Poll: Bush's approval rating climbs (CNN/USA Today)

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/10/poll/index.html

President Bush got high marks for his handling of the tsunami disaster, and his job approval rating went up in a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Monday, but most of those surveyed had doubts about his call to overhaul Social Security.

Bush's job approval rating went up to 52 percent in the poll, which was conducted Friday through Sunday in phone calls to 1,008 adult Americans. That's an improvement of 3 percentage points from the last CNN poll, taken in mid-December.

Another 44 percent said they disapproved of his job performance, down 2 percentage points from the December 17-19 survey. The latest poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Bush got his highest marks in a year on his handling of the economy, with 50 percent of those polled saying they approved of his performance.

<snip>

But only 42 percent of those surveyed said they approved of his handling of the war in Iraq, and 56 percent disapproved.

[Sannum]

1. How Conveeeeeniant.

[merwin]

2. Now THAT is fucked up! High marks for his handling of the tsunami?

He did the worst handling that anyone could have possibly done!

[TexanDem]

14. I have one word for this breaking news! -- PROPAGANDA!

lies, lies, lies! oops -- that's more than one -- sorry. couldn't help myself...:argh:

[struggle4progress]

69. Bush Approval on Iraq Dips; Economy Approval Up Slightly

<snip> In addition to the economy, Bush's ratings are also closely divided for the environment, taxes, and foreign affairs: 47% to 49% approve of his job performance in these areas, and 45% to 49% disapprove. <snip>

Bush's approval rating for his handling of the Iraq situation is now 42%, down from 47% in early November. Approval of Bush on Iraq is now comparable to the record low levels seen last spring, coincident with the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal and a period of heavy U.S. casualties in Iraq. <snip>

These results are based on telephone interviews with a randomly selected national sample of 1,008 adults, aged 18 and older, conducted Jan. 7-9, 2005. For results based on this sample, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum error attributable to sampling and other random effects is ±3 percentage points. <snip>

http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=14599


WARNING OF A CRISIS
Hoping to rally support for private investment of Social Security funds, Bush tries to convince a crowd that the system is broken without them

BY TAMI LUHBY
STAFF WRITER
January 12, 2005

<snip> About 55 percent of those surveyed said it's a bad idea to allow private accounts if guaranteed benefits are reduced. Only 18 percent of those surveyed think the Social Security system is in a crisis, according to the poll, which was sponsored by USA Today and CNN.

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzbush124112205jan12,0,1339296.story?coll=ny-business-headlines

[EndElectoral]

78. Economy? The Trade Deficit just hit an all time record high!

[DrCorday]

81. since when did facts matter?

Actually, the economy is doing better, but it's far from good. The bounce is also pretty anemic because the dollar keeps losing ground, making the recovery little more than an investor-generated anticipation of a "bottom" that isn't materializing.

Compared to the Clinton era, the economy still sucks.

So long as we didn't ENTIRELY ignore the tsunami, he'd get somewhat of a bounce from that. He got a huge bounce off 9/11 regardless of the fact it was totally an accident of, if not propagated by, the administration's laziness.

It's like sharing an umbrella with someone you don't like only because it's raining. The fact they exist at that particular makes them appear somewhat more competent, but not really.

[Atman]

3. Plus or minus three points

So in reality, his approval rating COULD BE unchanged. Or even lower.

Bullshit. Bullshit BullshitBullshitBullshitBullshitBullshitBullshitBullshit that anyone thinks this dolt is getting BETTER!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

4. OK..that article is textbook cognitive dissonance

unless they meant it climbed out of the TOILET...half the fucking country HATES THIS ASSHOLE

[Cha]

5. I don't believe a word of

this..except the SS part..who did they poll..the assholes who are contributing to his perverted galas?

On edit~ Oh, and did they poll on Iraq?

[goclark]

6. CNN could not tell the truth if they were paid

Oops they are payola pals and they will take every opportunity to whore for the Chimp.

No way did his approval go up after he turtled on the $$$$ for the victims.

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[Gloria]

21. Once the army got involved....trust me, 'Muricans love to see the

army coming to the rescue.

[deadparrot]

8. Who gives a shit? It'll be back down in a couple days...

not to mention, that's still pathetically low for someone who was recently "re-elected" with a mandate.

And that's only if the polls are accurate.

[jdj]

9. "handling of the tsunami distaster"????????? WTF?

WTF did he handle, except probably himself, for four days?

[bunkerbuster1]

48. A chainsaw

He was busy "clearing brush," remember?

[Catherine Vincent]

10. What the hell did he do regarding the tsunami?

This is fucked up.

[HomerRamone]

24. What the hell did he do on 9/11? n/t

[Vox_Reason]

11. Thanks to handjobbing by whore press, Bush ratings rise

I'm sure the free-and-clear pass * got from the lapdog press over his bungling of the tsunami disaster didn't have anything to do with his rising poll numbers.

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[merwin]

12. Leave it to the 'liberal' media to give props to * n/t

[teryang]

13. Yeah sure, everyone loves the great leader

The ruthless war monger and bellicose tyrant revealed his true colors then rapidly about faced for PR reasons.


You can pile it up and you can brush it off, but you just can't shine shit.

[forintegrity]

15. I don't believe polls anymore

After all, we're told the election exit polls were all wrong, so why would I believe this?

Sounds like another whore job to me! Corporate media makes up whatever they want us to believe at any given moment. I'm insulted that they would think I'm so stupid.

Besides...who gives a rats ass what the polls say? I know what I think about the little bastard and I could care less about their precious little polls!!!

[buff2]

16. No need to get excited,folks.

CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll is always higher than any other poll. Paid whores for the bu$h thugs.You can't believe this poll.....ever. :hi:

[SOS]

58. Exactly

After witnessing Daryn Kagan taking her on-air direction directly from the White House, followed by Kyra Phillips doing the same, why would anyone take a CNN poll seriously?
Their senior political analyst signs PNAC documents and the Time/ Warner CEO is a maxed-out Bush contributor.
CNN is an outlet for WH propaganda. Nothing more.

[shanti]

60. paid is right

the cat is out of the bag. we can't afford to believe ANYTHING they say anymore.

[latteromden]

17. What's frightening is I don't know what to believe anymore. Gallup was

CLOSE this year for the election, but I thought they always oversampled Republicans... I don't know what to think about polling anymore. :X

[Cookie wookie]

45. Perhaps think stolen election

[texastoast]

18. What a crock

Joblessness, outsourcing continues, and he gets an even 50% for handling the economy?

Over 1300 dead, over 10,000 wounded for a war based on lies, lies, lies.

Bull effing shit. 52% of the pollees are brain dead.

[rooboy]

19. Armstrong/Williams poll has * at 52% as well. n/t

[Gloria]

20. High marks because he got Clinton to bail him out????

Sh***t

[bamacrat]

22. Not surprising it all works in the master plan

[maddogesq]

23. Good grief, slick Willie's rating way higher after impeachment.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/20/impeachment.poll/

<snip>
Poll: Clinton's approval rating up in wake of impeachment
December 20, 1998
Web posted at: 10:48 p.m. EST (0348 GMT)
(AllPolitics, December 20) -- In the wake of the House of Representatives' approval of two articles of impeachment, Bill Clinton's approval rating has jumped 10 points to 73 percent, the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll shows.

That's not only an all-time high for Clinton, it also beats the highest approval rating President Ronald Reagan ever had.
<endus snippus>

Common people, get real. 52 percent means I have another 2 days of feeling bound up. This presidentcy is meaningless if our guys exercise the power of the masses.

[RamboLiberal]

33. I think Bush Bounce was actually a Big Dog Bounce

from naming Clinton with Poppy to raise funds. I think people enjoyed seeing a real president again and gave * some kudos for the pairing.

[gatorboy]

34. Heh!!! 73% approval during the impeachment hearings???

Oh, Lawd! No wonder the Repugs hate Big Dawg so much! He beat the great savior, Reagan! LOL!

[Erika]

25. People want to find some reason

to justify their stupid vote for him. But they want to buy off their conscience towards our troops dying daily in Iraq by voting against him in that area. I guess they have their priorities slightly screwed up.

[Skittles]

26. gawd are the American people idiots or what?

nt

[agincourt]

27. Doesn't matter what his poll ratings are now,

as he won't be up for re-election, nor unfortunately, does he ever have to worry about being impeached.

[Patchuli]

59. Why do you say that?

Richard M. Nixon was riding high after his 1972 re-election and less than two years later he was on my TV resigning his job due to Watergate (to much cheering!)

It's happened before and frankly, I couldn't think of a better person to get pulled down than *. Since when is consensual nookie worse than starting an illegal war?????????!

[agincourt]

63. Completely different congress,

and law enforcement people. Bush is like the old pedophile in Chinatown, he owns the cops. Nixon had power and a cabal of thugs like Liddy, but he didn't own the system lock, stock and barrel. Too many people who will cover his ass.

[Patchuli]

83. I know

but it's going to fall, just like the house of cards it is. Corruption starts to eat itself away before too long.

Call me a doofus but I still have enough faith in Americans to believe that even those with blinders on will be forced to see the truth before too long. Unless you are filthy rich in this country, you are going to be impacted seriously and negatively by this monster's policies.

I never thought I would miss Nixon!

[bluestateguy]

28. Good for him. An increase within the margin of error.

Baby Bush better saddle up. He's going to have a most difficult second term, as most second term presidents usually do.

[Davis_X_Machina]

29. MOE on a 1000-respondent poll...

...is like ~3%, right?

And he moved up from 49% to 52%?

What are the chances there was no movement at all?

What scares me is that a lot of the 56% who disapprove of Junta Boy's handling of the war are not exactly pacifists. I'm willing to bet that a good 15% of that slice of the respondents only disapprove because he hasn't nuked Mecca yet.

[leesa]

30. Ahhh the lies begin again...how much do you suppose we the people

pay for these "feel good" polls?

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[saracat]

32. Why would we even read a CNN Poll?

[daleo]

35. These changes are within the margin of error.

So really, there is nothing here.

[flygal]

36. He never left his ranch and the American people "approve" - WTF?!

[HuffleClaw]

37. liberal media my foot

*blech* what a piece of biased crap. i swear, they would report bush having sex with a sheep on the white house lawn as 'bush demonstrates commitment to sheep industry'

"only 42 percent of those surveyed said they approved of his handling of the war in Iraq, and 56 percent disapproved."

[pinniped]

38. Straight out of Bizarro World...which is where roughly half...

of the people in this country come from.

[radfringe]

39. wonder how much the WH paid CNN for that poll?

is it real or is it MEMO-rex?

[tsuki]

40. Given Armstrong and the exit polls, can we really rely on these "polls?"

[Cooley Hurd]

41. This is a bullshit poll - Rummy's approval rating shot up 7 points...

...since December?

How Rumsfeld is handling his job as Defense Secretary (+/- 3%):
Approve - 48%
Disapprove - 46%

In December, it was 41% approve, 50% disapprove...

If this a valid, scientific poll, I'll eat my hat...:eyes:

[tngledwebb]

42. That 56% disapproval number ( for the 'war' )

was THE reason Bush lost in November, btw.

[The Backlash Cometh]

43. There they go, polling the red states again.

[0007]

44. Read this from CNN is like eating 'shit on a shingle'

[TheWatcher]

46. I find myself numb to all of this.

More than likely it is merely Propaganda, and considering the environment we now live in and find ourselves in, I would get used to this kind of thing. it isn't going to change. The Media isn't going to change. They have made their choice and they will follow thier marching orders like good little soldiers. We need to face the fact we are on our own. We have no voice in the Media to represent us, We have no leaders to represent us in our government.

Our place has been presented to us by The Powers That be as thus: Go to the Mall, Buy Your Stuff, watch your TV, shut your mouth, do what you're told, don't rock the boat, and make do with what we allow you to have. That's it.

We have each other, and we will have to start there and try and move forward.

In my opinion, objective and investigative journalism, or any journalism based in reality is pretty much finished in this country. Things will keep getting worse.

Even if there is a hint of truth in this Poll, it hardly matters. Fascism, Corporatism, whatever version of the Reich this shapes out to be is here, and it will have to play itself out now.

Our vote doesn't count, the Media is bought and paid for, The Right continues with it's insane agenda plowing headlong like a drunken Frat Boy toward whatever oblivion they have damned us to, and the leaders on our side, save for a precious few, cow and bow and say nothing.

I find myself brooding over the same question that Malloy presented in his show last night.

What is our tipping point, At what point do we simply decide we can't take anymore, and at that point, what do we do?

I honestly don't know.

What I do know is that every day now, just when I think things couldn't get more absurd, every days events trump the day before.

And the question that lingers in my mind is simple:

How long can this country go on like this?

I don't know which answer scares me more. The one where the Kharmic Hammer finally comes down for all that has happened, or the one where things simply keep drifting on with no resolution, until we literally don't know what is real or fiction anymore.

What I do know is this. This is going to end badly.

[yorkiemommie1]

70. my feelings exactly

every day there is more of what stephen king calls 'slippage'

the rw has spent years and years in laying the foundation for their takeover. they have been singleminded and determined in their purpose. They have gathered their resources, money, media and minds and have acted with force and determination to accomplish their goals. i remember the 'silent majority' ...well, that made people feel like 'victims'. ready for the propaganda. they will continue to buy into this pack of lies for years.

[Massachusetts]

47. CNN

Certainly Not News. What Moron population was polled?:wtf:

[EFerrari]

49. The whole headline was "climbs out of the toilet"

California hasn't caught up. 42% reported in the SF Chron this morning.

[Supersedeas]

55. Bush Approval takes flight....another disaster...more great political news

for the Frat Boy.

Just see how real adversity changes the little emperor into a real leader of men. Though he barely has a majority and barely because the margin of error could negate that be still--headline the story with how the Monkey's approval SOARS.

Flying Monkeys, Dorothy, Flying Monkeys.

Rove smiles behind the curtain.

[maxrandb]

50. Wonder how much they paid for this story! n/t

[GOPBasher]

51. How pathetic.

[TheDonkey]

52. 3% is an approval rating "climb"!?!?! HAHAHA

they really try to sell this chump to America everytime.

[Redstone]

53. Anybody else ever study statistics?

If you did, you'll know that:

1) The sample size is too small to have any significance as applied across the entire U.S. population.

2) When a percentage change/spread is equal to or less than the margin of error, the data is inconclusive and cannot be regarded as significant.

Redstone

[DrZeeLit]

54. Thanks. More people should remember (fondly?) their stats classes.

I always throw something when I read these statistically incorrect polls connected to statistically incorrect reading of the data.

Sheesh. Thanks for reminding readers. And if anybody cares or is "concerned" -- somebody should write a "statistics for dummies" book, or at least a guide to reading polls.

There's an idea for you.

[Redstone]

57. Thanks for the suggestion, DrZeeLit, but

who in this country would read a book about statistics, even if it were "for dummies?"

People in this country (present company excepted) have become irretrievably lazy, selfish, and ignorant, and when it comes to important matters, they have the attention span of an eight-week-old puppy.

They don't want to know nuthin' and nuthin's gonna change their minds after they've become convinced of a lie by whatever sound bite managed to get their attention.

How many times have we seen so many Americans get all riled up about the latest tempest-in-a-teapot "controversy" like the rumored "omigod, the department stores are forcing their cashiers to say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas"---when it's not even true!!

You can't reason with people like that.

But thank you for the nice words.

Redstone

[barackmyworld]

84. One of those points is right

The comparison of the sample size to the population is irrelevant. The only number that affects the margin of error is the amount of people sampled. A 1000-person sample always has a 2% (or maybe it is 3%) margin of error, no matter if the population is 2000 or 2 billion people. A 10,000-person survey would only be marginally more accurate, possibly bringing the margin of error down to 1% (I could do the calcuations, but it's not necessary)

I agree that people overemphasize survey results when the margin of error is close to the difference. These results barely mean anything.

[Selwynn]

56. Numbers always go up during a) a world tragedy b) during innaguration

[The_Casual_Observer]

61. This has got to be one of the dumbest things I've seen in a while

Out of a carefully selected 1000 people he gains 3%. Wow! this is really big news.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

62. Not in Maryland.....

Marylanders say Iraq war not worth deaths, dollars
Toll of conflict is pulling down approval of Bush
By Stephanie Desmon
Sun Staff
Originally published January 11, 2005
A majority of Maryland voters do not think the war in Iraq is worth the number of U.S. military casualties and the billions of dollars being spent, according to a Sun Poll released this week.

The poll showed that 35 percent of those likely voters surveyed thought the war was worth it, while 56 percent did not - an outcome more negative than a recent national sampling.

(snip)

Overall, the president's approval rating in Maryland continued its steady decline from the January 2002 poll - just months after the Sept. 11 attacks when more than eight out of 10 state voters said they approved of his job performance.

Just 47 percent of Maryland voters approve of the job he is doing now, while 48 percent disapprove. In 2002, 83 percent of Maryland voters polled approved of the job Bush was doing, while just 9 percent disapproved.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/politics/bal-te.md.poll11jan11001639,1,6868659.story?coll=bal-home-headlines

[chomskysright]

64. WHERE ARE THE ?'S THAT WERE ASKED?

Don't trust the garbage about polls: KNOW WHAT THE QUESTIONS WERE THAT WERE POSED.

[w4rma]

65. It appears that about 3 percent of this nation keeps swinging back and

forth on this guy every time there is a disaster.

[Rainscents]

66. It's bunch of CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are living in HITLER erra!!! When is all this crap is going to end???????????? America need to wake up from beauty sleep and start fighting now!!!

[BrklynLiberal]

67. WHAT!!!!!!!?????????????????

President Bush got high marks for his handling of the tsunami disaster,

:wtf:

Am I in some sort of parallel reality or something? His reaction was to "clear brush" on his "ranch" for 4 days before issuing any statement at all!!!!!!!!!! How could he get high marks for that???!!!

[gatorboy]

75. He was busy pondering the situation..

You know...working the angles....He's a thinker...you know that!

[Piperay]

68. They kicked those polls up just because the idiot

has his coronation next week. If he was down in the polls they're afraid they would get the blame and lose their prime spot in the viewing area. x(

[sakabatou]

71. Doesn't really give clear cut polling

Ho wmany where progressive/conservative? Who was democrat/republican?

What is the breakdown?

[bushisanidiot]

72. President Dumbass does jackshit (once again) when lives are in danger

and he pays the pundits to say he's a hero.

sorry, rove.. but Armstrong EXPOSED your asses. We're not buying your crap.

[TankLV]

73. When is is/was DOWN - all we see/hear is

silence.

When THEY say it is back up - it's FRONT PAGE NEWS!

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we heard this all BEFORE THE ELECTION.

Interesting how Kerry's 52% was considered STRUGGLING, isn't it?

[fearnobush]

74. CNN and Gallup - God made us do it.

Gallup is run and owned by right winged (anti)christ-ian Fundies.

[burn the bush]

76. well, i guess we know who else is getting payola

[okieinpain]

77. wow the man with a mandate is at 52%. man he's loved by the

people isn't he. wait until six months after the iraqi election, 2000 dead soldiers, talk of a draft, another dip of the economy(clintons fault) and he will be around 43%.

[tomkertes]

79. Why we need to keep going hard on him. n/t

[Deja Q]

80. Oh, the ever-vigilant Americans are praising their ever-vigilant presinut.

No shock here.

[leesa]

82. Pre-emptive BS for the final NO WMDs report.