2002 Meeting, Gonzales & Top Admin Lawyers Discuss Interrogating Suspects

[seemslikeadream]

At 2002 Meeting, Alberto Gonzales and Top Administration Lawyers Discussed Pressure Techniques for Interrogating Terror Suspects

Gonzales's Role in So-Called 'Torture Memo' Will Be a Chief Focus of His
Confirmation Hearings, Say Sources Close to Senate Judiciary Committee

NEW YORK, Dec. 19 /PRNewswire/ -- At a July 2002 meeting led by Alberto
Gonzales (then President Bush's chief counsel, now Bush's nominee for attorney
general), top Bush administration lawyers went over five or six pressure
techniques proposed by the CIA for interrogating terror suspects, Newsweek
reports in its December 27 year-end double issue (on newsstands Monday,
December 20). One technique, mock burials, was nixed as too harsh, a
participant in the meeting recalls. Another, the open-handed slapping of
suspects, drew much discussion. Gonzales and the lawyers also discussed in
great detail how to legally justify such methods.

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http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/12-19-2004/0002660923&EDATE=

[bullimiami]

1. prima facie evidence of war crimes.

this administration is criminal.

[Octafish]

2. Wonder when they OK'd the really bad stuff, like widespread child abuse?

... that is pure evil. And that, too, defines war crimes.



Why Have We Suddenly Forgotten Abu Ghraib?

"Children, Ardent for Some Desperate Glory"

By ROBERT FISK
The Independent
September 28, 2004

We are now in the greatest crisis since the last greatest crisis. That's how we run the Iraq war--or the Second Iraq War as Lord Blair of Kut al-Amara would now have us believe. Hostages are paraded in orange tracksuits to remind us of Guantanamo Bay. Kidnappers demand the release of women held prisoner by the Americans. Abu Ghraib is what they are talking about. Abu Ghraib? Anyone remember Abu Ghraib? Remember those dirty little snapshots? But don't worry. This wasn't the America George Bush recognised, and besides we're punishing the bad apples, aren't we? Women? Why, there are only a couple of dames left--and they are "Dr Germ" and "Dr Anthrax".

But Arabs do not forget so easily. It was a Lebanese woman, Samia Melki, who first understood the true semantics of those Abu Ghraib photographs for the Arab world. The naked Iraqi, his body smeared with excrement, back to the camera, arms stretched out before the butch and blond American with a stick, possessed, she wrote in CounterPunch, "all the drama and contrasting colours of a Caravaggio painting".

The best of Baroque art invites the viewer to be part of the artwork. "Forced to walk in a straight line with his legs crossed, his torso slightly twisted and arms spread out for balance, the Iraqi prisoner's toned body, accentuated by the excrement and the bad lighting, stretches out in crucifix form. Exuding a dignity long denied, the Arab is suffering for the world's sins."

And that, I fear, is the least of the suffering that has gone on at Abu Ghraib. For what happened to all those videos which members of Congress were allowed to watch in secret and which we--the public--were not permitted to see? Why have we suddenly forgotten about Abu Ghraib? Seymour Hersh, the journalist who broke the Abu Ghraib story--and one of the only journalists in America who is doing his job--has spoken publicly about what else happened in that terrible jail.

I'm indebted to a reader for the following extract from a recent Hersh lecture: "Some of the worst things that happened that you don't know about. OK? Videos. There are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib... The women were passing messages out saying please come and kill me because of what's happened. And basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children, in cases that have been recorded, the boys were sodomised, with the cameras rolling, and the worst above all of them is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking..."

CONTINUED BUSH EVIL...

http://www.counterpunch.org/fisk09282004.html

EdiT: htfml

[The Judged]

3. O.K., now substitute "American citizens" for "suspects."

[daleo]

4. Amazing that American lawyers could discuss such things

To think that the man is up to be attorney general is just beyond all understanding. It is reminiscent of the torture discussions that must have surrounded the Spanish Inquisition.

[HuffleClaw]

5. mock burials?

oh my. what sadistic piece of walking refuse thought that up? its sickening that they'd even CONSIDER such a thing.

[truthisfreedom]

6. interesting stuff, coming from an interesting source.