagine what would have happened had the mayor of NYC not done that?
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:40 PM
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43. now it's BUSH'S
turn...

when will HE be heckled??

and how will HE handle it?
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:45 PM
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52. God I hope some women are left to nail his ass
Oh please - the natives are definitely getting restless. God Bless these Women - I wish I were with them!

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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:43 PM
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48. First question, what mistakes were made in the war?
Soft ball if there were ever were one. Rummy is going on about what a great war it has been.

Now Rummy complaining about the criminals being released from jail in Iraq before the US came in. I thought they were liberated?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:45 PM
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53. The prisoners were released last fall and they KNEW it
and I knew they'd be trouble for our troops. What a moronic imbecile. He should be fired!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:20 PM
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102. The death of logic
So the PNACers now believe they will let fly the concept that liberated prisoners are responsible for the death of Americans?

How convenient.

Usually they test these lies at a lower level.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:44 PM
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51. Avoiding the oil revenue question......
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 12:47 PM by Old and In the Way
no comment, country has great deal of potential.

Governments can do really little for the people...let big business control that oil.....that must be the case in Iraq.


Boy, isn't this going to be interesting.....the basis of a real debate.

Cost of War? I don't know....30 years of Stalinist control...bullshit, they had the most progressive society in the ME until we declared DS1 on them.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:46 PM
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55. MSNBC just replayed the heckling
They cut away from coverage, replayed the heckling, and then chuckled about how coolly Rummy went on, unfazed.
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Sick of Bullshit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 08:51 PM
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100. He went on unfazed
because he has no freepin' conscience
:argh:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:46 PM
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54. Now THAT'S a 1st Amendment Zone, Rove and Rumsferatu!
...you anti-American POS's. (Something in my eye...)

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:46 PM
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57. Rummy better get used to it. So should the rest of this misadministration.
Looking more like Nam every day.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:47 PM
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58. Someone ask the connection between Iraq 9/11 and terrorism?
They are asking these “How great are you and the President in the management of this noble war?”

Someone please ask a real question.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:48 PM
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60. CNN showed heckling replay too
...as they cut away.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:50 PM
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61. Was this one of the "perps?"
Yaaaaaaaay, it's MEDEA BENJAMIN!



DID THIS HAPPEN?


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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:56 PM
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63. Absolutely smashing!
Needless to say that these ladies are gonna put a charge in us.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:58 PM
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64. WMD: "we know where the WMD are (3/30)"
"Sometimes I overstate the context" Inspectors concluded that the process wasn't working? Man, is he mistating the truth.

He is skating, big time...the process is going on....proceeding in an orderly way....it was unlikely we find something by going out and looking! Interrogation process is how they will find them.

Do you believe they will be found....he does! "we will find the evidence of PROGRAMS...."

Liar, that's not why we invaded.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:03 PM
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69. Bulletproof evidence that SH was linked to 9/11
He never said it...prove it...

Suggestion that he resign? Serves at the favor of the pResident.

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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:14 PM
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81. When I heard the heckling
Rumsfeld was talking about 9/11, terrorism, 9/11, a different world now....9/11 ...blah blah blah.....I was so hoping the heckler would say, "Stop exploiting 9/11 for your own agenda!'....this would have had a great impact on his continuing his remarks along in that vien.

I tell you, I'm getting really jaded over the invoking of 9/11 to further their agenda. It has become this administraion's carte blanche to getting whatever the hell it wants!
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makeanoise Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:16 PM
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82. Guess they are going to raise the terrorist color code now
to red! LOL
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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:20 PM
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84. KICK = great, great , great

:kick:
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disgruntella Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 03:49 PM
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88. video online
http://www.connectlive.com/npc/

(I posted this on 2 other threads but then they dropped in GD)

Note: I haven't seen the video, my system is choking on RealPlayer
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:02 PM
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89. Thanks for the video link.
It's intense. They make their presence known near the first, after the female blowhard makes you think you're going to go insane trying to block out her servile bowing and scraping, just as he gets up to begin his horrendous lying.

Some man bellows "sit down," and "go home." They got their licks in, however.

Hope to hear more about this on tonight's news.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:19 PM
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90. The protestors are getting MAJOR media coverage!!!
Wolf Blitzer just showed the entire clip of the protestors on CNN, and even included them being dragged away.

They also included Rumsfeld's response about how free speech now exists in Iraq, thanks to the Administration's efforts.

How nice to know that free speech exists in Iraq, but not in the United States. Anyone feel safer?
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 05:44 PM
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95. They have free speech there now, God bless the USA
They also no longer have prisons were people are executed. I am glad he is against the death penalty in foreign countries.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:28 PM
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91. This is just too cool!


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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 04:32 PM
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92. What surprises me
(after watching the video of the protest) was how cold-blooded Rummy really is.

He KNOWS that his neocon friends hijacked the 9/11 experience for their own agenda, and it didn't bother him at all. he stayed perfectly on message.
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veganwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 05:44 PM
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94. where can we find this??
are there any links yet??
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 08:38 PM
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97. ON CPAN-2 AGAIN RIGHT NOW
Enjoy
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:28 PM
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101. exciting stuff.
Henry Kissinger once said that Rumsfeld "is the coldest man I have ever known". I believe the man is absolutely devoid of emotions. And he even writes poetry. Interesting.

I know that he also owns 6 houses somewhere in Texas. Before the war in Iraq, war protesters plastered one of his homes with baby clothes soaked in red paint to demonstrated that children were about to die.

I read that he was extremely unnerved that people found out where his houses were located, and that they had trespassed.

VERY STRANGE GUY
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WheresWaldo Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 12:11 AM
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103. WATCH AT CSPAN, UNDER LATEST VIDEO
its about 12 minutes into the CSPAN feed.

lets get it into the Most Watched video collumn.
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