Bush Looking at Cutting Domestic Spending

[rodeodance]

"domestic" spending is already squeexed raw cause of all the war spending.




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Bush Looking at Cutting Domestic Spending


2 hours, 27 minutes ago


By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The White House is telling federal agencies to expect lean budgets next year, with congressional aides and lobbyists saying President Bush (news - web sites) appears ready to propose freezing or even slightly cutting overall domestic spending.


Targeted would be all annually approved programs except for defense and domestic security. Excluding those two would leave a part of the budget the administration estimates will total $388 billion for the fiscal year that began Oct. 1. Also excluded are automatically made payments like Social Security (news - web sites) and interest on the federal debt. ......

.....Excluding homeland security and emergencies like hurricanes, domestic spending has grown by 27 percent since Bush took office in 2001.


"I really do believe that this White House gets it," said Rep. Mike Pence (news, bio, voting record), R-Ind., a leading House conservative. ....

[Moderator]

1. Could you edit and put your quoted material in proper order?

Thanks

[rodeodance]

7. done --all lined up now

[bluestateguy]

2. I unapologetically, unabashedly embrce Great Society/New Deal liberalism

Government taxes, government spends. That's what government does. I refuse to take so called "deficit hawks" seriously.

I did not vote for this president or his party at any time in the last four years. I should be exempted from the effects of any spending cuts.

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. A convenient way to nuke the new deal once and for all.

bush has never fooled anybody who pays attention and has even an ounce of common sense.

[Skink]

4. Bye Bye IRS

Hello untold wealth.

[Erika]

5. Money for warmongering - None for domestic programs

We all knew this was coming with Bush pandering to the most wealthy and the corporate globalists.

Bushco's plan to turn this country into a military banana republic is marching on. His supporters should be proud. NOT!

[William Bloode]

13. Ha!

Thats the 1st thing that popped into my head hwen i read it. Unlimited funds to kill brown people, nothing for the overall welfare of us as a nation.

Rather kill a buncha brown folks than say, feed the hungry, improve schools, help the elderly with medication, help us all with medical costs.

Killing brown people must be awfull fun.

[Ready2Snap]

6. History Lesson

In case you weren't there, go read about the second Reagan admin. '84-'88.
The national debt was enormous(over $4 trillion). Between servicing the debt, tax cuts and the military build up Reagan hornswoggled through Congress there was simply no discretionary spending monies available in the budget, not to mention having to cut most social programs to the bone. That's what Pence means by "This White House gets it."

Many Sens. and Reps. threw up their hands in disgust and declined re-election over the mess Reagan had made of the federal budget. Reagan had some of his earlier tax cuts repealed things were so F'ed up.
Bush 1 took the fall for it. The economy tanked and he was forced to raise taxes. And not even winning Gulf War 1 and the fall of the USSR saved his ass in '92.

God help whoever has to follow Bush 2, provided he doesn't declare himself "President For Life" if/when there is another major terrorist attack.

[rodeodance]

8. good Hx lesson--but I am thinking Bush may fall before he leaves??

just a gut feeling!!!!!

[PapaJoe]

23. Good guts,

I agree, but the Post Turtle may need a push!

[bvar22]

9. Another part of the History Lesson:

This is the EXACT ROADMAP of Economic Policy that led to the downfall of the Soviet Union...I mean EXACT!

1)The ultra Wealthy & Politically Connected skimming the cream from the top with NO ACCOUNTABILITY,

2) Eliminating Social Programs and Education

3) Channeling Everything into The War Machine

4) Involvement in Foreign Quagmires sucking whatever lifeblood left in the system.


NOTE: The ultra wealthy in Russia did quite well during the collapse. The other 99% suffered, and are still suffering.

[struggle4progress]

22. Same folks, same plan. eom

[napi21]

10. I think he should cut domestic spending...on museums, statues,

and all the other pork barrel crap that's always tacked onto every bill that passes!

Of course that's not what he intends to cut!

I'm sure this is an attempt to fulfill the agenda Rush always talks about..."cut taxes until there's no money left to fund the socialist programs. Starve them out of existance, and let the churches and charities handle it all."

[Erika]

12. The land of Hugo, Dickens, Zola

I wonder if Bushies, freepers, etc., have ever read these authors.

I can see it happenning here since W took over. Less people insured, more people in poverty, reduction of annual earnings,etc.

Their governments were busy building world empires and let their own peoples needs go to hell.

[SharonAnn]

31. You know * hasn't read any of those authors. He doesn't read.

[jwirr]

41. I suggest we send him a Christmas

present: audio editions of those items. There is no excuse for ignorance when there are so many audio books available through the federal library system.

[LizW]

11. Didn't we hear that a draft of this went around

a while back? And didn't the White House lie and say that it didn't mean anything, that it was just preliminary numbers? As I recall, it cut stuff like Head Start to the bone.

[annabanana]

14. Hows about cutting that SPENDTHRIFT tax giveaway??...n/t

[Kimber Scott]

15. Bush's economic plan boils down to one thing - Bankrupt the government.

He's doing a superb job, so far.

[The Night Owl]

27. That was the plan all along...

The Bush administration has waited a long time for their chance to, as Grover Norquist put it, "drown the government in the bathtub."

The plan is now in motion. Welcome to North Korea.

[Quetzal]

16. How about we get rid of corporate welfare

like gas and oil subsidies - why not add farm subsidies to that list too.

[davekriss]

17. Moloch! Nightmare of Moloch!

Where the law of the majority ceases to be acknowledged, there
government ends; the law of the strongest takes its place, and
life and property are his who can take them.
---Thomas Jefferson, to Annapolis Citizens, 1809


Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
--- President Dwight D. Eisenhower, April 16, 1953


I'm the commander... see, I don't need to explain. I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the president. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation.
--- GW Bush, Bob Woodward's BUSH AT WAR


You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.
--- Malcolm X


Demand Change Now!

[Barkley]

18. I bet Bush won't cut domestic spending on prisons - nt

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

19. Also in breaking news the sun rose this morning.

[Sugarbleus]

20. Dupe

[Sugarbleus]

21. How utterly compassionate!!

Scotty, Beam me up!!

[LittleClarkie]

24. What about VA spending

would that be included in the cuts, do you think?

[zann725]

25. Let's all ask for J.K. for Christmas! Someone SOON has to intervene...

n/t

[LittleClarkie]

26. In their world, all you do to support the troops is put a yellow ribbon on

the SUV. There ya go, yer done. Nevermind actually supporting them with protection to make sure they stay alive, or health care when they get home. Nah, the ribbon's enough. What do they want, a handout.

Jokes on them twenty years from now when a few of those human time bombs go off.

I'll ask for him. Whether I get him or not will be another matter. But one thing's for sure. He knows what it means to support the veterans.

[atreides1]

28. VA is still Domestic Spending

There was an article that had a list of the proposed cuts for Fiscal 2006, and the VA budget was cut by half.

[spunky]

29. I shouldn't be surprised, I don't know why I am

The CNN article said housing would be one of the programs cut. Maybe they're hoping all the newly homeless people will join the army to make up for the decreases in National Gaurd recruiting?

Then at least then when they get home from from the war and wind-up homeless Vets, they'll be used to it. *sighs* *shakes head*

[kostya]

30. Why is this LBN? We knew this in '99!! :)

[CityDem]

32. Look out blue states

I am sure that AWOL will stick to the good folks in the blue states who rejected his BS.

[SammyWinstonJack]

33. Permanent tax cuts for the rich and they'll gladly take them.

The Greedy Chimp is really making me despise the wealthy, I make no distinction between Dem or repub in this case. They make no sacrifices while keeping most of their money in their pockets. They don't pay for bu$hco's slaughter in Iraq and their kids don't fight there either. How many of them will refuse their tax cuts for the sake of saving some social programs? I bet not one. Buying a third vacation home in Aspen or a luxury yacht is so much more important. The greed in this Country is disgusting!

[American Tragedy]

36. So you hate FDR, JFK, Kerry, Dean, & other Democratic leaders?

[tandot]

34. WWJD? Rob the needy and poor and give it to the filthy rich!!!

According to Republicans, Jesus would totally approve of taking money away from the needy, sick, and poor and give it all the filthy rich and wealthy corporations. Jesus would approve of starting a complete UNNECESSARY war, killing tens of thousands of innocent children and their families.

These people make me sick. Robbing the poor, ignoring the sick and needy, killing tens of thousands of people, and destroying the environment...all in the name of God.

I hope they all burn in hell.

[kineneb]

40. Well,no,

'cause they would consider him a terrorist, just as the Roman Empire did and throw him in Gitmo...then conveniently loose the key.

[tandot]

43. Not quite a terrorist...but they would label Jesus a liberal hippie.

They might find a way to charge liberals with "aiding the enemy" and transport us all to Gitmo...never to be seen again...

Hitler would be so proud of them...

[jwirr]

42. You are absolutely right.

To these people jesus was named Herbert Spencer and he was a social darwinist who believed that the "unfit" should be eliminated from the gene pool. bushie is just following his orders. The followers of this jesus/spencer are nothing but slime collecting on the church and molding it into the image of satan.

[GOPBasher]

35. Well, when he takes the axe to every program there is,

I hope the red staters will still be happy knowing that Bob and Jim will not allowed to be gay.

[Just Me]

37. Define "domestic", Mr. pResident. Detail YOUR spending, too!!!

BEEEEE HONEST(NOT EVER - YOU FACTUALLY-EVIDENCED SELF-SERVING "momma's special boy")!!!

Maybe, someday,...you will be a frog in the hands of a heartless bully or an American soldier thrown into a horror he never invited,...or a hard-working individual who could no longer support family,...or an innocent child who never threatened you and died,...or an advocate for peace who was imprisoned,...or a disabled person who was cut-off,...or a teacher who gave up,...

Mr. pResident,....you are a TAKER who usurps and profits off every valuable GIVER,...arentcha'?

You make me venomous against the likes of you.

[leesa]

38. But I'll bet Mike Pence voted for the fool.

What a surprise...cut all the social safety nets to get people dying more quickly, either from illness or in one of his ongoing wars.

Do Republicans get it yet?

[mtnester]

39. You know the rule of household physics says if you sqeeze something

hard enough, it is gonna:

pop
explode
burst