Time (magazine) names President Bush Person of the Year

[Cooley Hurd]

:grr:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/19/time.moy.bush.reut/index.html

NEW YORK (Reuters) -- U.S. President George W. Bush's bold, uncompromising leadership and his clear-cut election victory made him Time magazine's Person of the Year for 2004, its managing editor said Sunday.

Time chose Bush "for sticking to his guns (literally and figuratively), for reshaping the rules of politics to fit his 10-gallon-hat leadership style and for persuading a majority of voters this time around that he deserved to be in the White House for another four years," Jim Kelly wrote in the magazine.

Bush was also Time's choice to appear on the cover in 2000 after winning the presidential election despite losing the popular vote.

His father, President George H. W. Bush, was named "Man of the Year" in 1990 for what Time called his mastery of foreign policy and his wavering domestic record.

Last year the magazine picked "The American Soldier."
</snip>

:wtf: "...bold, uncompromising leadership and his clear-cut election victory????" In what alternative dimension is this TRUE????

I fucking HATE Time Magazine!

[leftchick]

1. serial murderer as 'man of the year'? how sick!

how about Jeffrey Dahmer as well? :puke:

[Rush1184]

27. Man of the Year is not a title given to honor a persons achivements...

It is given to the person who dominated news.

[EFerrari]

47. So, it's fixed because they own the news.

[zann725]

73. Sure does! Colin Powell now works at Time Warner.

And one wonders how he won?! :think:

[leftchick]

49. you know that and I know that...

but most ameriKans do not!

[Cha]

90. Well what took them so long? nm

[ailsagirl]

145. Looks like they have devoted half the issue to him

They're certainly not disparaging him from what I've looked at

[Chimpanzee]

28. I hope the cover looks like this:

[zann725]

74. LOL! But for optimum 'effect,' he needs that new 'little' Military jacket

n/t

[tavalon]

154. Now would be a great time to print out a lot of flyers with this cover

and plaster them all over.

[iamjoy]

37. They Had Hitler Once....

they thought about making it Osama bin Laden in 2001, but since most people think MOTY is an honor, they made it (I think) Guiliani instead.

[leftchick]

48. UBL and bush* in the same company...

now that is appropriate!

[zann725]

71. Stalin was also on the cover one year. What I want to know is...

how could Shrub win MOY when he wasn't even on the short list? That's right...same way he won Ohio! Forgot.

All I can say is OMG...and LOL simultaneously! "Clear victory"??, my butt! This is the print media version of those Clear Channel "Our Leader" billboards. Question is: On the cover, will he be wearin' his cute 'little' military jacket? And darlin', cut the 'meds' (which of course you're not taking)...your face is lookin' soooo puffy!

[Dancing_Dave]

129. So what did their Hitler Man of the Year Cover look like?

That would have been a great inspiration for their design staff to come up with a totally appropriate cover for Bush!
:headbang:

[KansDem]

198. And the Ayatollah Khomeini in 1980...

Hmmm?

Hitler? Ayatollah Khomeini?

Do we see a pattern here?

On edit: also Joseph Stalin twice in 1939 and 1942...
http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/archive/stories/

[dennis4868]

41. Time gave.....

Hitler person of the year back in the 1940s.....

[alfredo]

77. they also honored

Ayatullah Khomeini and Nikita Khrushchev It is not about whether the person is a force for good or evil, it is whether he dominated the attention of the people.

[Cha]

91. This is good to know if anyone mentions

this to me about bush being "chimp of the year". I thought it was an "honor", too!

[JohnOneillsMemory]

116. Get out your Sharpies! A Hitler-moustache on every cover you see!

I'm serious. EVERYBODY DO THIS ACROSS THE COUNTRY! That's called 'Proper-ganda' to fight the propaganda we live in.

I walked into a supermarket that had *'s face on Newsweek magazine at every checkout stand after Nov 2.

Without even hesitating I took out my black magic marker and put an Adolph moustache on every single cover and no one said a word to me.

Then I did my shopping as if nothing unusual had happened.

Have the courage to maybe buy a few magazines if you get hassled.
It's worth the truth-in-advertising moment offered to us by Time.

[leftchick]

119. hee hee! I LOVE this idea!

I am putting my sharpie in my purse NOW!

[proud patriot]

136. I'm so down with this

:evilgrin:

[Zynx]

2. It's difficult to make the case that he wasn't.

Bear in mind that Hitler, Stalin and Mao have been Person of the Year too.

[blue northern]

9. You beat me to the punch

fitting company for * - all are totalitarians who left a wake of death.

[maddezmom]

25. and OBL...

[LiberalinNC]

3. WTF???? Sickening!

A clear cut victory???? Last time I looked Ohio was still being recounted! Makes me sick, there are so many other more well deserved "human" beings out there who deserves this award! I WILL NEVER buy another Time mag again!

[tavalon]

155. This isn't the first time the MSM has lied

just the most recent. A state controlled media is the bedrock of a fascist regime and we like to do everything better than everyone else, even fascism.

I've decided to change the acronym MSM to MSMW.

[NewHampshireDem]

4. Hooray for us ...

Let us all fall to our knees and worship. Don't forget to buy gifts for family and friends to put under the GW tree on January 20th ... and make sure you buy them at Wal-Mart.

[Cha]

93. I like this one better..

And this is what I mean about cancelling my subscription to time..

"clear cut victory" is fucking hogwash! And they know it.

[0007]

94. What a nation!



[IHeart1993]

128. I saw one of those on a trip this weekend.

It's scary.

[tavalon]

156. I can't advocate vandalism because that would be "bad"

but if I saw one of these on the side of the road, well, I don't know if I could resist adding "fascists" to that sign.

[bowens43]

5. Clear cut election victory?!?!?!?!?!

[tavalon]

157. They meant "clear cut election fraud"

it was a typo.

[lonewolf0507]

6. Like most of the United States

Laziness wins out. It was easy to pick him for this award. However if Time magazine would have done a little work, they should have picked the U.S. Military or even the 9-11 commission. This is not a surprise, this is a lazy minded country. Greed, lying and cheater are always celebrated.

[rooboy]

7. It's important to remember that the Person of the Year...

is NOT about choosing the most admired or 'worthy' person. It's about the person who has had the greatest impact on world events. And that person is undoubtedly the snivelling little shit they chose.

[Cooley Hurd]

11. If only Time reasoned it that way...

...but his :eyes:"bold leadership":eyes: seems to be the reason Time bestowed the title to him.

Now, if they said "for being the biggest fuckup and mass murderer of the 21st century," then I'd agree...

Unfortunately, this only perpetuates the myth of the man...

[jellybelly]

15. You are right

it isn't about choosing a saint, it's choosing the most influential person. If Kerry had won, he'd be person of the year and the repubs would've boycotted and destroyed Time magazine. We are much better than they are.

[tavalon]

158. Because we aren't going to do that?

And who is that "we" you are talking about Kimo Sabe?

[jellybelly]

171. huh?

I thought liberals would understand (not agree with) the decision of choosing Bush. The stupid repugs would've cried 'liberal media' if Kerry was choosen. Aren't we a bit smarter than they are? Maybe not..sorry.

[truth2power]

24. You're right, Rooboy. Everyone here

had already said it by the time I got here.

When I read the OP, I thought, "Man of the Year?" WTF? ...Oh, wait. Hitler was Man of the Year, too. Well, that explains it."

As far as the "bold, uncompromising leadership" thing, maybe Time got a call from Kkkarl. :shrug:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

214. Then why wasn't it Rove instead? (nt)

[NNN0LHI]

8. Adolf Hitler was named TIME's Man of the Year in 1938

Why do you hate Time?

Don

[BiggJawn]

30. That's true, the person who changes things the most...

...Does not mean it had to be for the better....

Some of their reasons for picking the Chimp sounded pretty convoluted, though...

[underpants]

36. 1927-1999 List of Time's Person of the Year (Stalin and Nixon twice)

http://history1900s.about.com/library/weekly/aa050400a.htm

[Bush was AWOL]

82. Some real scumbags on their list

Stalin twice, Hitler, Nixon, Reagan and Ken Starr:puke:

[Name removed]

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[PassingFair]

84. Because Time sucks, literally...

I remember when the Clenis was the news of the week. For some reason, we had a free subscription to Time. EVERY week there was a cover story on the blowjob. EVERY week!
We began to call the magazine "Blow-Job Weekly". We had to get rid of it before the kids came home from school.
Then came the happy day when their "Special Edition: ALL BLOW-JOB SPECIAL" came out. Really.
That was it for Time magazine. I'll stick with Newsweek, thankyou.

[Supersedeas]

100. George Hitler strikes again....Time is all over it.

[davhill]

10. It is the Person who Changed the World for Good or Evil

Bush clearly falls in the latter category.

[ikojo]

12. Those of you who subscribe to Time

Magazine should cancel your subscription IMMEDIATELY and when asked why say that a magazine that chooses BUSH as person of the year is no better than Pravda during the Soviet Times.

There is no free press in the US...it is as controlled as that in any so called totalitarian country.

[AngryOldDem]

A bonus to cancelling

When I cancelled Time about three years ago, I was INUNDATED with calls asking me why I did not renew my subscription and would I please reconsider?

Those who cancel Time over this outrageous choice can give it an earful. Go for it.

[SoCalDemGrrl]

110. I'm cancelling 1st thing Mon morning and giving them an earful.

[AngryOldDem]

118. Be as blunt as possible

Use the proverbial 2x4. I had to tell them point-blank that I did not like their magazine; I could get my weekly news roundup with half the verbiage in Newsweek; and nothing they could say, do, or promise would ever get me to resubscribe in this lifetime. They finally quit calling.

I think this Person of the Year choice would be a great way to let Time know -- by letters to the editor, cancelled subscriptions, what-have-you -- that this "mandate" of his is bullshit.

I have disagreed with many of Time's choices in the past, but accepted them as mere difference of opinion. This year, though, time is spotlighting the wrong man. If we have to recognize this administration, Karl Rove should be the Person of the Year. Why honor the puppet when you could honor the puppeteer?

But really, at the end of the day, who cares what Time thinks, other than Time itself?

[magellan]

150. I cancelled the instant I saw this on the news today

The number's 1-800-843-TIME. You can cancel using their automated system, but if you want to tell someone why you're cancelling just don't press any buttons when you're given options. You then get connected to a live customer service rep. They took my comments down.

[barb162]

153. I was just about to subscribe to Time; not now

[ornotna]

200. Done

And I'm getting $14.51 back. I think I'll use that to get a subscription to Mother Jones.

[indepat]

13. Hell, he's the man of the new Amerikan century

[BiggJawn]

32. He's the FIRST "Project for the New Amurikan Century"

Can't wait to se what PNAC's got brewing up for us next...

With P-NAC, paddy whack,
poke us with a bone,
Donny Rumsfeld keeps his Home....

[suegeo]

60. Time magazine was Henry Luce's baby

And Luce was the Yale Alum. that named the last century "The American Century."

And now we have Time naming the stooge of the Project for the New American Century (Bush the lesser) as their man of the year, for his "clear cut election victory."

The powers that be really, (really!) don't like us, the members of the great unwashed. And they apparently have not liked us for quite some time.

A clear cut victory, my ass.

On Edit:
http://www.time-planner.com/planner/about_time/bios/founders/henry_luce.html

"Luce often spoke of the countless nights he spent at Camp Jackson in South Carolina with Hadden discussing journalism and the need for a new kind of newspaper or magazine to help educate a misinformed populace."

AND


“In an age when people are bombarded by information, we are, ironically, becoming less informed. TIME is dedicated to keeping busy men and women well informed by making information more readily accessible.”


--Founder and Managing Editor Henry Luce, 1923

What a sick joke our "free press" has become.

[The Backlash Cometh]

14. Well, that's one copy of Time I won't be buying. LOL!

[tsuki]

16. That's it. Time is now my pick for the "Pulp Fiction" award of

the Decade.

[Botany]

17. Tool of the Year

Bold uncompromisingly following the orders of his neo con handlers. Google
PNAC and look at the 1998 letter to Clinton asking for this insane war. Sure he
"loves" our troops is that why he sent them into a no win war where they are
nothing more than targets.

As for winning the election....... I live in Ohio I saw election fraud and theft first hand.

:bounce:


http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/121604Z.shtml

:kick:

[For PaisAn]

19. Welcome to DU

Hi Botany
:hi:

[Botany]

31. Thank you!

PaisAn,

Good to know I am not the only nut job in the world.

:tinfoilhat:

[For PaisAn]

45. DU is a refuge

for thinking people.

[Johnny Noshoes]

126. Never fear

you ARE NOT alone :hi:

[annabanana]

132. Dear Dear Botany!

You have found your way home to the "other" 49% of America. (And just about 100% of the rest of the WORLD) You are not a nut job.. The folks who think we still have a "free and independent press" are the ones who are missing what's REALLY going on.

Welcome!

[tavalon]

160. By virtue of you being here

you are not one of the nut jobs. You are part of the reality based community. Unfortunately, reality sucks these days. Sorry.

[Selteri]

151. Welcome from a fellow Ohio Theft Victim

Support group meetings are on the halls opposite of the AA meetings because we're not quitters. ;)

[susu369]

18. Please help me understand

I've read this sentence at least ten times and still don't get it:

"President George H. W. Bush, was named "Man of the Year" in 1990 for what Time called his mastery of foreign policy and his wavering domestic record."

You get an award for wavering domestic record? :scratchinghead:

Who cares what Time Magazine does?

[Tight_rope]

211. Don't read that magazine.

[gmoney]

20. DU the poll: "Do you agree with the selection..."

http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/2004/story.html

left hand column, down a little from the top

[Dangerman]

44. Done, but...

69% agree to this selction.

THOSE BASTARDS!

[CO Liberal]

46. Current Results

Do you agree with TIME's choice for Person of the Year?

Yes - 65.5%

No - 34.5%

Total Votes Cast: 649

* * * * *

Keep them "NO" votes comin', folks!!!!!

[Overseas]

56. Done. 37.7 v. 62 now. NT

[RebelOne]

57. Done.

[zann725]

106. Done. 60/40...favoring Shrub.

It's like a very 'dark' comedy...and getting darker by the minute. Does anyone else feel like they're living in a 'Twilight Zone' episode...only they can't change the channel when it's getting scarey?

Help us all!

[Johnny Noshoes]

130. I've

been feeling like that for 4 years - at least. Its like we fell asleep and woke up in some bizarro world living nightmare. You talk to so many people and they don't see the insanity. Just keep repeating to yourself - I see four lights NOT five.


"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
-- H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

[fortyfeetunder]

86. We need a separate topic on this.

right now it's 56 in favor of *....

[katinmn]

104. adding a related thread that was locked

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=177799&mesg_id=177799&page=

[Name removed]

124. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Pachamama]

183. Just voted on their poll - I wish there was the category for "disgusted"

with their choice...absolutely disgusted...I will never pick up another Time magazine as long as I live....

:puke:

[Robbien]

21. Okay, thank the heavens the hide buttons are working

This is one thread that is going to get hidden. And Time is a magazine and site which I will not buy or click on in the future.

Yuck, yuck, yuck.

[deminflorida]

22. As a Humanitarian Gesture we should purchase 1000,000 copies

and send them to the most economically depressed areas in the South. That way when the bottom of the economy finally does drop out, they will have something to wipe their asses with when they can't afford toilet paper.

[Guava Jelly]

23. time to cancel my subscription

thats twice now time has done that after a fishy election.
Actially shouldnt Scott Peterson be man of the year the fuc*en media talked about him non stop

[CountAllVotes]

51. I just won't renew mine

and throw it away when it comes anyway. I hate TIME magazine! Let them keep sending it to me. Let them waste money on the mailing and materials to print the rag. Go right ahead TIME. I won't be renewing it, that is fors sure! *ugh!!!!!!!!*

:dem:

[tavalon]

162. You would be a more effective voice if you cancelled now

the other way is passive and doesn't make any statement.

[CountAllVotes]

168. ok I just cancelled on line! :)

cancel on line here: www.time.com/customerservice.

Make you you leave the . in after customerservice.

:D

:dem: :kick:

[Harry S Truman]

26. T-shirt order

Quick! Someone get a Time Man of the Year cover with Hitler and one with the Chimp, juxtapose them and make T-shirts that say...
Hitler. Bush. Any questions?

I'll buy a dozen in black.

[Catchawave]

38. Great idea ! n/t

[spanone]

29. B U L L S H I T

[CBHagman]

33. It ought to have been the Jersey Girls.

Check which figures Ms. Magazine chooses to honor:

http://www.msmagazine.com/press/2004-12-01-woty.asp

In other words, they choose people who actually had courage.

As for Bush, to paraphrase the late Mickey Leland's words on the pharmaceutical lobbyists, he is an evil violator of mothers.

[marew]

34. Leadership my behind

If being a narrow-minded jerk who's responsible for the deaths of thousands, thinks God speaks to him, gives money to the rich and takes from the poor,etc. is leadership, then I guess Bush is a leader. BTY, if he ever really read the bible, I believe helping the poor is mentioned repeatedly. Bush is a hypocrite just like all those big deal 'moral majority' creeps. I can't stand him!!!

[Nay]

35. Unless Time is putting * in the Hitler-Mao-Stalin category by

talking about how BADLY he has fucked up things, then they are consciously putting him in the category of the GOOD guys they have had on the cover. So, yes, this makes me so sick I want to :puke:

And no, if Kerry had won, I don't think he would have made the cover this time, or any other time, in his administration. MSM forces would have been marshalled to bring him down, not put him on the cover of Time.

[tx_dem41]

39. Although I usually don't get hyped up about who they pick...

realizing that it doesn't necessarily have to be an honor, just an acknowledgement of who the biggest newsmaker was.....that first line in this Reuters story makes me sick.

[Massachusetts]

40. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH......pant, pant, pant HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, WE REALLY ARE F'ED:wtf: LET THE REVOLUTION BE TELEVISED!!!!!

[goodboy]

42. I was looking for a reason to cancel my subscription.

[The Flaming Red Head]

43. Amused by c-span caller who said Time was left wing media

And was proud of them for choosing Bush

[Ian David]

52. My reply to Time

Dear Time,

The care, thought and tact that you used in defining Bush as Man of The Year deserves an equally thoughtful and tactful response:

Fuck You.

[The Flaming Red Head]

202. That's funny. nt

[Clark2008]

50. Here's what we do

DO NOT buy this edition.

And, if you're a subscriber, cancel your subscription and send back the front page with the Shrub on it - scribble horns on him and write "FASCIST" across his face.

Time to teach the MSM the meaning of "uncompromising."

The more we take our money somewhere else, the more they're apt to listen.

Get it? Got it. Good.

[wicket]

53. Barf-erriffic

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[Freebird12004]

54. another reason I don't read Time Magazine

[LibDemAlways]

55. "10 gallon hat leadership"

They left out the "no cattle" part. We have our work cut out for us this week. Every supermarket check-out magazine display and drugstore magazine rack -- not to mention corner newsstands and big bookstore chains -- will have the chimp's ugly mug prominently on display with the "Man of the Year" Cover. Turn them over. Hide them behind Modern Bride. Hell, take a stack and stick them behind the Depends Undergarments in the drugstore or behind the books in some obscure corner of the bookstore. In short, suppress sales. Time is Media Whore of the Year. I don't think this issue will be a big seller to begin with, but with a little creativity and "re-arranging the shelves," we can help make it the poorest selling Man of the Year Cover ever.

[zann725]

107. Question is, "10 Gallons" of what?

Anyone?

[Career Prole]

58. BOYCOTT!

I'm gonna save so much boycotting I'll be able to buy myself the cover of Time in a couple of years.
:grr:

[llmart]

59. What did you people at DU expect.......

from Time Magazine? Couldn't you tell from all their articles about this idiot that they were right-wing? I wouldn't read or subscribe to Time if it were the last magazine on earth. It was always very obvious to me that they were kissing up to bush/cheney. Why would anyone here every waste their hard earned money on a subscription?

The media can throw this shit in our faces over and over again, but I'll never buy into it. He is still the "Worst President Ever" in my lifetime. I'm still embarrassed for America.

[livvy]

61. Oh, man, what a disgrace!

I voted and sent my opinion along also. Since when did stubborness and a lack of vision become something to write about?:puke: Guy just makes me sick!

[ashling]

62. In the tradition of Adolph Hitler and Khomeni

If you think about it, who has had a bigger impact on the world

he has killed more people, or caused more turmoil, conflict, distrust and dissent around the globe?

[GCP]

63. They're a little bit circumscribed with their description of him, however

'the magazine's editors tapped Bush "for sharpening the debate until the choices bled, for reframing reality to match his design, for gambling his fortunes — and ours — on his faith in the power of leadership."

Seems a little shaded to me.

[Poor Richard Lex]

64. barf eom

[Laurab]

65. Cancelled my subscription:

To Whom it May Concern:

I have just cancelled my subscription to your magazine due to your choice of George W. Bush as "Man of the Year". I had always thought of "Time" as a source of unbiased news, but it would appear that you too have become part of the right wing media machine.

How you could choose a man who has caused so much damage to our country, and who will almost certainly go down as the worst president in the history of this country is beyond me.

I have lost all respect for your magazine, and no longer consider it a source of news. I cannot and will not subscribe to a magazine that honors a man who has been responsible for so many unneccesary deaths, so much destruction, and so much hate across the world. This is truly a sad day, and you should be ashamed. I will NEVER buy or read your magazine again. I understand Hitler, and possibly Stalin were previous choices of yours, so perhaps it is fitting with whatever criteria you use, but I am ASHAMED to be a subscriber, thus I no longer am. This literally sickens me.

[ckramer]

66. Is it time for DUers to unsubscribe TIME?

Yes, it's about time!

[devinsgram]

67. I'm in.

I can not have that filth in my home.

[Bigmack]

68. Poll Voting is screwed up!!

Hey... just like the election!

I just voted at the Time website, and they say 59.1 agree with the choice of Dumbya as MOY, compared with 48.9 who disagree. 1253 votes cast.

That's Florida or Ohio results there, my friends.

It's 9 am pacific time... let's see how long the "vote confusion" lasts.

[LOCxHippy]

177. I am disgusted and disappointed...a semi permanent condition!

I see no honor for a man who has divided the country he is supposed to be leading, alienated 99% of the rest of the world, and been responsible for the deaths of thousands of human beings. This choice is a disgrace, not a smart decision. TIME should have avoided the obvious polarity this will cause. We are already divided, and they are being cavalier with our feelings and disregarding our opinions.
The irony is, I doubt they will lose money over this issue. nor do I think they "care"...this will, ultimately, generate some "fabulous" Letters to the Editor. (which you can also do on that first link under the Poll)

http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/2004/story.html

This poll results are at almost Midnight, PST.
http://www.time.com/gdml.dyn

Do you agree with TIME's choice for Person of the Year?
Yes=52.4%
No=47.7%

Total Votes Cast: 4847
I forwarded this page to a lot of people to ask them to go vote...I won't post it on the public boards because the bozos will go vote for dunderhead.

[hyphenate]

69. ......

"U.S. President George W. Bush's bold, uncompromising leadership and his clear-cut election victory made him Time magazine's Person of the Year for 2004, its managing editor said Sunday."

Oh, how droll. :eyes:

:puke:

[Whoa_Nelly]

70. Who were the other contenders for the selection?

There had to be others Time had considered...

Will add a "Hitler" mustache to every copy I come across, such as in waiting rooms/areas, etc.

[zann725]

109. Yeah, Kkkkarl Rove! Go figure....

n/t

[Whoa_Nelly]

115. O MY F***ING GOD!! Jesus was one of the nominees! read here!

http://tinyurl.com/3tdop

Time debates the person of the year
By Jon Friedman, CBS.MarketWatch.com
Last Update: 6:12 PM ET Nov. 16, 2004
E-mail it | Print | Alert | Reprint | RSS

SNIP

Time held a lunch Tuesday for about 100 journalists, advertisers and dignitaries in its New York offices. A panel consisting of 2002 co-person of the year Coleen Rowley ("The Whistleblowers"), Brian Williams of NBC News, former presidential candidate the Rev. Al Sharpton, and journalists Alessandra Stanley and Andrew Sullivan debated various choices for the honor.

Based on the enthusiasm expressed at the lunch for each nominee, it would seem that the frontrunners, for now, are President Bush, Bush campaign strategist Karl Rove, God and Jesus Christ.

"God is a very provocative choice because it does raise a number of theological issues," Kelly said. "Maybe we'd have to call the issue 'The Deity of the Year.' "

Of course, choosing God over Jesus -- or vice versa -- would cause a stir.

"If I had to choose between God and Jesus, I would go for the Holy Ghost," Kelly quipped.

more...

(Made a tiny URL--actual URL (subscription to CBS MarketWatch needed):
http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?dist=¶m=archive&siteid=mktw&guid=%7BFF9A1DBA%2DB2B6%2D44D6%2D939A%2D26202D6CD272%7D&garden=&minisite=

[despairing optimist]

147. Two other contenders were Michael Moore and . . . Mel Gibson!

It was on NBC's NYC Sunday night news show. I don't know who else was considered, but remember that Person of the Year isn't necessarily a compliment, only that that person was judged the most influential in affecting the outcome of events for the world in a particular year.

I'm fairly sure that if Kerry had won, Michael Moore would have been a virtual shoo-in.

If anyone knows of a stargate to an alternate universe that I can slip through and never return, that has Kerry winning the presidency and Michael Moore on Time's Person of the Year cover, please don't keep it to yourself.

[Gayad]

72. What a joke!

I did not vote for this guy for president nor would select him as Man of the year. What is wrong with Time Magazine?

[mirounga]

75. Time

I think they meant "Person of Interest"!!

[Name removed]

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[hlthe2b]

78. Something perversely appropriate: Bush* and Hitler....

:eyes:

[sweetheart]

79. Yet the rest of the world will forever remember Lyndie England..

pointing at bush's tortured shrivelled dick.

[rust1d]

80. Here's a Reminder!

http://www.notthistimegeorge.org">Not This Time George!

[merh]

81. The weed joins Hitler & Stalin, how surprising

<>
(Hitler at his organ, playing some good ole fashion Christian music I bet.)

<>

[AmerDem]

83. "clear-cut election victory" ....with no mention of Ohio

Remember when Time could be looked upon as a creditable news organization? :puke:

[Lone Pawn]

87. Dude, even Michael Moore doesn't think Ohio was stolen.

Get the lastest issue of Rolling Stone, and read the Moore piece.

[Bono71]

113. Yeah, I read it. I don't think Ohio was stolen either...we just

ran a crap campaign and got beat by an encumbant during a war.

The next four years will suck, but there is always 08 (not to mention 06).

[Art_from_Ark]

159. I've never looked upon TIME as a credible news source

since I started my first subscription during the Reagan years and became disgusted with all the Reagan all-kissing going on back then. After my subscription lapsed, I bought an occasional issue at the newsstand, but it always sucked, so I haven't bought that slop nearly a decade.

And TIME-Asia sucks, too.

[depakid]

85. Hardly surprising, since Time/Warner/CNN has been whoring

for the guy all year, and its founder Henry Luce was the quintesential post war imperialist. PNAC before there was such a thing.

It's truly bad magazine, anyway- so just treat it like CNN- ignore it.

[Gregorian]

88. Why not Bin Laden?

I mean, come on, if Hitler made the list, why stop at Bush....Oh. I think I get it.

[Mad_Dem_X]

203. Bin Laden who????

eom

[Cha]

89. They waited until bush compliled

more shit on his failure list to finally making him "chimp of the year"..I cancelled my subscription to time over 2 years ago just because of propoganda shyte like this.


Wouldn't it be sweet if everyone that voted for Kerry cancelled their subscription to time?

[Paintedlady]

95. I canceled mine today

Actually two subscriptions, one for me and one for my student daughter. The lady operator was very careful to write down my reasons exactly as I stated them. I also told her that I will tell everybody I know to cancel theirs.
I hope they will lose a lot of money over this one.

[Name removed]

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[0007]

92. Jays'us fucking Christ are things fucked up in this crazy world.

Time magazine will never never ever see another penny from me.

[Name removed]

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[enki23]

96. polishing the fucking turd

.

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[greatscott15]

99. This Sucks, considering it is Time

Disappointed in time magazine. They are usually on our side. Hard to believe there was not one else out there they could have picked.

[NightTrain]

98. TIME's "Man of the Year" for 1979 was the Ayatollah Khomeini.

So I'd say the nagazine has a history of stupid decisions.

[IndianaGreen]

101. TIME also named Hitler and Stalin as Men of the Year

So what does making the cover of TIME prove? Nada!

[Art_from_Ark]

161. The second time Stalin was chosen, he was a US ally

and his army was in the process of driving the Germans out of Stalingrad

[IndianaGreen]

173. Saddam was also a US ally

when he was at war against Iran, and Osama was our pal, when he was fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan.

Some strange bedfellows!

[rolleitreks]

102. How do you spell Obsequious?

T-I-M-E.

[Mabeline]

103. Ookay...

I would have liked to have seen the "candidates for the presidency 2004" all the democrats as well as reps...would have been a much more interesting story.

[ticapnews]

105. Please remember that it is wrong to compare Bush and the GOP to Hitler...

and the Nazis. It is perfectly acceptable to refer to Democratic leaders as Marxists and liberals as Communists.

:puke:
:eyes:
:shrug:

[TiKiGoD]

108. Nixon in '71, Nixon/Kissinger in '72

It's the same old gang from Nixon's administration in power today. Let's hope they all go down in the second term again. And over an election related scandal again.

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[bling bling]

111. I Agree with Time

The CNN article was less detailed than the one I read on Yahoo. I didn't get the feeling that Time selected Bush because they wanted to whore for him. Bush was the man this year because soooooo many people hate him with a passion, yet he's still in power. I hate that his stupid face will be on the cover for any reason, but I don't blame Time for choosing him. They don't pick the "best" person of the year. Just the most influencial (good or bad).

From the Yahoo Article:
<snip>

The election was about the use of American influence," Bush said.

After a grueling campaign, Bush remains a polarizing figure in America and around the world, and that's part of the reason he earned the magazine's honor, said Managing Editor Jim Kelly.

"Many, many Americans deeply wish he had not won," Kelly said in a telephone interview. "And yet he did."

In the Time article, Bush said he relishes that some people dislike him.

"I think the natural instinct for most people in the political world is that they want people to like them," Bush said. "On the other hand, I think sometimes I take kind of a delight in who the critics are."

<snip>

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=2&u=/ap/20041219/ap_on_go_pr_wh/time_person_of_the_year

[pacifictiger]

112. Time has always picked people

who meet their criteria of "for better or worse" facilitate events of change.
Bush certainly fits this catagory - and is in good keeping with former "person of the year" from years gone by - people such as Hitler and Saddam.

Edit: my mistake - Saddam was only a finalist - Hitler was man of the year for 1938.

[annonymous]

114. How disgusting.

Maybe I should let my subscription lapse and subscribe to Mother Jones or The Nation instead.

[daleo]

117. Some other acolytes, to keep Bush appropriate company

1937 Generalissimo & Mme Chiang Kai-Shek
1938 Adolf Hitler
1939 Joseph Stalin
1942 Joseph Stalin
1965 General William Childs Westmoreland
1971 Richard Milhous Nixon
1972 Nixon and Kissinger
1979 Ayatullah Khomeini
1990 The Two George Bushes
1995 Newt Gingrich

[ailsagirl]

142. Don't forget LBJ-- though a Dem, he was a VILE man

They gave it to him TWICE

[Deja Q]

122. And now the peoples of the civilized world will have another reason to

think that we're all blindly supportive of him*. :-(

[ailsagirl]

125. Their email is [e-mail]

[PallasAthena]

127. Sorry I don't subscribe, so I could cancel my subscription

in disgust and protest!

[ailsagirl]

144. EMAIL THEM

[PallasAthena]

206. Thanks...that's a good idea! I will.

[PallasAthena]

213. E-mailed Time -- here's the answer, too!

>Dear Time Editors,
>
>I'm sorry that I don't subscribe to Time, because your choice of George Bush
>for Man of Year would make me cancel it. I cannot believe that you would
>honor someone who has deceptively taken the country to war, killed over 1300
>Americans needlessly (so far) and who knows how many Iraqis, has lied to
>Congress about the Big Pharma-rewarding Medicare drug program, cut taxes
>for the wealthy while states go bankrupt, and now plans to destroy Social
>Security (as I, a baby-boomer, approach retirement age). Nice job!
>
>Carol R.

Dear Reader:

We regret your disappointment over the selection of President Bush as
TIME's Person of the Year. But perhaps we should remind you of the
traditional standard by which the editors make their annual choice.
The Person of the Year is not an award or a tribute. The question at
the center of the selection process is, Who or what, for better or
worse, has affected the way we live today? The answer to that
question could be a positive force (for example, Winston Churchill,
Man of the Year, 1940; Dwight Eisenhower, 1944) or a negative force
(Adolf Hitler, Man of the Year, 1939; Ayatullah Khomeini, 1979). As
for our selection of President George W. Bush for 2004 -- there is
no one else whose agenda and actions in the past year had such
universal impact. As managing editor Jim Kelly noted in his Letter
From the Editor, Bush has had his highs and lows over the past four
years, but in the end he prevailed in the 2004 election by
"persuading a majority of voters this time around that he deserved to
be in the White House for another four years."

Thank you for writing. We appreciated having the opportunity to
respond to your concerns.

Best wishes.


TIME Letters

[NeoConsSuck]

133. It should have been the Iraqi Insurgent ...

they were the newsmakers in 2004 (and in 2003).

And yes, I can't wait for Time mag to call me this year to renew. Sorry guys and gals, I go to wsws.org. I'm telling them I get truth in my news now, not their corporate spin.

[Placebo]

134. I have already updated my signature appropriately.

Hitler 1938, Bush 2004, Stalin 1942

[rust1d]

146. Hitler / Bush Morph

Use that in your sig !

[ChiciB1]

135. This Is Soooooooo Sick!

And IDIOT for Man Of The Year!!

Don't think I'll be reading TIME Magazine anymore. I want My AMERICA Back!! This is Pure Madness, to heap praise onto an EGO that's already inflated beyond comprehension!

BOYCOTT TIME MAGAZINE!

[Name removed]

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[jody]

138. Sixty six years from Hitler to Bush as Man of the Year

For Man of the Year for 1938, Time Magazine chose Adolf Hitler -- Führer of the German people, Commander-in-Chief of the German military, and Chancellor of the Third Reich. Sixty-six years later for Man of the Year for 2004, Time chose George W. Bush -- leader of the U.S. people, Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. military, and President of the U.S. Each leader set out to establish a New World Order and each saw its homeland devastated by economic depression, persecution of a religious minority, and military failures following preemptive invasions of other countries. Will future historians uncover other similarities?

EDIT TO ADD
Ian Kershaw, a highly respected historian, wrote that Adolf Hitler believed God had chosen him to lead Germany into its proper place as a world power. Many Germans became fanatical devotees of the "Fuhrer Cult" however, that changed as more and more people realized that Hitler was lying to them about the war and the economy.

Kershaw quoted one opinion circa 1944, "It's always claimed that the Fuhrer has been sent to us from God. I don't doubt it. The Fuhrer was sent to us from God, through not in order to save Germany, but to ruin it. Providence has determined the destruction of the German people, and Hitler is the executor of this will."

[genieroze]

139. WTF

:puke:

[genieroze]

140. Now I got a pic for my dart board.! eom

[ailsagirl]

141. Check out their archives for "Person of the Year"

They gave it to Dub in 2000 (this is his SECOND TIME??????)
They gave it to GINGRICH in 1995

In going down the list, some were worthy, many not

http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/archive/stories/

[anarchy1999]

143. It is okay. They named Hitler man of the year as well, along with Stalin

twice. Why be surprised or outraged? Time has a long history of loving "Facism". F them all. Cheers to us all, Bush is on the cover as MAN OF THE YEAR!


Too bad they did not consider Sibel Edmonds.

On edit: I will call and send messages to Time I will never pick up or purchase a mag from them ever again, nor will I ever click on a link to them on line.

On edit again:

This is nothing but an outrage!!!!!

[Thor_MN]

148. What a joke, did they pick Hitler in 1942?

[WCGreen]

149. "An American Idiot......."

[tavalon]

152. "...bold, uncompromising leadership and his clear-cut election victory

That would be the mainstream media dimension, not to be confused with the twilight zone, which, unfortunately, it sometimes is.

[moondust]

163. "Most Despised Human On Earth"

That'll get it.

[peterh]

164. As others have stated….so was Hitler….

It’s all in the eye of the beholder…and from these pair of eyes….he is by far and away, the most recognized and hated critter on the face of the earth….so Time regresses back to `38…or was it `42….regardless, we’ve witnessed a great deal of regression of late….

[CountAllVotes]

165. cancel on line - I just did!

you go to www.time.com/customerservice. Make sure you have the "." in after the word customerservice, because it won't work without it.

www.time.com/customerservice.



They need you account number which appears directly above your name - in my case 11 #'s the acct. # was. i.e. 1234 456 7890. I typed this in along with my zip code and cancel it, you see the option to "cancel subscription" on the left hand side in a column.

It asked me if I wanted to cancel at once or wait until the end of the subscription period. I clicked on "cancel at once".

I hate this piece of crap magazine! I never read it ANYWAY and now I have another reason to really not want it.

:kick:

[meganmonkey]

166. All I have to say about that is

:puke: :puke: :puke:

(we're all gonna die, aren't we? :scared: )

[w4rma]

167. "clear cut"? AOL/Time Warner can go to hell. (nt)

[rodeodance]

170. his swagger will get bigger as will his Head!!

[BlueTexan]

169. Would be hilarious

I wonder if Time will put Bush on the cover when he gets impeached for rigging the election!

[Skittles]

172. who will impeach that bastard?

his loyal goose-stepping congress???

[ausiedownunderground]

174. Dont worry neoconssuck iraqi guerilla will be person of the year 2005

Over here in Oz we tend to call the Iraqi insurgent either a guerilla or freedom fighter. Like Osama Bin Laden losing out to what was the mayor called in 2001, the Iraqi guerilla has lost out to what's that idiot that runs the world war machine in 2004. However the rest of the world is quietly confident that the Iraqi Guerilla will lift his/her game in 2005 and bounce back to take the US mainstrem media's top accolade!!!

[Swamp Rat]

175. Here's my contribution:

[aikido15]

179. And my contribution: Picture of the day....

http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs/signs.htm

[Swamp Rat]

180. YES! The ALIENS!!!

[caligirl]

207. ACLU: Bush authorized torture, war criminal/ Time: Man of the Year

[marylanddem]

191. fanfu-kingtastic rendering

Swamp Rat, I think you should be chimp's house artist - you capture with ineffable subtlety his timeless evil

[Swamp Rat]

205. Thank you

Now THAT would be fun, though I think the king would say "off with his head" upon seeing the first portrait. :)

[cascadiance]

210. I'll add one that I photoshopped earlier today...

I think this one is a far better comparison than the original photo that Bush was posing in front of for this occasion!

[Swamp Rat]

212. Welcome to DU!

[stackhouse]

176. what a crock of.........

this is 100% media suck up and how time has finaly grabed there ankles on this one

[aikido15]

178. Hitler was also Time's man of the year....

in 1938, so why not Bush, makes sense to me!

Scroll down to "picture of the day" http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs/signs.htm

[GoddessOfGuinness]

181. Why I don't buy Time

:puke:

[Piperay]

182. Kissing chimp ass

is not going to preserve Freedom of the Press if that is their intention, stupid idiots. :silly:

[tngledwebb]

184. How much more proof is needed ? MSM is either utterly idiotic or...

MSM is utterly complicit with this utterly corrupt and utterly evil regime.

How so? Let's start with the stealing and cover-up of at least two presidential elections, with the disseminating and acceptance of hundreds of lies that led to two immoral and illegal wars, with the constant Democrat/liberal agenda and Dem candidate bashing of at least the past decade.

Let's see, anything I've left out? Oh yes, in the cover-up of the real truth behind that horrible day three years ago, an event which completely reversed the downward popularity spiral of the self-same fascist regime...

[muchacho]

185. Rove should have got it

for brilliantly shaping the publics mind to accept that black is white and war is peace and then winning an election for a failed president on the basis.

Yep, should have been Karl Rove, the evil genius.

[pippin]

186. Joining the Rogues' Gallery

Hitler: Man of the Year, January2, 1939

[maduroftime]

187. I will never read that damn rag again...

:wtf:

[0007]

188. CNN has a poll that sez junior shouldn't be man of the year

Do you think President Bush was a good choice for Time magazine's Person of the Year?
Yes 35%
64835 votes

No 65%
121704 votes

Total: 186539 votes

[Massachusetts]

189. Corporate Monster

The corporate monster needs to sell in order to feed itself. Saps will buy into this, enlightened individuals will not.

Give US OUR country back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:grr: :grr: :grr:

[0007]

190. We've been hijacked, the game may be over!!

Before the election all the polls showed Kerry almost a two to one favorite. I'm still having a hard time dealing with that one.

[Mr_Spock]

192. "Man of the Year" "LYING MASS-MURDERING WAR CRIMINAL of the CENTURY"

* is one of the most reprehensible characters of modern times - his legacy will be of a country lost and divided by a simple-minded fool.

[truebrit71]

193. F**king Liberal Media....

Typical arse-licking from the presstitutes in the "media"....

[Chimpanzee]

194. Actually it is very appropriate

Time's criteria:

“the person or persons who most affected the news and our lives, for good or for ill, and embodied what was important about the year, for better or for worse"

No one can deny that Bush has been one person on the planet that has most affected our lives for ill.

[k8conant]

195. Letter to TIME: Next year is our turn!!!

My letter to Time magazine today:
I have been reading Time for 50 years. I disagree with your choice of
George W. Bush for Person of the Year, but I am not taken aback (after
all, Hitler was once Time's Man of the Year). In their article "George
W. Bush", Nancy Gibbs and John F. Dickerson state that "It may be that
a peculiar chemistry of skills and instincts and circumstances gave Bush
his victory in a way no future candidates can copy. But that doesn't
mean they won't try." This "peculiar chemistry" seems to have included
fraud and vote tampering by his supporters (in Ohio, Florida, New
Mexico, and other states). You're probably right that others will try
to copy this to try to win the presidency, but I would hope that they do
not succeed.
Also you have an article about right-wing blogs entitled "Blogs Have
Their Day" by Lev Grossman. It is of course presumptuous of Grossman to
state: "When you read Power Line, you feel as if you're part of a
community, a like-minded righteous few." That community is not ours,
never will be. I believe that within the next month we on the Internet
who have been investigating the rampant fraud and vote tampering will
"Have our Years" when the scandal is finally brought out and prosecuted.
Chris Taylor states in "10 Things We Learned About Blogs" that "Bloggers
Keep News Alive"; he cites dailyKos.com (talking the strange box on
Bush's back in the debate); and still I have not found a word about J.
Kenneth Blackwell's shenanigans, the roles of Diebold and Triad in the
Ohio election and the recounts requested by the Greens and Libertarians,
the hearings headed by Rep. John Conyers, Jr., and the suits filed by
the Rev. William Moss et al by Cliff Arnebeck of the Alliance for
Democracy.
Your 2002 Persons of the Years were the Whistleblowers: Cynthia Cooper of
Worldcom, Colleen Rowley of the FBI, and Sherron Watkins of Enron. I look
forward to seeing those of us who are pursuing the overturn of
the 2004 presidential election as the 2005 Persons of the Year.

(k8conant)
address
phone
email

[PunkPop]

196. My copy just arrived in the mail!!

[k8conant]

197. I didn't cancel my subscription because....

I think I still want to "know the foe".

http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1101041115-750736,00.html

"I promise you, it's me."

—George W. Bush
Making a phone call to a voter in Columbus, Ohio, on his way back to Washington on Election Day

We will turn it back on him with his own words: "You can run, but you can't hide."

:kick:

[Megahurtz]

199. I can't stand this country anymore

the media all lies, and we're all stuck here just because we're born here?
When is this shit going to end? :(

[lies and propaganda]

201. just one more piece of trash

that i wont be contributing to the environment.

Time magazine can go fuck itself.

[Lisa]

204. he sure looks plump in that portrait!

I know, he's added a few pounds in real life -- but the fact that the artist is daring to show it ... maybe it ain't quite a dictatorship yet.

[merwin]

208. Why's everyone so mad? TIME even says Bush is evil. Check this out...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1444806

[Bouncy Ball]

209. I honestly don't know why any thinking person

would read any of this mainstream crap. I reject it outright as pure propaganda.

Everyone should cancel their subscriptions to magazines such as Time, Newsweek, US News and World Report, etc. And send an email or a letter explaining exactly WHY.

Now THAT would send a strong message!!!

[American Tragedy]

215. Wake the fuck up, guys. Influential people are not always good.

It's naive and foolish to pretend otherwise.

As I said before, I personally thought it should have been Karl Rove. He managed a victory out of the worst and most vulnerable presidential candidate in modern history. Rove proved that one could win in America by appealing to the worst in human nature, which is a profound statement with terrible implications for the future.

Still, Bush plays a vital role in that, since those two constitute a symbiotic relationship, as the mask and the intellect of that political persona. It's a very justifiable choice, since he is the face that alternately inspires and repulses most of the American electorate.

If not him, then who? Nobody here yet has been able to come up with somebody who really had greater effect. Our view of the election was generally oriented around our fear and hatred of this man and the people who followed him, and now we have to face that unspeakable fear as he is a lameduck president for the next four years. I would think that DUers of all people would consider Bush to have greatest influence over our lives in the past year. Even if he is merely a puppet, he serves as a symbol of all the people who oppose everything in which we believe.

[Debbie13]

216. Deleted duplicate

Deleted because a duplicate

[Cooley Hurd]

217. "Do you agree with TIME's choice for Person of the Year? "

Yes: 40.1%
No: 59.9%

Total Votes Cast: 17143