Swedish pastor disowns US hate site

[Judi Lynn]

Published: 7th January 2005 13:41 BST+1

Swedish pastor disowns US hate site

The suffering of “filthy, faggot Swedes” in the South East Asia disaster was punishment from God for Sweden’s tolerant attitude toward homosexuality. This is how a website owned by an influential Christian extremist movement in Kansas has reported Swedes’ suffering in the tsunami disaster.

Now a pastor in the Pentacostalist Church in Sweden who is hailed as a hero on the site has condemned it as appalling.

Åke Green, a pastor in Borgholm on Öland, is currently appealing a ruling by a court in Kalmar, which sentenced him to one month in prison under Swedish hate crimes legislation. Green had been prosecuted for using a number of anti-gay Bible passages in a sermon.

The court’s ruling has made some evangelical Christians view Green as a martyr – and Sweden as a pariah land. The website godhatessweden.com, owned by the Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas, intersperses praise for Åke Green with comments on the tsunami such as “we pray for all 20,000 Swedes in the tsunami’s wake to be declared dead.”
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http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=818&date=20050107

[Dhalgren]

1. I am sure that Jayzuz is real proud

of Westboro Baptist Church. 'Cuz, you know, Jayzuz was big on hatin' them what is sinnin'...

[GOPBasher]

9. Yeah, he hates everyone except

white, straight, evangelicals in the American Bible Belt.

[stopping by]

31. And I doubt that many of those white straight evangelicals like him

Phelps has put messages on his website saying that Pat Tillman and Ronald Reagan are in Hell right now. That's not a good way to win friends and influence people on the right.

Phelps seems to be the master of getting everyone mad. His website looks like a cry for help.

[Autobot77]

35. He also called Billy Graham a fraud and a false prophet

Plus his church protested during Mr. Rogers death because they claimed Mr Rogers didn't do enough to teach kids about the " evils of homosexuality"

[Chipper Chat]

45. Michael Savage did the same thing on his radio show

THE VERY DAY Rogers died. What an insensitive bastard.

[GOPBasher]

50. Hey,

welcome to DU! :hi:

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. INFLUENTIAL???

As a native Kansan, that remark disgusts me as much as Phelps' remarks.

Trust me, we know this man is NUTZ. We have lived with him for many years now. We saw those horrible signs of his long before the rest of the country and the rest of the world did. And he is not the least bit INFLUENTIAL!!!

:puke:

My apologies to the Swedes for Phelps' insensitive remarks. Let them remember there is a special place in hell for Fred Phelps.

[tuvor]

6. Phelps has influence.

Phelps has influence, even if it's only over nutjobs. By definition, that makes him influential.

[proud2BlibKansan]

16. I don't know anyone

who thinks he is anything but nutz. And I am right down the road from Topeka.

[tuvor]

23. I am glad for you.

But that doesn't mean there aren't wingnuts over whom he has influence.

[teenagebambam]

26. Not that I'm sticking up for nuts...

...but Phelps' "church" consists entirely of members of his own family, over whom he apparently holds a svengali-like power. Even crazy fundies think he's crazy.

[proud2BlibKansan]

41. really - not many

His family is huge and they make up the bulk of his following. The people of Topeka ignore him, the media ignores him. Those of us who live around him have learned to ignore him. If you don't, there's hell to pay - to put it mildly.

[bunkerbuster1]

14. As one born in "bleeding Kansas," I feel your pain.

I am horrified by what gets out to the national media about my beloved state. I know that there are many good, decent people there who are appalled by this particular pig.

And I want to remind DUers that it was Kansans who first took up arms and stood up to fascist slaveowners, while namby-pambies in their New England ivory towers were still just jabbering about 'em. (Ok, I oversimplify a bit, but you get my drift.) I believe this state can and will redeem itself and rediscover its progressive roots one day.

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. Hey that's another 'family secret' ssshhhh!!

John Brown was pretty crazy too. I am still surprised his painting is in the state capitol.

I think we need to stick to Jayhawk basketball. Can't go wrong there. They are still undefeated!!

Where in KS are you from?

[bunkerbuster1]

19. John Brown? Not crazy, methinks.

A violent thug, but IIRC the "crazy" rep comes more from testimony his abolitionist supporters offered during his trial. They were hoping to spare his life if they had him framed as a delusional mofo unaware of his actions. Am I remembering right?

Seems to me he knew damn well what he was doing.

As to my personal KS whereabouts, please check your messages.

[proud2BlibKansan]

21. He was a murderer

and a pretty violent guy. Great cause, noble beliefs, but a bit extreme.

Unless you think deliberately crossing the state line to murder slave owners is okay.

[daleo]

25. That might depend on who your ancestors were.

Slaves or slave owners. Or perhaps neither, which would be the majority of people.

Was Spartacus a murderer or a revolutionary?

[proud2BlibKansan]

40. Both Spartacus and John Brown

were anarchists.

[FredScuttle]

38. I think travelling back in time to kill slave owners is pretty cool

- Dave Chappelle

[Chipper Chat]

3. I hope Sweden invades Kansas !

Capture this m*f* and haul his ass back to Sweden for whatever crime you want to charge him with. Hell, we do that here to Muslims (it's called the Patriot Act).

[izzie]

8. I loved that -----

Odd world we are in.

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. Fine by me

I can skip over the state line to MO in the event of a Swedish invasion:)

[StuckinKS]

20. Man! This sucks!

Being in Wichita, if Sweden invades, I'll likely have to head to Oklahoma. That's worse than staying put. I'll just have to join the Swedes in capturing and torturing Phelps, ignoring those "quaint" Geneva Convention rules.

[sleipnir]

32. They've already got Lindburg, AKA "Little Sweden".

It's about 200 hundred miles away in Central Kansas. Perhaps the Swedish government can get their old citizens out and arrest the fucker Phelps soon. An invasion from within!

[RedCloud]

34. Kansas or Caan's Ass?

BTW didn't Cuba already invade Kansas and take Dorothy?

[JVS]

37. Don't forget the Fighting Swedes of Lindsborg KS

Seriously though, shit talking against Swedes might not be a smart move in the northern parts of the Midwest.

May Phelps be haunted by visons of Gustavus Adolphus, the Lion of the North

[Ganja Ninja]

4. The only time Jesus ever came close to violence was ...

when he threw the money changers out of the temple. As far as I know he never threw any "filthy, faggot Swedes" out of the temple.

[Moloch]

5. Anything that gives Phelps publicity is GREAT!

He is the best gift the gay rights movement could have and anyone who witnesses his vitorol reassesses their own homophobic feelings!

:kick:

[The Backlash Cometh]

7. kick

[NYC]

10. godhatessweden.com?

It isn't enough he has godhatesfags?

Where does Phelps get his money? What is his source of income?

[Chipper Chat]

11. His newsletters are in every fundie nursing home.

Many rich residents are eager to give him thousands for his "cause."

[NYC]

12. That's terrible,

but thanks for informing me.

[genieroze]

28. This is a Phelps site? Read this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2917512

[NYC]

39. Somewhere, they must cross the line beyond

free speech. They don't seem to say, "go kill _______ (fill in enemy)". They just say god did it. I guess that is how they get away with it.

But, why does a radio program let them on the air? (The link you provided.)

These people are bigots, but who sees bigots as entertaining?

[genieroze]

44. Other bigots?

:shrug:

[skippythwndrdog]

13. That site is hysterical.

If I didn't know better, I'd think it was a joke. I really have to laugh AT this ass.

[bunkerbuster1]

15. A little like listening to Michael Savage, no?

Sometimes I let myself believe that at least some of these guys are playing a huge, very sick joke for money/glory.

[skippythwndrdog]

43. I think it is a big joke.

This clown with the website has to be doing it for the money. I just can't fathom any other way. What an ass.

[gatorboy]

24. Is that site down?

I couldn't get it to pop up for me...

[xchrom]

22. sigh

what can you say?

[Hillary08]

46. I keep looking

but I can't find the "Go ye forth and hate the sinners" verse anywhere...

[genieroze]

27. Don't shut them down, let the word see what narrow minded, bigoted,

morons they are. This is great the Religious Reich at it's best or worst.

[leesa]

29. I guess this POS wants to have the corner on the hate market in Sweden

May they all rot in hell.

[genieroze]

30. Darn, both sites are down. I wanted to see what morons look like. eom

[genieroze]

33. Here is the cached version

Did you know he has a mirror site called godhatesamerica.com. On the cached page under see our mirror site. Isn't that name unAmerican therefor unpatriotic, therefor terrorist? Hey, what's good for the goose and all. These flag waving fundies hate America but love *? I always knew these people were anti American in their hearts and souls just like * is.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:6zbIxG60EugJ:www.godhatesfags.com/+&hl=en&start=1

[bobthedrummer]

36. Cult mind control layered over primal forces by Calvinists.

:puke:

[Chovexani]

42. Fred Phelps is a cult leader

"Westboro Baptist Church" is actually just Fred and his extended family. A journalist did a thorough expose on Fred and his cult a few years ago and if you thought these people were sick before, that article will make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. I've long since lost the link (and forgot who wrote it), but Google will probably turn it up. It's definitely a must-read.

Edit: Good ol' Google. Here's a link: http://www.drizzle.com/~slmndr/salamandir/pubs/fred_phelps.html

[ashmanonar]

47. holy mother of god

i can't even read anymore...it's sickening..."But at 6'4" and 280 pounds, it would be...instructive...to see father and son in the same room today with one mattock stick between them."...can we see this happen, please? i want to see the 280 pound Nate Phelps pound the holy shit out of the asshole...

gods below...

[struggle4progress]

48. Fred "God Hates Nearly Everybody" Phelps has been a busy little ...

... blasphemer:

www.godhatefags.com
www.godhatesamerica.com
www.godhatessweden.com

And this message of love and forgiveness really does seem to be sweeping the nation:

Shrimp, crab, lobster, clams, mussels, all these are an abomination before the Lord, just as gays are an abomination. Why stop at protesting gay marriage? Bring all of God's law unto the heathens and the sodomites. We call upon all Christians to join the crusade against Long John Silver's and Red Lobster. Yea, even Popeye's shall be cleansed. The name of Bubba shall be anathema. We must stop the unbelievers from destroying the sanctity of our restaurants.

http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/

[Vektor]

49. Wow, what a sick puppy.

This person must be mentally deranged to say such sick, irrational things.