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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:40 AM
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Bush Makes Progress in Halving Deficit
*that's the published title

WASHINGTON - One guiding star in the $2.5 trillion budget that President Bush (news - web sites) ships Congress next month will be his goal of cutting the federal deficit in half by 2009.

Bush first proclaimed that objective in his spending plan last year. That was months before the 2004 federal budget shortfall came in at a record — but less than expected — $412 billion.
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Last year's deficit was $35 billion worse than in 2003. Yet administration officials say they made big progress toward reaching their target.

That's because White House budget chief Joshua Bolten defined their starting point as the $521 billion deficit for 2004 that the administration projected a year ago.

Since the actual 2004 shortfall ended up at $412 billion, the White House claims it made progress to the tune of $109 billion. It also let them set a bigger deficit target for 2009: $260.5 billion, which is half of $521 billion.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050113/ap_on_go_co/halving_the_deficit_q_a

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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:44 AM
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1. Smoke in Mirrors
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:45 AM
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2. There's no "L" in 'having'
n/t

Tut-tut
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flobee1kenobi Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:49 AM
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5. This is just sad
The deficit isn't as bad as we thought it was going to be-so thats progress?
I call it luck and stupidity!
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:44 AM
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19. What they do is overestimate the deficit, and then when it is less than//
the over-estimate, they can say, ahh haa, we made progress...

:P
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:50 AM
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15. Except in English
Edited on Thu Jan-13-05 09:50 AM by Jeff in Cincinnati
Halve (v.) divide by two. divide into halves; "Halve the cake"
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:41 AM
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17. I think he meant
we have the deficit; Bush* has no desire to half it. :)
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:01 AM
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23. Let's hope so...
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:48 AM
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3. I'm sure the numbers will all be corrupt
When you shine a light on them. Miserable failure.
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marmadogg Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:49 AM
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4. Shrub made progress if you ignore...
...the fact that they used the Social Security surplus to know down the deficit.

Buck Fush!
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:54 AM
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6. They are claiming progress based on projections.
If this is accepted as a viable argument, why not make up some outrageous projection numbers for next year?
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sleepyhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:55 AM
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7. You beat me to it.
This is disgusting. They are disgusting.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:57 AM
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8. So if I predict that I
am going to eat an entire banana cream pie tonight and I really only eat half a pie, have I made progress on my diet?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:00 AM
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9. I'm gonna try that!
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:01 AM
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10. So the deficit is going down if you ignore the actual deficit.
Pure Bushshit. If one assumes that the 2004 deficit could have been one trillion dollars, Bush already has reduced the deficit by almost 60%.
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Lucille Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:24 AM
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11. AP has changed the headline to reflect the content of the article
The article shows how Josh Bolten changed the starting point of the deficit and based it on more pessimistic projections, thus allowing WH to claim "progress," when in fact there has been no progress.

AP lays the BS out for all to see, though it is buried in the middle of the article. Yet someone concoted a headline that's just as deceptive as the WH.

Now the headline reads:

Critics Call Bush's Deficit Efforts Feeble

Curious.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:38 AM
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14. Thanks- that really was the title when I posted it
They change them all the time- they should have to make a note of that.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:51 AM
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21. Changing the headline to reflect poorly on Bush means only one thing
A Paola Pundit wannabee didn't get the expected check from the White House...
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:53 AM
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22. Fire The Person Who Revised Title...For Telling The Truth n/t
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:27 AM
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12. Joshua Bolten--another name to remember in the fleecing of 'Merica
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:29 AM
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13. Seems like fuzzy math to me!
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:32 AM
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16. This is pathetic.
Hello? We're still adding to the NATIONAL DEBT (the real issue) at record rates. Halving the DEFICIT is not good enough; we need to balance the budget and start paying down the debt.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:42 AM
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18. LOL it is-Guess outrageously high and then take credit for being so wrong
God people eat this crap up.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:45 AM
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20. Exactly!
It's like saying, "Hey mom, remember when I thought I was going to get a 16 in math? Well, I got that up to a whopping 25! Woohoo! Now I know one quarter of the material.
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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:38 PM
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24. Feeble isn't the word I'd use.
*'s deficits spin out of control, we spend untold billions on Iraq/Halliburton, and aspire to borrow $2 Trillion in startup costs to "privatize" SS.

As Rome burns, * fiddles...

The rest of the federal budget faces harsh cuts to trim *'s deficit. Good-bye to roads, schools, bridges and any infrastructure improvements we might have had. Also wave bye-bye to government services. Say Hello to user fees attached to everything.

The word is CRIMINAL
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radric Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:42 PM
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25. Orwell would understand this administration...
completely.
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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 01:01 PM
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28. "Orwellian" is an apt description.
These are indeed evil people.

In addition, they are certain of their "rightness" and their right to imposed their will based on the incredible (read non-credible) mandate. Repeat after me...

Four more years? Simple. We must fight at every level.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:49 PM
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26. cooking the books, Enron style
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:52 PM
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27. This was reported here before..
but I'm glad you posted again in case someone missed it. Evil, evil people.
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