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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 07:21 PM
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Blair on Iraq rack as spy chief breaks cover
Blair on Iraq rack as spy chief breaks cover
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/16/1063625034001.html





Britain's secretive intelligence chief has conceded that criticism of a dossier, setting out Prime Minister Tony Blair's case for war with Iraq, was valid because its most sensational warning was "misinterpreted".
Breaking with precedent, M16 head Sir Richard Dearlove testified via audio-link to the judicial inquiry into the suicide of a weapons expert, which has raised questions about Mr Blair's reasons for war and sent his trust ratings plunging.

Sir Richard said he stood by the intelligence in the September 2002 dossier, but added that a contentious assertion that Iraq could deploy chemical or biological weapons at 45 minutes' notice was only meant to refer to short-range arms.
"Given the misinterpretation placed on the 45-minutes intelligence, with the benefit of hindsight, you could say that was valid criticism," said Sir Richard, chief of the Secret Intelligence Service (SIS), better known as MI6.
"The original report referred ... to battlefield weapons. What subsequently happened in the reporting was it was taken that the 45 minutes applied to weapons of a longer range," he said.

The 45-minute claim was the most dramatic element of the dossier that Mr Blair used to counter widespread public opposition to joining a US war against Saddam Hussein.
Mr Blair's team denies it "sexed up" the dossier on the threat posed by Iraq. But five months after Saddam's overthrow, no banned weapons have been found in Iraq.
Sir Richard, whose disembodied voice echoed round the courtroom during his 40-minute testimony, insisted the 45-minutes claim was "a well-sourced piece of intelligence".

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The Government was rocked further at the weekend when a new book claimed that, just days before Iraq was invaded, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw begged Mr Blair not to go to war.
Mr Blair's spokesman said Mr Straw was merely outlining a Plan B if Parliament had voted against war, which it did not.
"That is entirely different to expressing policy differences," he said.
But author John Kampfner, an experienced political journalist, said his work was sourced to interviews with 40 key government figures and was confident about its authenticity.
His report follows a revelation last week that Mr Blair ignored warnings from spy chiefs that war would raise the risk of militants such as al-Qaeda acquiring weapons of mass destruction.


:bounce: Its all falling apart for Blair at home

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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 07:28 PM
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1. Good!
Wasn't the MI6 being used for political cover? Didn't Campbell and Hoon claim that they received misinterpreted (by MI6) intelligence that was used to assemble this dossier?

Should the answer be to the affirmative, then these two have some explaining to do again. As for Blair, where can he run now?
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 07:37 PM
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3. Ozy! Your right Blair is Self Destructing! What Blew my mind was
the line that because we had a War in Iraq it HELPED AID ALQUIDA in acquiring a Nuke Bomb! :nuke:

Blair is going down in History as the Worst Prime Minister since that other Prime Minister whats his name sat and watched while Hitler
took over Europe!
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 08:05 PM
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6. That line...
His report follows a revelation last week that Mr Blair ignored warnings from spy chiefs that war would raise the risk of militants such as al-Qaeda acquiring weapons of mass destruction.

...is the most ominous AND the most important for its grave implications. This means that the missing nuclear materials looted from unprotected nuclear sites (unlike the oil fields and the Ministry of Oil) could end up anywhere. Either in processed weaponized form or in a "dirty" bomb, any eventuality will mean that Blair and Bush bear the responsibility for any disaster these materials will create as their invasion provided the impetus for nuclear theft.
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 08:09 PM
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7. Ya Osy Remember the Nuclear Facility which was raided
the people sufferend Radiation poisoning and the facility NOT PROTECTED

Somebody wanted Dirty Uranium from Iraq so it couldn't be traced to any other government

:nuke:

And Now the Truth is revealed

What did Blair & Bush do!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 08:39 PM
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8. Al Gore Warned About This Very Scenario
That, in the case of war in Iraq, how could we secure all the materials that might be laying around.
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 09:20 PM
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9. Neville Chamberlain?
I think you may be right!
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 09:28 PM
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10. Thats It LanLady! Neville Chamberlain thats the guy!
He twiddled his thumbs while Hitler took over the world!

Blair is worse he HELPED get WWIII get started

and lets face it folks its getting closer & closer! :nuke:
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 09:32 PM
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11. Neville Chamberlain (NT)
.
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lightbulb Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 07:32 PM
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2. Wait, there's more
"The original report referred ... to battlefield weapons. What subsequently happened in the reporting was it was taken that the 45 minutes applied to weapons of a longer range," he said.

Soon to be revealed: M16's claim was actually a misinterpretation of yet another document which claimed that Bagdad Pizzerias could deliver a pie in 45 minutes or less, or it is free.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Tony. Haha!
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 08:03 PM
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5. Great Point Light Bulb! I'm proud of the English in the Investigation
Wonder Where America's investigation???

Is Bush gonna Blame Tony!

:bounce:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 09:33 PM
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12. junior will treat Tony Blair much like he did with Ken Lay
Has anyone ever heard junior mention Kenny boy's name. I didn't think so!

I bet junior has a nice surprise waiting him! Ya thought Nixon was pissed? You ain't seen dick shit yet!
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 07:50 PM
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4. Blair caught lying, time to step down
Bush next!
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:18 AM
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14. I am amazed at how Blair has stuck this out! England Wake up!
:bounce:
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dudeness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 09:37 PM
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13. having changed the face of labour politics
its time for blair to feel the wrath of a good ole labour party spill.."don't let the door hit your arse on the way out"..good riddance to this grub..
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