Lieberman Says NO

[Brundle_Fly]

developing, just saw it on NewsNight

will edit for link.

KOS has it.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/14/221149/11

[LiberalinNC]

1. Good!

He's needed in the Senate!

[joeybee12]

10. Bad! This is a good way to get him out of the Senate! Which is good!

He's awful, and even though this will give the Repukes an added seat (the Governor of CT is a Repuke and will appoint a Repuke), that person won't last after the two years until the seat is up for re-election. Short-term is bad since we lose a seat in the Senate; lon-termis great because we get rid of Holy Joe LIE-berman for good!

[NewJeffCT]

18. We have some popular R congresspeople here

Nancy Johnson or Chris Shays as a 2 year incumbent in Connecticut would be tough for any Democrat to beat.

[Pirate Smile]

24. I bet if Chris Shays got appointed he could possibly win in 2006.

We can't count on anything for sure.

[yardwork]

25. I don't want to lose a D seat in the senate now

Also, Lieberman would get zero support from bushco in that thankless job of trying to handle a mixed bunch of bureaucracies hurled together in the aftermath of 9/11, with FBI and CIA agents abandoning ship in droves, and nobody trusting or talking with each other.

If there was another attack, bushco would blame it all on the Democrat. No thanks. I'm relieved that he said no.

[Straight Shooter]

27. I agree with all your reasons

Especially the next LIHOP attack being blamed on a Democrat presiding over HS. We would never recover.

[yardwork]

30. And it would be LIHOP!

If we had a Democratic administration in place, then I'd feel confident that the Democrats could handle whatever happened.

But stick a token Democrat in charge of Homeland Security with those criminals in the WH? No way.

[Just Me]

34. I don't think any "democrat" should consider ANY national security

or homeland security or "intelligence" appointment, at this time.

The Bush agenda is way too wacko and, I agree with you, "yardwork", scapegoatdom is to be avoided at all costs.

Besides, I'm sure there are plenty of suckers out there to take on the position. What'll be real fun is watching to see who is appointed the next NID.

[WildClarySage]

50. Let them clean up their own damn mess.

[burrowowl]

53. Lieberman is reasonably

good on the environment.
Keep him in the Senate. A Repuke woould be good for nothing but pure evil.

[leftynyc]

68. Exactly - that's the only reason * wants a Dem in that job

So they get the blame if something happens. So transparent.

[calimary]

84. Do we see bush inviting any republi-CONS into his cabinet from

the Senate or House? I haven't been keeping close track lately, but I sure don't remember any. It seems like he's always "reaching out" to Democrats - a VERY transparent move that's really designed to deplete our numbers in yet another way. He's not doing us any favors by trying to pull shit like this. Just more lipstick on more pigs.

[Gyre]

71. And you think we have a chance of gaining a majority again

exactly why? If we don't have a majority then what the hell's the difference?

IMO, "Joltin' Joe" is an eastern Zell Miller waiting for the "right" time to come out of the closet.

Gyre

[AndyTiedye]

48. The Short Term IS The Long Term - Think of the Supreme Court!

If they succeed in packing the Supreme Court with Talibornagains, it's all over.

[SteveG]

52. The Problem is

that the Governor of his state is Repuke, and would appoint a Repuke to replace him. Most of the time Liberman will vote with the Dem's. We cannot afford to be purists.... we need him on our side of the aisle.

[calimary]

83. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. I despise "Holy Joe" too, but

we CANNOT afford to lose a single "D" in the Senate. Not one. Not even if it's him. Period. I'd just rather not see us take the risk.

[Angelique]

58. I agree. GOOD!

[maddezmom]

2. also says No to US Ambassador to UN

Joe's popular with * :shrug:

[Pirate Smile]

5. It is an easy way for the Repubs to pick up a Repub seat.

[maddezmom]

9. good for Joe

glad he turned * down, TWICE!!! :)

[Brundle_Fly]

6. you are fast maddesmom,

but the fly beat your thread by 14 seconds. ;)

[shuffnew]

20. Hmm ... why?

could be because he is a GOP in disguise and reportedly a strong DLC supporter of the corporate elite. What better person could * try to get that is more GOP than not and then claim to be a good "bipartisan" effort that was rejected. Just another B.S.!

[ribrepin]

51. Get a clue

Doesn't matter what the Democrats do. GOP will claim they are partisan.

Good for Joe--he saw through this bullshit. Course you'd have to be deaf, blind and dumb not to realize a republican governor would appoint a republican.

Get used to it--they are gonna claim the Democrats are not reaching across the aisle. It's worked real well so far. The Democrats should stop playing ball. Maybe this is a start. Let the asshole appoint Zell. Nobody believes he's a democrat.

[bowens43]

75. Anyone I vote for had better damn well be partisan!!

NO Democrat should assist this gang of criminals and thugs with anything.

[Geek_Girl]

3. Good For Liberman

Even if he is Neo con in democratic clothing at least he is not a complete sell out.

[Francine Frensky]

73. Now, who is Mr. Third-choice going to be???

That's going to be kind of embarrassing, being third choice and the whole world knowing it.

[Goldeneye]

4. That is awesome...

they offered it to him and he shot em' down. Bush isn't having much luck is he...first kerik, now this.

[LiberalinNC]

8. NO!! Thankfully!

[Avalux]

7. Never thought I'd say this -

thank you Joe - I could kiss you! We can't lose another Senator (even if you are a bit too hawkish).

[Brundle_Fly]

12. yeah

I thought for sure Liberman was going, this is awesome news.

[Erika]

11. Way to go Lieberman!

Let the Bush nominate Zell, the daffy one.

[DemoTex]

13. Good news.

Holy Joe makes the right decision. Bless you Joe. Or, as Al Franken would say, Oy!

[BayCityProgressive]

14. This is great news

if Lieberman had jumped ship, Bush would be able to say he is "bipartisan"and a "uniter" and it would put more pressure on senate Dems to follow his policies.

[Brundle_Fly]

16. Bingo

Now he has zero cred to claim bipartisan support. Lieberman really snubbed him. I have a little respect for that guy all of a sudden.

He'll have to pull a puke out of some office

[Miami Liberal]

15. Thanks Joe

Can't believe I just said that.

[BayCityProgressive]

17. I think Lieberman

had this planned all along. He wanted Bush to offer so he could say NO and make it a news story. That way he could get the best of both worlds...Bush would be hurt in the media by the snub and it would make Lieberman score some points with the Dem base AND make him look really respectable to have a president from the opposing party offer you a job. Joe is always in it for himself, but this time it played very nicely for us.

[seito]

19. Good for him n/t

[meisje]

21. Joe has no-mentum

[maddezmom]

22. LOL

:)

[TahitiNut]

23. Notice that the coWard doesn't offer it to 'R' Senators in 'D' states

The Smirking Fascist isn't about to tap a Reichpublican Senator from a state with a Democrat as Governor ... or even with a Reichpublican Governor, which would lower the seniority of the Senator and run the risk of more easily losing to a 'D' candidate at the next election.

The political hypocrisy thicker than could be cut with a knife.

[Dulcinea]

62. Too bad he won't offer Santorum the post.

He would be a great candidate for that job, plus it would get that douchebag out of the Senate.

Maybe Saxby Chambliss? He's enough of a wingnut for this administration, plus GA has a Repub governor.

[acmavm]

26. I'm grateful as well. But maybe, just maybe, he didn't want to go down

in history as being part of this criminal, fraudulent, sticky fingered administration.

He's been in government a long time. Why go out that way? History will prove to be very very hard on any of the collaborators, panderers, and whores (i.e., the Zell Millers, all of the repuke in the House and Senate as well as a few dems, and the entire mainstream media).

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

29. Maybe he didn't want to be John McCain

[wildwww2]

63. McCain would be a good choice. A worthless sham of a Senator.

To fill a worthless sham of a position. Homeland Security is an unorganized always to be under-funded farce. McCain would be perfect at the helm of a dry docked ship. That is Homeland Security.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[dweller]

44. so, just who DOES want to be

sloppy seconds choice after Mr. Integrity-himself-Kerik?

anyone?

Bueller?

Beezlebub?


dp

[ckramer]

28. Lieberman is a closet republican

and he can't afford to be called traitor of domocrats. So the decision is understandable.

[Kralizec]

31. Pardon me for my ignorance, but what did he say 'NO' to? n/t

[Brundle_Fly]

40. the job Kerik

was supposed to get.

[wildwww2]

64. The head blowjob giver of Homeland Security. I`m glad Vice President

Lieberman did not fall for Bu$h`s carrot up the ass.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[Alisa]

32. Good for Joe - and I mean it!

[salin]

33. Good News... and appologies to Sen Lieberman

for having doubts.

[rawstory]

35. Linky?

thanks!

[Chicago Democrat]

36. Yay! We need you Joe!

On our team...

you putz, at least you are a loyal non-zell Democrat

[Tace]

37. I Haven't Seen Anyone Mention On These Lieberman Threads...

Why the hell would he work for the crook that stole the White House out from under him in 2000? It's like somebody steals your car, and you agree to be his driver. OK, not perfect analogy, but you get my point.

[daleo]

56. Steals your car, but then says he'll hire you to drive cab

The cab is, of course, your car.

[StaggerLee]

69. Nice analogy

:)

[Francine Frensky]

72. or if someone steals your baby and asks you to be the nanny

hmmm. interesting story line.

[CountAllVotes]

38. thank you Joe Lieberman! Thank you!!!!

Thank god he said NO 2X! Fool me once ... :evilgrin:

[wakemewhenitsover]

39. Shows how far Bush will go to pretend there's anything kosher...

...about this administration.

[cal04]

41. Sources: Lieberman rejects White House overtures

Democratic Sen. Joe Lieberman has twice in recent days said "no" when approached about the possibility of a major job in the second Bush administration, CNN has learned.

The Cabinet vacancy at the Department of Homeland Security was the subject of the latest overture, according to congressional and other government sources. Those sources said the earlier overture was to see whether Lieberman might be interested in becoming the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.White House officials declined comment, saying they do not discuss personnel matters.

The Connecticut senator was traveling and not immediately available for comment. His spokesman said the senator had not received a formal job offer and was not seeking a new job, but the spokesman said he could not comment on whether the senator has spoken to administration officials or emissaries about the possibility of joining the Republican administration.

Lieberman, who was former Vice President Al Gore's running mate in 2000, authored the legislation that created the Department of Homeland Security and co-sponsored the resolution giving President Bush the authority to go to war with Iraq.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/14/whitehouse.lieberman/index.html

[Isere]

42. Yow!

I'm delighted! Not only because we have no Senate seats to spare and not only because Lieberman is 100% pro-choice and excellent on the environment. No, it is just too unaccustomed to hear DUers say something positive about Joe!
Hey, live long enough and the impossible happens!

[wakemewhenitsover]

43. K-erik, L-ieberman...

...If he picks M-iller or M-cCain next, at least there'll be some indication that Bush knows his alphabet.

[Edgewater_Joe]

45. Props, Mr. Lieberman

You are a Democrat after all -- and not that dumb, either.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

46. Dumbyass will say

"I tried to run a bipartisan administration! But the Democrats just didn't want to work with us!"

[imenja]

57. let's see Bush pick a senator from a state with a Dem governor

Right. They'd love to pick off Lieberman and get another seat in the Senate. "Bipartisan" only if it serves their narrow political interests.

[dweller]

47. So, just to keep this story straight

Lieberman (and others) originally proposes DHS, *moron shoots it down, then sets it up himself.
Ridge is appointed, and quits after one (two?) year after his orange crayon runs out.

Kerik (subject of Nightline as i write this) is a scumbag nominated and found to be lacking in about a nano-second by a lexis search on his credentials, so the choice goes back to one of the real originators of the dept, AND HE DOESN'T WANT IT EITHER??

feeling really protected now, Homies?

well, at least we got Bin Ladin, right?
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/12/14/wosama14.xml

DOH!
dp

[genieroze]

49. Why? I thought he agreed with *.

Maybe he doesn't like the way this election smelled either. Knows * has no legit mandate.

[Senator Lamb]

54. good job joe

you were tempted but remained strong.

[Sleepless In NY]

55. Thank you Joe!

Also thanks for keeping the 9/11 commision going when Bush & Hasert tried to deep six it because it might have an effect on the then upcoming election. You did good then and you did good now. Thanks Joe!

[JohnKleeb]

59. Good on his part

[Andromeda]

60. Hope he doesn't change his mind.

That would be one less Senate seat for the Dems.

[0007]

67. He won't!

[Endangered Specie]

61. Well Im glad to see that he still has some sense.

[Massachusetts]

65. MOMENTUM

Joe has some sack left.....:thumbsup:

[texpatriot2004]

66. Glad to hear that, Thank you Sen. Lieberman n/t

[StaggerLee]

70. This is very good news

Thank you Joe!

[Vidar]

74. Good for Lieberman.

[bunkerbuster1]

76. Thanks, Joe. You're a mensch.

for the balony and mayo on white bread crowd:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mensch

[NashVegas]

77. Possible Thread-Lock Coming

Sorry y'all, but Kos is not an acceptable LBN source (blog). Can someone please find an official news report on this anywhere?

[maddezmom]

78. here's one: Sources: Lieberman rejects White House overtures

CNN) -- Democratic Sen. Joe Lieberman has twice in recent days said "no" when approached about the possibility of a major job in the second Bush administration, CNN has learned.

The Cabinet vacancy at the Department of Homeland Security was the subject of the latest overture, according to congressional and other government sources. Those sources said the earlier overture was to see whether Lieberman might be interested in becoming the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.

White House officials declined comment, saying they do not discuss personnel matters.

The Connecticut senator was traveling and not immediately available for comment. His spokesman said the senator had not received a formal job offer and was not seeking a new job, but the spokesman said he could not comment on whether the senator has spoken to administration officials or emissaries about the possibility of joining the Republican administration.



http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/14/whitehouse.lieberman/index.html

[NashVegas]

79. Thanks

..

[Sterling]

80. Damn, so close yet so far.

How can we convince him to get the fuck out of our party?

[twenty2strings]

81. Good bye Mr. Whipple!

Please don't squeeze the republicans.

[Canuckistanian]

82. Tsk, tsk. What's Sean Hannity going to think?

They're best buds, you know, Hannity and Lieberman.

[4_Legs_Good]

85. Way to go Joe!

I'm not a big fan, but this makes me happy.

Thanks!

david