FBI Claims More Arab Prisoners Abused

[Paleocon]

FBI agents are increasingly complaining about what they consider abusive physical and mental torture by military officials against prisoners held in Iraq and Cuba, including lighted cigarettes stuck in detainees' ears and Arab captives being humiliated with Israeli flags wrapped around them, according to new documents released today.

The FBI records are the latest set of documents obtained by the ACLU in its lawsuit against the federal government and include instances in which bureau officials were disgusted that military interrogators pretended to be FBI agents and used the scheme as a "ruse" to glean intelligence information from prisoners.

In addition, the FBI complained that military interrogators have gone far beyond the restrictions of the Geneva Conventions prohibiting torture and have followed an apparently new executive order from President Bush that permits the use of dogs and other techniques to harass prisoners.

"We know what's permissible for FBI agents but are less sure what is permissible for military interrogators," the FBI's "on-scene commander-Baghdad" complained to his bureau colleagues last May, well after the abuse scandal at the Abu Ghraib prison had become public.

http://fairuse.1accesshost.com/news2/latimes464.html

Just what the "F!" is going on here??? This is not the Army I served in. When will we happy? When we alieanate the entire world???

I think the "wrapping in Israeli flags" is a nice touch. Shows how fair and balanced we must be in negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians...

NOT!

[MSgt213]

1. No one should be surprised when we let Bush do anything he wants to

protect our scared asses. Power unchecked is a hell of a thing.

[Paleocon]

3. Ain't that the truth....

:mad:

[Demeter]

7. And the Truth Will Set Us Free!

Doesn't the FBI use that as their motto?

[Paleocon]

8. I doubt that they do, but I hope you are right!

[Is It Fascism Yet]

2. it's gotta be really bad when the men in black can't even stomach it!

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

4. A similar article in the NY Times today

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/21/politics/21abuse.html?oref=login&pagewanted=2&th

For those who don't wish to go through the hassle of registering, the gist of it was that the FBI is angry that DOD people posed as FBI agents when doing illegal interrogations, the implication being that if they were caught they'd foist the whole mess on the FBI. Guess that's why the Agency was willing to comply with the ACLU's request for information. I'll quote one passage towards the end of the article, because it is quite telling:

The Dec. 5, 2003, memorandum in which an agent frets about the F.B.I. being left "holding the bag," also asserted that the threats and abuses of one detainee did not produce any intelligence that could help thwart an attack. Further, the memorandum said other bureau officials believed that the harsh interrogation techniques would have meant that any chances of prosecuting the individual were destroyed because the evidence would have to be thrown out in court because it was coerced.

The issue of military interrogators' impersonating F.B.I. agents was especially troubling to bureau officials, according to the memorandums, not least because they seem to have been unsuccessful in persuading the military to stop the practice.


Guantánamo Inmate to Be Freed


WASHINGTON, Dec. 20 (AP) - A military review has determined that a second prisoner held at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, is wrongly classified as an enemy combatant and will be released to his home country soon, the Navy secretary said Monday.

Navy Secretary Gordon England refused to provide the man's name or nationality.

[gottaB]

5. Actually, FBI agents claim prisoners were tortured

[Demeter]

6. That's What They Get for Messing With the FBI Image

Unlike the CIA, Fibbers aren't taking this lying down, nor are they voting with their feet, like the CIA and the Army and National Guard. Maybe it is the FBI who will White Knight us out of this morass with these morons, and by starting the avalanche, bring the dirt from the CIA into play.

[Paleocon]

9. I think if we are waiting for a government agency to save us...

we will be waiting for a long, long time...

[OneBlueSky]

10. is ANYONE ever going to be held accountable for this? . . .

or have we just accepted that the Geneva Convention no longer applies to Americans? . . .

[Paleocon]

11. Yeah.... Let's go with that...

We're the big bullies so we make the rules...

That's us, the big DUMB bullies...