Gonzales Wins Confirmation as Attorney General

[Freddie Stubbs]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - White House counsel Alberto Gonzales survived a Democratic wall of opposition on Thursday to win U.S. Senate confirmation as the nation's next attorney general. He will be the first Hispanic-American to hold the post.

more: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=7532452

[Cha]

1. So ..who will be worse?

gonzales or ashcroft?

[Fleshdancer]

2. only time will tell, but my money is on Gonzales

Even Ashcroft wasn't capable of writing papers in support of torture.

[jamesinca]

6. I disagree

Ashcroft was not literate enough to write papers in support torture. Unless that is what you meant by "capable"

[abandon_ship]

53. en espanol tambien

[patcox2]

3. Probably Gonzalez.

Ashcroft, for all that he is a gibbering loon, apparently had some independance and some genuinely held beliefs which he would not compromise. He was way wrong, of course, but he appears to have been sincere.

This guy Gonzalez is just a crook, to call him a whore would be an insult to whores. He reminds me a bit of Smithers, he would simply do anything, take any position, that Bush wants him to take. Spineless sycophant is a good description. He is a lackey, a completely worthless gutless coward of a human being who has latched onto the Bush gravy train for his personal gain and has absolutely no personal honor. A complete shitheel.

[IA_Seth]

7. Smithers...lol...that is great. n/t

[MuseRider]

8. That is exactly

my take on this guy. God I hope we are wrong but I am pretty certain we are not.

[Cha]

11. I hope those Dems who voted for

gonzales..can live with their conscience on unleashing a person like this on the USA.

Wait! How did Feingold vote? Feingold always votes for whomever bush puts up because he says the president(sic) has a right to have his own people.

[Demrock6]

21. HEe confessed that on C-Span. But he did not vote for Alberto

[Cha]

38. To me..that says that

gonzales is really bad news if Senator Russ Feingold can't even bring himself to vote for him!

Thanks!

[Warpy]

35. The Democrats who betrayed us are

The Democrats voting Yes on Gonzales were:

(1) Senator Ken Salazar (Colorado).

(2) Senator Joseph Lieberman (Conn.).

(3) Senator Ben Nelson (Neb.).

(4) Senator Mary Landrieu (La.)

(5) Senator Pryor (Ark).

(6) Senator Bill Nelson (Fla.)

http://dailykos.com/story/2005/2/3/17136/82734


All of these bastards need to be turned out of office. Vote Green if you have to, just don't vote for THEM.

[connecticut yankee]

42. I'm not surprised about Lieberman

He's always been a DINO.

I can't stand him, and I've never voted for him (except when he ran with Gore)!

[abandon_ship]

55. how many of them are up for reelection in 2006?

[aikido15]

62. Doesn't matter to me...

Cause I will not be supporting ANY OF THEM!

[mojavekid]

45. Bullseye.

Sums him up nicely.

[MidwestTransplant]

12. At least Gonzales isn't a total religious wing nut

I doubt Gonzales would have made the statue wear a robe or put Chong in prison.

[Cha]

14. I guess we'll see then won't we?

Who is the worst AG in History?

[abandon_ship]

56. but he does have several cousins named Jesus

[WatchWhatISay]

61. No, he would just use the statue as a model

for where and how to torture someone.

[barb162]

23. Gonzalez will be worse because he is smarter than Ashcroft and more

capable of dreaming up evil crap and covering it up. Ashcroft was a total buffoon in the smarts dept and covering up.

[flakey_foont]

4. Saints Preserve Us!

Save us all from "Torquemada" Gonzales.............

it is becoming more and more apparent that the President of the United States IS named "Schicklegruber"!

[DainBramaged]

5. 60-36

Some day, our elected officials will be united against this stinking rotting regime.

[Reverend_Smitty]

10. can you post a list of the nays?

please?

[DainBramaged]

17. workin on it

[Reverend_Smitty]

31. Awesome, thanks!

I want to post the list on my blog

[Disturbed]

13. Prediction

In two years or less Amerika will be a Fascist Police State. Democrats will have zero power to ward off the Bush Junta onslaught.

The Right Wing Agenda

Abolish

Social Security
Medicare
Employer supplied health insurance
Unemployment Benefits
Welfare
Abortion Rights
Collective Bargaining
EPA
Public Education
Public Housing
IRS

[Mend]

36. Agreed,

and these flipping DINO's apparently don't know or don't care that once the slide into fascism started, it can't be stopped.

[iamjoy]

58. Who Abstained?

and why couldn't more Democrats do that?

For example, like Bill Nelson. Florida is fairly conservative and has a large Hispanic population. It would have been political suicide to vote against Gonzales 'cos the media whores and Republicans (same thing) would have branded him a racist. But he could have abstained.

[Zebulon]

59. Re: Who Abstained?

Inouye from Hawaii, Baucus from Montana, and Conrad from North Dakota.

[happynewyear]

9. ok that does it

Not in my name! Not in my name! Not in my name!

I want nothing else to do with this spineless group of people that endorse and encourage TORTURE!

DEMOCRATS GROW A DAMN SPINE! :grr:

[HuckleB]

15. My country is wrong!

This should not be able to happen. Sanity is lost.

[leveymg]

16. One more thing to blame Bill and the DLC for, I guess. n/t

[DainBramaged]

19. Who would have guessed Liberman and Landrieu voted for him

Eight Democrats voted for Ashcroft, while six voted for Gonzales: Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut, Ken Salazar of Colorado, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Bill Nelson of Florida, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Mark Pryor of Arkansas.

USA Today

[Lars39]

30. Landrieu is a New Democrat,

as is Joe Lieberman, Ken Salazar, Bill Nelson of Florida, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Mark Pryor of Arkansas.

I've got a few new choice euphemisms for 'New Democrats' now. :grr:

[DainBramaged]

32. Landoo is a Thug in Dem clothing, just like HellZell and Nightwhore

I will bet a nickle she switches to save her ass in the 2008 election. (I think she won in 2002). She is just another Ben 'Nightwhore' Campbell.

[egoprofit]

18. who is this guy??

[DainBramaged]

20. Diablo coming for our souls

[KansDem]

22. Does this mean the drapes come down off the Statue of Justice?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1788845.stm

[DainBramaged]

24. I bet the tailor is making a party dress for her as we speak

You really think this clown will be better than Asskkkroft?

[KansDem]

27. HEEEEELLLLLLLLLL NO!

I don't see this development as anything but another step backward for America...

[yorkiemommie1]

49. mebbe laura will lend her one n/t

[riverwalker]

25. yeah, but now she has a bag over her head

and is attached to electrodes with a german shepard ripping at her flesh.

[KansDem]

28. Good point...

I wonder how long it'll be until such treatment is allowed in US prisons...

[DrZeeLit]

39. Love your answer... thanks for the only laugh of this dismal day. n/t

[aikido15]

63. If it weren't so sad it would be funny...

I am seriously losing my sense of humor.

[hvn_nbr_2]

29. Attorture General Abu Gonzales puts electrodes on her offending parts

Then he puts a leash on her and piles her in a pyramid of evil naked sculptures along with Venus de Milo and goddess of Willendorf.

[intheflow]

26. We have lost our national conscience.

I weep for America in this time of rising fascism.

[KayLaw]

33. What's the proper thing to say?

Praise Satan, or something?

[LifeDuringWartime]

37. Hail Satan

:evilgrin:

[iamjoy]

34. The Six Dems Who Think Torture Is OK

Joseph Lieberman (CT) - well, we've always known he's a bit of a hawk

Mary Landrieu (LA) - not exactly the most progressive

Mark Pryor (AR) - don't know what his story is

Ken Salazar (CO) - isn't he Hispanic?

Ben Nelson (NE) - isn't he kind of Conservative anyway?

Bill Nelson (FL) - Kissing ass to the Cubans in Miami or making deals with Mel Martinez. Breaks my heart, I've met him, he seems really nice & I was all fired up to work him in 2006. Possibly chicken over that election.

[6000eliot]

40. They make me ashamed to be a Democrat!

Fuck these assholes!

[Julius Civitatus]

43. McCain also thinks torture is fine and dandy

Those six pink-tutu Democrats should be put on notice by their constituents, and in the case of Lieberman, I really hope Paul Newman unseats him (as the rumor goes).

Even more revolting than the "shameful six" Democrats, it's teh fact that senator McCain voted for Gonzales. McCain knows first-hand what torture is, and why we shoudl support the Geneva Convention. Still, McCain voted for Alberto "Little Noriega" Gonzalez. For shame!!!!

[CatWoman]

41. you're always the first to post good news for Republicans

you know that?

[Zhade]

46. I thought I was the only one who noticed that...

But to be fair, Mr. Stubbs did support a filibuster on this nomination.

Props to the Dems who remained sane and voted no, and eternal shame on those who endorsed torture, the breaking of international law, and imperial presidency!

[Freddie Stubbs]

47. I also post good news for Democrats

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=158&topic_id=2933&mesg_id=2933

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=186&topic_id=4945&mesg_id=4945

Unfortunately is seems that many DUers are only interested in the bad news, and take little interest when good things happen.

[Danmel]

44. So depressing. Time to sit shiva for America - she's dead

What has happened to my country? Being American has become such an embarrasment and such a disgrace. For that alone, I hate Bush. For that alone.

[hvn_nbr_2]

48. What does "to sit shiva" mean?

I presume it has something to do with the Hindu god Shiva?

[Zebulon]

50. Re: What does "to sit shiva" mean?

Not Hindu. It's part of the Jewish mourning custom.

[Danmel]

57. It is a 7 day period of mourning

The word "Shiva" comes from the Hebrew word "Shevah" which means 7. You sit for 7 days. It is customary to rend a garment, sit on a low box, not shave (if you are a man), refrain from any entertainment. You also say the prayer for the dead during this period- it is called Kaddish.

The Shiva period begins after burial and ends after 7 days. You do not sit Shiva on the Sabbath or on holidays. During this time, people come to your home to offer comfort and sympathy. People cook for you and take care of all the day to day stuff for you, so you are not additionally burdened. Under Jewish law, burial is within 24 hours of death if possible. We do not have wakes. The burial is completed and THEN the visitors come.

I just feel like America has died and I want to sit shiva. Watching that fool of a man masquerading as the President of my country, watching people shower him with adulation, listening to his lies get spun and revised as he speaks, hearing that the Senate confirmed a man who thinks torture is OK just makes me want to mourn the loss of my country. I am ineffably sad and I am beginning to feel that there is no hope.

[Zebulon]

51. And the Republican goosestep continues

Not a single member broke ranks to vote against the nominee for Torturer General.

[MiniMe]

52. Does anybody else have a problem with the AG....

being Bush's personal attorney? At least he was before. Isn't there some conflict of interest there?

[Zebulon]

54. I think "conflict of interest"

is the least of our problems with Gonzalez.

[newblewtoo]

60. 60-36-4

Things are not looking good for the Supreme Court. Wow.

[LynnTheDem]

64. So it's official; America, Land of Torture.

Yep, that'll show the world what we really mean when we say "freedom and liberty".