Bush Leads Challengers in Election Poll

[okieinpain]

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-bush-democrats,0,6080354.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

this is just to help everyone keep a clear head.

:~)

EDITED BY ADMIN: FIXED TITLE

[Nottingham]

1. If Americans want this Bozo again they deserve what they get!

:bounce:

[stoystown]

2. It's September 2003

The Unelected Fraud's father was way beyond 52% in September 1991.

[CMT]

3. thanks

but this is actually pretty good for this time. Remember 67% can't name a single dem candidate, people are not focused and our candidates are within 10-15 points of Bush. This tells me more about Bush vulnerability. But yes, we do need to keep the drumbeat up against Bush--and not take things for granted.

[diplomats]

5. Yes

Considering we aren't even close to having a presumptice nominee this isn't bad at all. Plus, I believe Bush does worse in polls of likely voters than registered voters.

[lanlady]

4. by 52 % ?

That's hardly good news for Bush. 3 little percentage points and he's history.

[diplomats]

7. He's actually at 53 percent

but that's not good news, either. He's perilously close to dropping under 50 percent.

[CatWoman]

17. and just who were these people?

The poll surveyed 1,228 registered voters nationwide by telephone. It had a margin of error of plus or minus of 3 percentage points.

[realFedUp]

6. all those asterisks are key......

:-)

[Patriot_Spear]

8. Riiiigghhtt, I saw poll numbers like this before, in the early 90's...

Another Bush*, Another war (without the happy ending), another recession (quite a bit larger) AND-

The largest budget deficet in American History with Hoover grade unemployment.

I have only one thing to say, 'Buh-Bye, Bush*'.

[Neutrino]

9. Kind of meaningless to make that claim

at this point. If I look, I know I can find another Poll to refute it.
Bush has singlehandedly destroyed this country--economically and
politically. We have become the pariah of the world. If there is
a group Bush hasn't hurt in some way, let us know: the poor,
minorities, women, the aged. He has pillaged the Environment,
squandered the public Trust and Finances, lied, deceived,
manipulated in a way that has never been seen in America. A lot
of people have reservations about responding to Polls these days--
given "watch what you say"--but these folks will pull the Lever
of their choice when Election time comes. The Bush Administration--
so little foresight--so little time.

[Neutrino]

13. The Texas Legislature---fight to the death--why?

The reason that Redistricting has become so nasty and obsessive
on the part of Republicans is because they know that come Election
time, the Electoral College is the only hope Bush has. He's awful,
and a groundswell is building to kick him the hell out--along with
Fieldmarshal Rumsfeld and Wolf-nitz. Good riddence!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

20. Wha...?

Isn't the redistricting about House seats -- nothing whatsoever to do with presidential elections?

IIRC Electoral College delegates from each state are selected by whoever candidate got the most votes in that state.

[chadm]

28. I wonder how those lever pulls will be counted

though.

[Emboldened Chimp]

10. This poll doesn't tell us much

because campaign season has just begun. Wait till the primaries are on the horizon; you'll see a turn in the numbers, because people will start paying attention and they'll know more about the front runners (which, imo, will be reduced to Clark and Dean.)

I believe with all my being that * is fucking toast. So, don't worry folks.

[wtmusic]

11. Agree, let's look at the trend line

which is Bush's popularity doing a lead balloon. Who in their right mind thinks Iraq or unemployment will improve before 11/04?

Lots of bright lights on the Democratic horizon, and lots of time for the apathetic multitude to learn their names.

[diplomats]

12. I checked out the Quinnipiac Polling Institute Web site

and found a poll in March where a generic Dem beat Bush. And guess what - his approval-disapproval rating was 53-39, exactly the same as in this poll. The fact that our candidates trail now doesn't obscure Bush's vulnerability.

[Uzybone]

14. 49-42 say Democrats better than Bush

thats the important part of this poll. They hardly know the guys names let alone thier positions. So the one on one matchup poll is pretty meaningless.

[diplomats]

19. That's specifically on the economy

eom

[wryter2000]

15. Thanks for the reminder

It's good to remember we don't have it in the bag yet. I don't think most people are concentrated on the 2004 election right now. I think things will turn around after the conventions. Seems to me that a "popular" president ought to have better numbers than this at this point.

[AndyTiedye]

26. It Won't Be In the Bag...

...until Bush* and the PNAC gang have been tried and convicted in the Hague,
and are safely locked up in prison.

They will have most of the media stumping for them again, of course.
They will continue to try to marginalize the Democrats when they can.
(That is better than *all* of the media, as was the case last year).

They will try to steal the election again, of course.

Even if we get our votes counted and our candidate is declared the winner
they may refuse to relinquish power.

[DemNoir]

16. Another useless poll

There is no real candidate yet.

[Zero Gravitas]

18. Name recognition

Most people have never heard of any of the dem candidates including many likely Dem voters. The Little Fraud's approval ratings are plumeting back to reality (i.e. based on how bad a job he is doing, not the rally round the Great Leader effect). IF we get a good solid candidate who runs a vigorous campaign and so long as we can keep the campaign on the issues, the silly little man living in Al Gore's house is toast.

[MoonAndSun]

21. bush* leads by only 10 points, ONLY 10 points, that is good news for

Dems. He should be polling much higher then this at this point, and it is only a 10 percentage point difference.

He is going down in 2004.

[barbaraann]

22. Bush has been campaigning since he was elected but the Dem

candidate has not even been selected yet!!!!!

For crying out loud, all the man does is campaign and fundraise while Cheney and the rest of the secret government hand out bags of money to their supporters and destroy what they can't plunder.

[Snellius]

23. Americans suffer from an "authoritarian personality"

That is, people who follow the leader even over a cliff. It's amazing that, even though most disagree with everything he has ever done, they would still vote for him.

[Emboldened Chimp]

24. It's all about the re-elect numbers

which have been in the toilet for *. He's consistently in the low 40's. Not good.

[TahitiNut]

25. Bogus poll.

Whenever there's a strong slate of opposition candidates against an incumbant President, we get this kind of skew: specific candidates poll worse than a 'generic' candidate.

To understand why, consider the rabid supporter of candidate 'A' (say Lieberman, for example). When polled on Bush v. 'A', this supporter answers "A" -- but when asked about other candidates, this zealot says "Bush". Indeed, one could note that the polls don't sum to 100%. It's easy to imagine the ideological supporter of candidate 'B' (say Kucinich, for example) choosing 'B' in Bush v. 'B' but choosing "Don't Know" or third party for other choices. When seeking the nomination, candidates' supporters often spin their answers.

[Robin Hood]

27. This does not account for Wesley Clark.

Let us not forget that Bush Sr. had a 92% approval rating less than a year before he lost to Clinton. A lot can happen in a year.