Dems Tell Bush To Lay Off Gays

[davidinalameda]

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/01/011405bushDNC.htm

The Democratic Party launched a petition Friday telling the White House not to push for a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

The DNC in its Pride at the Polls newsletter to more than 100,000 party supporters calls on President Bush to abandon his call for the amendment and to tell House Majority Leader Tom Delay to " stop discriminating against Americans."

DeLay (R-Texas) has made it clear that it's at the top of the Republican legislative agenda, warning, "We will come back and come back until this is passed." (story)


oh my gods--someone has developed a backbone at the DNC

here's the link to the petition

http://www.democrats.org/glbt/action/200501130001.html?psc=web

[aikido15]

1. Finally...

Dems speak out!

[gWbush is Mabus]

4. let's see what happens in '06 and '08

[aikido15]

6. Let's hope there's something to see...

:eyes: I'm guilty of pessimism about Dems

[nibbana]

29. It's headlines in the "left" wing media as we speak..(sarcasm)

[GOPBasher]

2. I'm glad they're standing up for this.

[Mojambo]

3. I'll wait and see about the spine

It's easy to TELL the bully to stop hitting you. It's much harder to punch that fascist fuck right in the face when he doesn't.

[aikido15]

8. ROFL

so true..so true...

[Gemini Cat]

14. That's for sure!

It gets tiresome when they always wear the white party gloves when the boxing gloves would be so much better.

[AndyTiedye]

32. Especially When Your Arms Are Tied Behind Your Back

> It's easy to TELL the bully to stop hitting you. It's much harder to
> punch that fascist fuck right in the face when he doesn't.

The Dems' ability to "hit back" at this point consists of...

[Mojambo]

41. Filibuster hard, Filibuster fast and Filibuster long..

And if the Republicans attempt to re-write the rules, take EVERY measure (lawful or not) to stop them. If those rules fall, the Democrats should refuse to show up, or better yet show up and physically take action.

The pure realization of fascism is precariuosly close. I now require the few remaining representatives I have to act as though they see the danger too. State sponsored propaganda everywhere, government agencies being cleansed of dissent, rampant nationalism and social conservatism, and perpetual warfare. These are becoming desperate times...

I don't think the majority of the Democratic party "gets" how close we are to boiling over into a fascist superpower.

The bully is going to be hitting harder, and soon.

[Ian David]

5. Who did we have to blow to get this done?

It's about time!

Now, we just have to get them to stop suppressing the black vote, and maybe we'll have a REAL Democracy!

[Ian David]

9. Hey, I see Mission Control!

It should be soon!


Ooops. That was in the wrong thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1151147#1151619

[geomon666]

7. The story isn't finished.

It doesn't tell us how loud the laughter was in response.

"Um...president bush...could you please not ban gays from marrying each other?" "....PWAHAHAHAHAHA! Get out." "Yes sir."

[WMliberal]

10. should work. Bush knows how to make Americans "laid off"

[Cocoa]

11. sounds like just a fundraising letter

and for the people saying "finally," where have you been? The DNC has been against the gay marriage amendment from the beginning of the dem presidential primaries.

[keopeli]

16. In theory, you're right, but in action, the Dems have been deficient

[meti57b]

12. Had to read that title twice ... to "lay off" means to let go from the job

when there's not enough work for everyone.

[VegasWolf]

15. LOL. Dems want bush to fire all gays? n/t

[keopeli]

13. This makes me lose more faith in the Dem party

Why? Because this action should have been taken BEFORE the election. It's been a year since Bush* launched his Gay Bashing Ammendment. By waiting until now, when the Repubs no longer need the Ammendment charge to steel their base, the Dems tacitly endorse this tactic.

It's a crying shame.

[Rainscents]

17. What about bi-sex???

I never understood... Why, GOP is going after Gay and not Bi?? Bi's have sex with men too! So, GOP is saying, Bi is acceptable? What a bunch of F@#kin Hypocrites!!!

[Zhade]

22. Actually, since they don't think people are born gay...

...they probably subscribe to the ridiculous notion that bisexuals (like myself) don't actually exist, and are just "eager for attention" or "trying to stand out" and "have our cake and eat it too".

Sadly, I've even heard that tripe from some DEMS - and gay men! - I know...

[Rainscents]

26. I agree...

I always supported any sexual oriented, color, disability and nationality. GOP really discuss me.

[BR_Parkway]

24. Probably, look how many of them are secretly bi and married too

[Cocoa]

18. where were you during the election?

the DNC did take a clear position against this amendment.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

20. Um..the Dems DID take a position against the amendment before the election

Does anyone at this NEWS SITE read the news?

[Rainscents]

21. Where have you been???

DEMS did speak out on this issue before the election!!!

[LTRS]

35. LOL, they "speak" and that's ALL they do

Unfortunately, as usual, they are very short on action. They could have mustered up about 2 or 3 moderate repugs and passed some of many, many pieces of LGBT legislation when they had 49-51 in the senate. Even if they lost it would have been admirable and showed they had some spine. If they EVER did things like that they wouldn't be in the minority because more people would vote for them.

But they don't have any spine. And they got con lite (aka DLC) running things anyway. Sucks, but there you have it.

[keopeli]

31. Yes, the Dems took a stand at some point, but that's not the point

The point is that they allowed Bush* to use this issue in spite of the fact that it is extremely unpopular. Did they hold his feet to the fire? I don't believe so. The Dems have (mostly) been enablers for Bush*, not opponents. This is my opinion.

PS - Why do you find the need to insult me and my education level so quickly? Did you consider that maybe I know more about this issue than you do? I suggest a more reasoned approach to dialogue than insults. I'm happy to be proven wrong and admit my mistakes when they occur. However, my statement was that my diminished faith in the Dems is furthered by their soft responses to hard issues. Noone has shown me otherwise, though I'd be happy to entertain any proof you have to offer that the Dems have faught hard for my rights as a gay american to be treated equally. The progress we've made has come from grassroots efforts and a changed environment in the national media (i.e. Ellen, Will & Grace, Queer Eye, etc.) mostly.

[superconnected]

19. yeah right, after the election...

I guess it's good news since I was beginning to assume the dnc was going to turn against gays altogether, adopt a republican agenda, and make me go green even though they don't have a chance in hades of winning.

Thanks dnc you slow-to-act-hide-your-head-in-the-sand-republican-bootlicking-jerks. Give me hope in you and string me along a little further.

[Psephos]

23. 'Bout time n/t

[hiley]

25. I thank you for the post

and links. Sounds good to me so I passed it along.
After reading the thread ..... yes the DNC should have done way, way more during the election and every frickin' day.
It sure can't hurt to encourage the DNC to do something now, though. :shrug:

I think it should be kicked.:kick:

[Kikosexy2]

27. Tom..

Dee-lay or is thee Lay needs to get bitch slapped and sodomized by lots of gay men. But he's such an evil, ugly f*#k I wouldn't even have oral sex with him for that matter. A bitch slap will have to do.

[donheld]

28. I too am glad to see the DNC standing up

But i'm very pessimestic about the repuglicans complying.

[SoCalDem]

30. He will.. He has "used" the issue enough for now.. It's back on the shelf

For now.. When it's time for the '06 elections, they'll dust it off, and start whipping up the frenzy again..

Their trusty old issues get trotted out every election, and their faithful fall for it over and over and over.

They never want to "solve" their GAGG issues, because it's their "bloody shirt" that must be waved every election to fire up the "base"..(and they are the "basest" people on earth)

gays
abortion
guns
god

The issues for democrats are too cerebral, and there's no bloody shirt to wave

healthcare
retirement benefits
good jobs
decent schools
clean water & air
affordable and clean energy

These are not "bloody-shirt" issues, and require more than a 30 second soundbyte screamed out as they "cut to commercial"

[AndyTiedye]

34. Don't Bet On It

They owe the Dominion big time for "delivering" the electoral votes
with their voting machinez.

They will be more than happy to deliver gays to the lions in exchange.

[SoCalDem]

42. I think they will "talk" about it, but in order to have the issue for next

time, they cannot "resolve" it....ever ..

There is nothing "in it" for them now that they actually HAVE the votes.. A few months before the next election they will promise to "fix it" again....and so on and so on..

In fact there will probably be a new flurry of ballot initiatives to make sure the faithful turn out again.

[AndyTiedye]

43. They Can Always Go Further

If they ban gay marriage this year,
they'll be campaigning for sodomy laws in the next election.

If they overturn Roe v. Wade this year,
they'll be going for a national ban next time,
or they'll go after birth control.

They own the voting machinez. There are no limits.

[kweerwolf]

33. A case of too little, too late

Where was the DNC when 11 states voted to approved anti-gay marriage laws in November? Where were they when my state (Missouri) passed a similar measure in August?

For the first time in years I voted a split ticket in November because I was so disgusted at the way some Missouri Democrats ran from the gay marriage issue in August, then came slinking back asking for our votes in November and saying what a shame it was that the marriage law was passed.

Frankly, it appears that the DNC is now trying the same thing. I hope they come around asking for money because I'll love the chance to tell them they can count on donations from me when I can count on action from them ... and not just a little sympathy after the fact.

[LTRS]

36. Bravo -- well said!

And I right with you on this:

"I hope they come around asking for money because I'll love the chance to tell them they can count on donations from me when I can count on action from them."

Ditto x 2 in this household!

[orpupilofnature57]

37. You got it"progressive agenda" neutralizing democratic party.

[Biased Liberal Media]

40. Exactly!!!

couldn't have said it better myself.

[DemoTex]

38. Like Bu$h will listen! Bwaa Haaa Haaa!

The Dems need to hire lawyer Randy New of Atlanta, a gay rights activist (and my brother's partner), to kick some ass for them. They won't kick said ass. Randy will. He is the guy suing the Druid Hills Country Club. I love Randy like a brother. In fact, my parents now love him. Since the "outing" with this Druid Hills Country Club thing, my parents have rallied around my brother and his great partner. Randy said he knew he was "in the family" when there was an envelope ($$$) for him under the Christmas tree this year, from old "Dr. T." God bless my old, tolerant parents.

[Biased Liberal Media]

39. Bout freakin time they said something

I am a liberal through and through, vote democratic though I lean Green, and frankly Dems in office have really upset me by staying quiet on this issue. Something NEEDED to be said, to be done...and it's about time.