Barring Gays From Adopting Not Homophobic Lawmaker Says

[truthpusher]

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Barring Gays From Adopting Not Homophobic Lawmaker Says
by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff

Posted: February 3, 2005 5:01 pm. ET

(Little Rock Arkansas) Rep. Bob Adams (D-Sheridan) says that his bill to ban the state from placing children in "homosexual homes" isn’t meant to discriminate against gays.

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"Nobody, either homosexual or heterosexual, has a fundamental right to adopt," Thomas said. "In foster care and adoption, the state is actually creating families. It’s a very serious responsibility."

Thomas told the lawmakers that research that says that gays make good parents is flawed.

"Common sense should tell us that a home with two homosexual men or two homosexual women is not going to be the same as home with a married mom and dad," Thomas said.

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[merwin]

1. Why not just ban blacks from adopting as well? I mean, we all know

that they're all just thugs and all their kids will turn up in gangs and die a young death.

THIS IS FUCKING DISCRIMINATION! Why can't people see this?

[Occulus]

14. Because gays aren't a "suspect class"

because everyone "in charge" wants to think it's a choice.

YEAH, SURE- I CHOSE TO GET KICKED OUT OF MY PARENTS HOUSE, I CHOSE TO LOSE MY EDUCATION, I CHOSE TO LIVE UNDER TREES AND IN FRIENDS' DORM ROOMS. SURE, MOTHERFUCKERS, I CHOSE TO LOSE TWO SEPERATE SETS OF FRIEDS AT TWO DIFFERENT TIMES AND GO INTO A LINE OF WORK I FUCKING HATE JUST TO SURVIVE. YEAH, DICKWADS, I CHOSE TO GIVE UP ON EVERY DREAM I EVER HAD IN EXCHANGE FOR EVERY LAST ONE OF MY WORST NIGHTMARES COMING TRUE!!!!!!

I am ** <--- this close to just saying "fuck EVERYONE". I've never been gaybashed, but the very first asswipe that tries, dies.

How's THAT for choice, you MOTHERFUCKING BIGOTED ASSHOLE!!!

[bluestateguy]

2. Yes, let the kids rot away in underfunded orphanages or foster homes

Another one of your DLC Democrats for you.

[NYC]

17. That's what the alternative is.

Bigots.

[theworldiswatching]

3. What about single parent adoptions?

"Common sense should tell us that a home with two homosexual men or two homosexual women is not going to be the same as home with a married mom and dad," Thomas said.

Yeah, and single-parent families are normal right? They get to adopt kids.

[buddysmellgood]

4. Common sense should also tell this asshole that a home with two loving men

or two loving women as parents is a whole lot better than a home with abusive heteros. What the hell is his point if not being a homophobe?

[Andy_Stephenson]

6. His point...

bigotry is a good thing.

[merwin]

15. Yes, let's all be happy ignorant bigots n/t

[Alisa]

5. I am a lesbian and I adopted two brothers four years ago

And I know quite a few gays (and lesbians) who have also adopted children who are older, disabled etc - and I have found them to be tremendous parents. These kids are challenging and are "outsiders" - it makes perfect sense to me that gays and lesbians have what it takes to meet these children's needs.

[StuckinKS]

7. Well, as a gay parent

I can tell you that my three sons adopted out of foster care are faring much better in my and my partner's care than they did in the care of their heterosexual birth parents.

So, I guess heterosexual parents don't ALWAYS trump gay parents.

Stupid, fucking idiots.

[PartyPooper]

8. One of the regrets my partner and I share

is that we never were able to adopt children.

Today happens to be our 32nd anniversary.

We've had pets. But, we would have loved to have raised children.

Kudos to all gay and lesbian folks who were able to adopt. The childrens' lives they've touched is very special and should be recognized as such.

To all adoptive parents, WE LOVE YOU!

:loveya:

[Behind the Aegis]

19. HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!!

32 years!!! May you and your special other have many, many more!!!

:hug:

[StuckinKS]

24. As adoptive parents

we love you too.

32 years together...what an example. Happy anniversary.

[SW FL Dem]

9. I'm a hetero adoptive mom

and I find this reprehensible. I see way too many dysfunctional hetero families and I am way too familiar with the damage that can be done. Kids need parents who love each other and who are devoted to their kids. Sexual orientation has NOTHING to do with it.

[despairing optimist]

10. And just whose "common sense" is doing the steering in this debate?

Sheesh. Some people think they're the center of the universe. The rest of us can just go to hell, I guess.

Common sense, indeed.

[Mr_Spock]

11. Is this the new suck-hole-no-brain approach to logic these days?

Do we live in a country full of self-serving ass-holes or what?

[MrPrax]

12. "In foster care and adoption, the state is actually creating families?

Well actually the State is usually called upon to rescue children in these cases of 'families'...it's not like the good old days, where babies and kids are left at church doors or with ailing grandparents...who have to take them to church doors...because they barely have enough for themselves.

In Ye Olde Times, that system proved to be inadequate and so things like 'child protection', social welfare and 'rights' were invented by goblins, warlocks and 'liberals' to destroy the family, make homosexuality commonplace and spit on good family values...which proved to be inadequate...etc etc

[EC]

13. As I understand this, wasn't the kid in their care as a foster child?

Doesn't that make this statement moot?
"Thomas said. "In foster care and adoption, the state is actually creating families. It’s a very serious responsibility."

[leQ]

16. well, DUH.... what a doofus (eom)

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[Skittles]

18. LOL, what an idiot

he needs to check the stats of abused children and find out just how many of them come from those "ideal" homes

[dusty64]

23. And a "democrat"

also.

[moobu2]

20. It isn't like these creeps actually care about children because

it's the children themselves who'll be hurt by this law.

[0rganism]

21. Who needs "research" when we have "common sense" and Leviticus?

Come to think of it, who needs republicans when we have Democrats like Rep. Bob Adams?

[xchrom]

22. since most abused children come from heterosexual homes...

doesn't common sense dictate....

there's no such thing as ''common sense'' when it comes to an issue like this -- one is an informed, civilized, educated person --
or a barbarian, like thomas, burning down the gates to a reasoned society.

[Toucano]

25. Common sense?

What he's really saying is "I'm not going to allow facts to affect my prejudices!"

That isn't common sense.

[Chovexani]

26. What a jackass

Obviously he doesn't realize (or care) that gay & lesbian couples often adopt children that would otherwise languish in foster care--children of color, babies born addicted to drugs, older children, etc. These children are loved and cared for instead of being left to rot in the system until they're 18 and forced to live on their own, many times with few if any life skills.

I really fucking hate this country sometimes. :argh:

[killbotfactory]

27. DON't let them catch TEH GHAY!

What an asshole.

Hey, you know what's better than no parents? ANY PARENT.

[Zenlitened]

28. Dope-slapping Bob Adams not assault, Zenlitened says

Common sense should tell us that illegal violence is not the same as attempting to smack some brain cells loose so this poor man can think clearly. It's a very serious responsibility.

[Zenlitened]

29. Just occurred to to me to add, we should refer to this kind of crap as.

... "anti-family" legislation, "anti-family" policy.

Why do these people hate families?

:grr:

[Magleetis]

30. I have two

lesbian friends who adopted a child from China. One of the women was teacher of the year in a large Texas city and the other one works for IBM. Their child is a wiz kid, and is very well adjusted. Hey Adams, you don't know what your talking about. People please tell me when we'll be rid of these men!

[soleft]

31. They want kids adopted into a home with a married Mom and Dad

But apparently it's okay if a child is born into one

[Plaid Adder]

32. And of course NO HOME is better than a same-sex-parent home.

Asshats.

Yeah, you know what, a home with two men or two women isn't going to be the same as a home with a heterosexual couple. That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be WORSE.

God, when you think of the children in this country who wind up abused, neglected, manipulated, scarred for life, molested, and everything else by their heterosexual parents...but at least their parents aren't GAY! Cruel, maybe, or too fucked up to do anything but fuck up their children, or so embroiled in a death struggle with each other that they use the kids as weapons...but that's still better than being raised in a home with two loving parents in a stable committed relationship who belong to the same gender!

Thanks, Adams. Makes me feel soooooo good to be a Democrat.

@#$!,

The Plaid Adder