Man presses FBI agent for more details on mother's death in 9/11

[seemslikeadream]

At retrial in Germany, son asks, 'Was it torture?'
Associated Press
Originally published January 26, 2005

HAMBURG, Germany - An American who lost his mother in the first plane to hit the World Trade Center during the Sept. 11 attacks pressed an FBI investigator in a German court yesterday for more details on the hijacking, wondering whether her last minutes were "torture."

The emotional confrontation came as Special Agent Matthew Walsh opened his testimony at the retrial of Mounir el Motassadeq, describing how the hijackers used pepper spray to subdue those in the first-class cabin, slit the throat of one passenger and stabbed two crew members.

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Schudt also pressed Walsh for more information on the al-Qaida plot after Walsh said he was only authorized to tell the court details contained in a 2002 report on the attacks on New York and Washington.

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When pressed by Schudt on whether more evidence existed, Walsh conceded that it did.

El Motassadeq, 30, is being retried on more than 3,000 counts of accessory to murder and membership in a terrorist organization.

more
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-te.hoot26jan26,1,1542061.story?coll=bal-nationworld-headlines&ctrack=1&cset=true

[NewYorkerfromMass]

1. Walsh conceded that more evidence exists

Thank you. I'd say that is a big story.

[Monkie]

2. and thats why he won the right for retrial on appeal hearsay about hearsay

it may work in american courts but a conviction based on:
well judge,we have a statement from a terrorist who swears this guys responsible for 9-11
judge:what terrorist?where is he?under what conditions did he make these statements
lawyer:i'm not at liberty to say..

"The acquittal on all counts came after the court rejected a last-minute motion from a lawyer representing relatives of American victims of the attacks. The lawyer, Andreas Schulz, said his clients had access to "new information" from the U.S. Department of Justice but that he was "not authorized" to tell the court what it was"

http://www.unknownnews.net/040206secretjustice.html

and now 2 years later,same lawyer,this time FBI tries to help

"Schudt also pressed Walsh for more information on the al-Qaida plot after Walsh said he was only authorized to tell the court details contained in a 2002 report on the attacks on New York and Washington.
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When pressed by Schudt on whether more evidence existed, Walsh conceded that it did"

judge:you have evidence now?
fbi:yes we do we do
judge:can we see it?
fbi:err...
lawyer:see see they have evidence you wouldnt believe me but now its the FBI!!!
judge: *sigh*

this is going to work!

[seemslikeadream]

6. Thanks Monkie

for that link

:hi:

[Pastiche423]

3. This is the 1st I've heard of pepper spray

Anyone else?

[seemslikeadream]

5. I don't remember

but I'll ask in September 11 forum, somebody there will know.

[DulceDecorum]

8. The September 11 Forum

has discussed this at length.

The researchers are having difficulty comprehending the story we are being told.

Medical treatment in midst a cloud of Mace?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=125&topic_id=8440

The air within the plane is circulated through the cabin and also through the cockpit.
http://www.brokenwings.ca/chpt17.html

Therefore the PILOTS would have been affected as would ALL the passengers INCLUDING the hijackers unless the hijackers carried gas masks and aqualungs or something similar that allowed them the freedom to walk around and hijack the plane.

Flight 11 has been very problematic to 911 researchers because of factual discrepancies such as that one.
Atta and others appear to have boarded the plane AFTER it left -- and the 911 Omission has reached, commented on, and published, that same finding.

Flight 11 was not scheduled to take off and there is NOTHING to indicate that it ever did so.
If you look closely at accounts which were published on that day and the next, some say point blank that Flight 175 hit one tower and many go on to claim that Flight 77 hit the second.

Flight 11 was said to have been flown into the tower by Ameer Bukhari but then a certain Mr. Hopkins went and looked up the FAA records after reading the Washington Post and he was let go after talking to his supervisor. It turns out that Ameer Bukhari had been dead for exactly one year and the FAA and NTSB had investigated the plane crash that had killed him. In other words, he had a SOLID alibi. Next thing you know, Atta has switched out of Logan, gone to Portland, Maine and hijacked Flight 11.

Come on over to the September 11 Forum and check out some of the research there. We are not a bunch of crazy CTs. It is the story that is kooky, and NOT your fellow DUers.

[seemslikeadream]

11. Thanks DulceDecorum

You know I don't think you are a bunch of crazy CTs, don't you?

:hug:

[DulceDecorum]

13. We know,

You must be one too!!
Judging from the work you have done on a certain little bank.
:yourock:

[Skittles]

4. still cannot think about those passengers without blubbering

I doubt I ever will

[DulceDecorum]

9. Then I guess you are not going to like this

In the threads below, researchers examined the FAA certificates issued to the pilots and co-pilots of the four planes.
There were discrepancies.

Researchers then took the N-numbers of the planes and checked the FAA database.
More discrepancies.

Researchers took the names of the pilots
and later the names of the passengers
and checked them with the Social Security Death Index.

Whenever someone dies in the US, the hospital and also the funeral home inform the Social Security Administration which then closes the SS number for that individual. In the case of person such as Jimmy Hoffa, the SS file remains open for decades.
This check returned very puzzling results, considering that most of the victim's families have received settlements and many have held funerals and/or memorial services.
Further checks on other databases produced even more discrepancies.

The data is available in these threads.
However, the passenger names were obtained from CNN
and that list is authoritative.
Read the threads and draw your own conclusions.
Please do not take them at face value. Do you own digging and see what YOU, YOURSELF come up with.

The pilots and the planes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=10112&mesg_id=10112

The Pilots and the Planes: Part 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=12490&mesg_id=12490

The Passengers and the Planes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x18365

[Sterling]

7. How would they know any of this?

I call bullshit,

[DulceDecorum]

10. They know all this

because the cellphones managed to work
using technology that will not be available until at least 2006.

[seemslikeadream]

12. Hi Sterling

I appreciate your thoughts, at least this story gives us a chance to discuss 9/11 in LBN.