GOP demands voter list in Wash. county

[stevedeshazer]

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — Republicans are demanding a list of voters in Washington state's most populous county as the party considers a court challenge of Democrat Christine Gregoire's razor-thin victory in the governor's race, officials said Monday.

A hand recount put Gregoire ahead by 130 votes out of 2.8 million cast. Previous counts had favored Republican Dino Rossi, an affluent former state senator.

Chris Vance, state Republican party chairman, said officials will decide whether to challenge the recount results after studying the voter rolls from King County, a Democratic stronghold that includes Seattle.

"We're mostly posing questions," he said. "King County is where we saw the votes changing. King County is the one county that was allowed to take ballots that were declared dead in November and bring them back to life in December."

more: http://oregonlive.com/newsflash/national/index.ssf?/base/national-36/1104257952182120.xml&storylist=national

[Patsy Stone]

1. And the hits just keep on comin' ... They ROCK, you know?

How does one spell HYPOCRITE? Abbreviated I think it may be G-O-P.

[neverforget]

2. Sorelosermans! GET OVER IT! We need to move on for the good

of the country! :eyes: When they are on the losing end of a close election, they squeal like a stuck pig.

[fortyfeetunder]

3. Wonder if WA GOP are going door to door in King Co.?

Yeah, let them come to my house.

I will have a foaming at the mouth Doberman on the front door step wearing a spiked collar and T-shirt reading, "I VOTED FOR GREGOIRE. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?"

[uppityperson]

4. If they prove they made fraud, can they declare a revote?

Of course there was fraud, I mean, really. I think they're trying for the scenario where if the gop can prove fraud, they can ask for a revote. What if the gop shows they were involved in the fraud, they caused the fraud (which wasn't enough to swing it for Rossi)? Can they still ask for a revote?

[louis-t]

5. Keep it up, GOP

The more they squeal, the more they legitimize the court challenges.

[kurtyboy]

6. Utter Crap---King County is 14th (of 39) most error prone

"We're mostly posing questions," he said. "King County is where we saw the votes changing. King County is the one county that was allowed to take ballots that were declared dead in November and bring them back to life in December."

See this thread I started in the Washington forum for more details:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=184x2627

On a percentage basis, King County was in the middle-third of accuracy in terms of the number of "discrepancies" between the second machine count and the manual recount.

13 counties had a higher percentage of "discrepancies" than King---
Asotin .174%
Franklin .158%
Pierce .144%
Kitsap .137%
Okanogan .118%
Adams .098%
Mason .092%
Skamania .081%
Walla Walla .079%
Yakima .076%
Jefferson .076%
Snohomish .070%
Grays Harbor .065%
King .063%


Of these counties, Eight favored Rossi (Asotin, Franklin, Kitsap, Okanogan, Mason, Skamania, Walla Walla, Yakima) and five favored Gregoire--None were neutral, in net votes.

Only five counties, statewide, were unchanged in count from the second machine to the manual (Ferry, Garfield, Kittitas, Klickitat, and Lincoln) and they represent just 1.25% of the state's votes.

NOT ONE SINGLE COUNTY'S TALLY remains unchanged from the first machine count--not even those relying on touchscreens.

NOT ONE!!

Recounts are good. They are more accurate. I wish we'd have been able to use them in Florida in 2000....

EDIT TO ADD:

King County ends with one of the most clean counts in the state--.009%--only the five counties with zero changes, and Chelan county with .003%, outperformed King, without the extra votes added.

And Gregoire still won, by that reckoning, by ten votes.

The GOP is barking up the wrong tree by blaming King Co, and Chris Vance really has his head up his ass by claiming fraud. If King County committed fraud, they certainly would have done it in a more spectacular fashion than one vote out of every 11,769--that is what their discrepancies ratio works out to in this scenario (The security of the "new" votes has never been in question...).

Asotin County, mentioned above, "found" five new net votes for Rossi (actually ten, and five for Gregoire) in their manual recount--a ratio of one vote discrepancy out of every 576. Let's send the detectives over there!! (Kidding, of course).

If GOP ranters complain about King County making stuff up, fling the facts at 'em! They hate facts, and they usually pipe-down when confronted by them...

[stevedeshazer]

9. And of those counties,

I'd guess that Pierce and maybe Jefferson counties are the only ones with a Democratic plurality. :shrug:

[kurtyboy]

13. Almost--Jefferson and Grays Harbor were the only Dem

Pierce went to Rossi in a big way, by 12,500 votes. In fact, Rossi won the vote total in the first thirteen counties by 57,791--with 1007 total discrepancies. This is almost DOUBLE King County's discrepancy total of 553. And the average discrepancy rate for the first thirteen-- .108%, compared to King County at .063%. Yeah, Chris Vance, you frigin' loser, King County sure looks like the place to start hunting for votes! BTW, the first thriteen have a bigger voting population than King, 935,943 to 876,452.

But the GOP are building a case for the local echo chamber MSM to bleat back to the public---never mind the facts. Trouble is, the local press has not completely taken the bait--yet.

King County ran a good election under more intense scrutiny than any other county in the state. Now the GOP is fishing for a couple of hundred different votes to contest--so they can get their runoff.

It shorewoulda been nice if Al Gore had had the same opportunity four years ago....

What the Dems ought to do locally is hunt down a few of the same in the bigger (population) GOP counties--Pierce, Snohomish, Kitsap, and Yakima. Yakima will be the most promising, I should think, with their utter reliance on touchscreen voting. With enough countering evidence, the waters will be muddy enough that eventually the courts will rule that a certain level of discrepancies are to be expected, and no amount of runooffs and recounts can remedy the situation.

Cut it off where the law already does--call it a day after the manual recount.

[burn the bush]

7. do they have to wait for those books til the 6th like we do in ohio? n/t

[Vidar]

8. Trade it for the Ohio poll books.

[0rganism]

10. The Silver Lining: GOP finally decided it wants to count all the votes

If they would make a habit of this, maybe we'd get some real election reform coming down the pipe.

[maxsolomon]

11. suck it chris vance

who's the whiney bitch now? you lost, get over it! move on, GOP LOSERS, & support governor gregoire without one complaint, or you're unpatriotic state of washington-haters. she wants to reach out to everyone who shares her goals, just like president presenile dementia.

i love this liberal bias: "Republican Dino Rossi, an affluent former state senator". THAT is the way you say it, everytime. go oregonlive!

[Supersedeas]

12. and the MSM isn't yelling WHINER, odd how the shoe doesn't fit the other

foot.


GOPers are just being deligient.

Dems are Sore Losermen.

[Moderator]

14. Duplicate

Please continue discussion here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1102434