Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Ashcroft to Release Data Showing # times Government Sought Library Records

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
demdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 02:29 PM
Original message
Ashcroft to Release Data Showing # times Government Sought Library Records
WASHINGTON (AP) - The federal government will disclose how many times the FBI has sought records from libraries and businesses under the Patriot Act anti-terrorism law, Attorney General John Ashcroft said Wednesday.
Ashcroft told the president of the American Library Association, Carla Hayden, in a telephone call that he was removing the veil of secrecy on one of the most contentious provisions of the law, which was passed following the Sept 11 attacks.

"We're very gratified that the American public is now going to know what is happening in public libraries," said Emily Sheketoff, executive director of the library association's Washington office. "This has given people pause, a sense of concern."

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA3PA4QPKD.html

Headline edited for length and clarity

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 02:33 PM
Response to Original message
1. Oh sure they'll release them
Once they clean them up. I don't trust that asshole at all. How do we know he's telling the truth?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Cause he's a fine Christian,
right?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. He's not
As a follwer of the AntiChrist, we can expect him to lie habitually in the service of his Masters.

(and I'm only half-joking here)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 02:36 PM
Response to Original message
2. unless it is 0 this ain't gonna help his PR campaign for PAII - n/t
peace
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Here's what I heard from an insider
There was some sort of memo within the Justice Department that they were to lay low on pursuing things until the got the Patriot Act secured permanently — it has a sunset provision of 2005 — and PAII got passed. They don't want to alarm people prematurely. The person who told me this was a highly placed lawyer in one of the organizations fighting this. She would have no reason to lie to me.

So, I wouldn't be surprised if the figure is zero or some other miniscule number. After all, if it was truly damaging they wouldn't agree to release it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 02:39 PM
Response to Original message
3. Won't that be a violation of the Patriot Act?
Is Crisco Johnny compromising our national security for the sake of soothing public concerns? Doesn't he know that by revealing this information, member of Al Qaeda could discern how the Justice Department is gathering information and, with a quick consultation of their Magic 8 Ball, launch another attack on America?

Looks like Crisco Johnny should save a cage at Guantanamo for himself.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:13 PM
Response to Original message
6. Once is too much, Johnny.
Get a dictionary and look up the word "Precedent," you miserable excuse for a human being.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. Asscroft = Coward
What a lying little weasel, he needs to go to a library to find Osama or Sadaam. Maybe he should grow up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. He IS grown up!
That's why he's so dangerous: when adults play war, they HURT people -- REAL people. :grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:49 PM
Response to Original message
9. There's got to be a few items that won't be on the list...
What will happen to any librarian who speaks out about this and monkeywrenches some important investigation?

Oh yeah, I forgot... Ashcroft isn't paid to investigate anything but simple perverts and people who sell bongs on the internet.

Carry on, John...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:17 PM
Response to Original message
11. Asscrass in Ky
Tomorrow the worst of all horrors is descending on my poor city and state. Asscroft, who undoubtedly will not fly commercial, will be in Louisville to promote the "you know what." For all I know he may go to Lexington too. "Are the halls of Pemberly to be so polluted?" I called the mayor"s office and told them flat out that we should not be admitting the cat hater to our hometown, but should instead be declaring our city and state a free Patriot Act Zone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. First.....Diebold will scan the records.f........HA!.....and we all know
the numbers will be low.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:40 PM
Response to Original message
13. The problem is not how many times they did it.
The problem is that this peversion of law GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO DO IT. If the number is zero, the law is still WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 06:06 PM
Response to Original message
14. If this administration releases ANYTHING
then I have NO confidence that it hasn't been "sanitized."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 06:57 PM
Response to Original message
15. That guaranteed good press is getting a little hard to come by
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 07:25 PM by rocknation
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 08:23 PM
Response to Original message
16. "would you believe us if we wrote down our lies?" n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Dec 27th 2024, 03:41 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC