Loudoun Boy's Defiance Draws Police Response ((Gestapo Watch))

[Tinoire]

Loudoun Boy's Defiance Draws Police Response

'Violent' Words Alleged

By Rosalind S. Helderman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 15, 2004; Page B01

When the two plainclothes Loudoun County sheriff's investigators showed up on her Leesburg doorstep, Pamela Albaugh got nervous. But when they told her why they were there, she got angry: A complaint had been filed alleging that her 11-year old son had made "anti-American and violent" statements in school.

She was aware of an incident at Belmont Ridge Middle School in which her son, Yishai Asido, was assigned to write a letter to U.S. Marines and responded, according to his teacher, by saying, "I wish all Americans were dead and that American soldiers should die." Yishai and Albaugh deny that the boy wished his countrymen dead.

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Albaugh described her son as a rambunctious student who has long opposed armies of any kind. He refused the Veterans Day assignment and told his teacher that the Marines "might as well die, as much as I care." Whatever was said, the words had been the source of anguished conferences, phone calls and, ultimately, a day of in-school suspension.

Albaugh thought the whole thing was resolved in school until Investigators Robert LeBlanc and Kelly Poland showed up last week. What followed, she said, was two hours of polite but intense and personal questioning.

They asked how she felt about 9/11 and the military. They asked whether she knows any foreigners who have trouble with American policy. They mentioned a German friend who had been staying with the family and asked whether the friend sympathized with the Taliban. They also inquired whether she might be teaching her children "anti-American values," she said.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64726-2004Dec14.html

[burrowowl]

1. DAMN!

McCarthy HUAC here again and worse ......
DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!

[UL_Approved]

2. Yep. Dark days of Commie crap again

We got the military-industrial complex. We got the fascist takeover of the U.S. after WWII. I hope that this gets spread around this country far and wide. I hope the ACLU nails them to the wall.

[laheina]

3. Since when is this worthy of police investigation?!

We no longer live in a free society when you have to muzzle children and pray to god that they don't say anything stupid, because the gestapo might show up at the door.

[Just Me]

4. Are you kidding? We live in a "no tolerance" society.

When did you miss that?

In third grade, my son got mad at his teacher and said, "I could just kill you".

He was suspended for a week.

[laheina]

8. I didn't miss it, I just think it's stupid.

But then again, when I was in college, I dared to state that I don't think that minors should be tried as adults. All shit broke loose. I had people coming out of their chairs, screaming at me.

People need to think with their brains, not with their need for retribution.

[tngledwebb]

16. A tad different because of the personal threat. Third grade too?

But welcome to The Fourth Reich, children of America. You may not have learned about the history of fascism or anything else in school, but you'll have the real life experience of it to tell your grandchildren.

[Zorra]

5. Things are getting out of hand. Too many really stupid

people in positions of authority.

[bobthedrummer]

14. It starts at the top.

Then works it's way throughout the system.

[havocmom]

19. Stupid people in positions of authority is the payoff for the wing nuts

People here keep wondering why people continue to vote against their own economic interests. Well, there is part of it: the control freaks wanna kiss up to the Man so they can get some position where they can push others around and fulfill that hunger to pretend they have power too.

The neocons have been courting the more base impulses of their weak base, feeding them lines to make them feel validated about their worst flaws and holding out the promise that 'we need to control the others' as the carrot. The prospect of some little crumb of authority (= power/strength in their minds) is more appealing than actually thinking and protecting the nation/themselves from the Corporatists.

Minor players will walk hard on their neighbors when they get their tin badges. Been done before, happening again.

[JDPriestly]

6. Commie Crap

Actually, this sounds like the kind of interrogations the Communists did in Eastern Europe. The un-American activity was on the part of the sheriff's investigators.

[LeftyMom]

7. I'm glad we homeschool!

How the fuck are kids supposed to learn when they they have to worry about what will happen to thier family if they question the war with Eurasia or criticize the minions of the ministry of peace?

[HuffleClaw]

9. CRIME: being a teen

geeze, what a crock. "inquired whether she might be teaching her children "anti-American values" ?? HOW anyone could ask such a question with a straight face is beyond me. what really astounds me is that she DIDN'T slam the door in their faces. must have been in shock.

[Cronus Protagonist]

10. Would you have answered their questions?

I wouldn't. They would have been standing at my front door for a few minutes and that would be it. I always say that inviting law enforcement into your home is never a good thing unless you're actively being attacked.

Anything, any tiny little slip up on the family's part could have resulted in jail or deportation. They were lucky.




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[teryang]

11. Letting government people into your home without

...a court order is the stupidest thing you could do.

What you teach your children is none of the governments business.

The thought police are here.

[Pepperbelly]

12. She told have told them to f*ck themselves and get off my lawn! nt

[xchrom]

13. stop that!

i can't afford a new key board!:)

[BiggJawn]

15. Cops probably thought "What kind of name is 'Yishai Asido', anyway?"

"Bet he's one of them kids that becomes a Moose-lum and wants to go to Afghany-stan to become one a'them Tally-ban guys...Better go check it out, we ain't having none a'that shit in OUR town!"

The most important thing to remember when the Gestapo shows up at your door is "Do you gentlemen have a Warrant? No? Then have a good day, I'm going to close my door now."

The ACLU has a pamphlet in pdf form that lists your Rights when detained by the SS. Get it at www.aclu.org

[HCeline69]

18. Warrant?

What a quaint term. Part of the "Old Freedom".

[BiggJawn]

21. Yeah, I know....

How STUPID of me! I forgot..."9-11 changed EVERYTHING!"
:-(

[demnan]

17. The teacher should have stopped to examine

why this student had these feelings. It could be political expression, or he could just have a desire to shock. I think the entire class would have learned something if they had examined the reasons for this child's remarks, which are out of the ordinary, but not criminal to express.

[Walt Starr]

20. Chilling

Freedom is dead.

[makhno]

22. You know what's sad

Why are these kids required to write letters to the front? Is this the Soviet Union or Loudon Fucking County, USA?

[Forkboy]

23. Hey fuckers! Come knock on my door for what I say!

Shitstains :puke: