New York Court Rules Gays Must Be Allowed To Marry

[jonolover]

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/02/020405nyMarr.htm

This is good!

[roenyc]

1. In your face bush! NT

[NashVegas]

2. Jonolover - FIX Your Headline

A New York State court ruled Friday that same-sex couples must be allowed to marry.

State Supreme Court Justice Doris Ling-Cohan said that the New York State Constitution guarantees basic freedoms to lesbian and gay people, and that those rights are violated when same-sex couples are not allowed to marry.

In NY, the state Supreme Court is actually the lowest on the totem poll. Court of Appeals are the poohbahs.

the actual story title does not say 'high' court.

[Beetwasher]

4. On A State Level It Doesn't Get Much Higher Than the State Supreme Ct.

The appeals courts are federal. I could be wrong though...

This is great news! It means the only wat to overturn IS to go Federal, and that would be trampling all over us New Yorkers STATES RIGHTS.

[NashVegas]

6. Not In NY State

NY court structure is different than most. On the state level, Supreme is the lowest, Court of Appeals is the highest, and there's another in between, IIRC.

I'm not trying to dampen anyone's enthusiasm, just saying there's a ways to go yet.

[MrMonk]

14. New York State Courts

http://www.courts.state.ny.us/courts/structure.shtml

Supreme Court = court of original instance
Intermediate Appeals = first level of appelate courts
Court of Appeals = the highest court

[Beetwasher]

16. Ok

Well, that's not MUCH higher! (only two more courts, so I was still sorta right!) ;-)

Seriously though, I think the NY courts will still do the right thing and uphold this ruling...

[HockeyMom]

5. Said on another thread

DOMA FAILED 4 times in New York with REPUBLICAN controlled legislature. The marriage laws, which fall under the Board of Health, define marriage as between BRIDE and GROOM. Who is a bride and who is a groom? Doesn't specially say MAN and WOMAN. The marriage laws also talk about spouses. Again, subject to interpretation too.

There has NEVER been any attempt here to have a citizen vote on this. I don't think the politicians here want to touch this issue, INCLUDING REPUBLICANS. Even "Saint Rudy" has publicly said on many, many occasions he is in favor of gay marriage, although certainly NOT as Bush's poster boy during the reelection campaign.

We shall see.

[despairing optimist]

36. That's right, guys. To bashers I say, Bring it on!

[Book Lover]

3. Yes!

Hurray!

[Ian David]

7. A conversation on gay marriage I had with a nurse once

She said that she had no problem with gay people having their rights, but didn't like them always marching and protesting.

I said, "Well, If Town Hall would have just given them a marriage license, they wouldn't be out protesting. When was the last time you saw gay people chanting and waving rainbow flags outside The Registry of Motor Vehicles?"

[Gothmog]

8. Here is another story on this decision

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/breaking_news/story/277800p-238003c.html

[Spacejet]

9. I'm confused

Is this the state supreme court or a lower court in the state making this ruling? And does it effect the entire state or just a region?

[NashVegas]

It Is a Lower Court

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_State#Law_and_Government

The court system in New York is notable for its "backwards" naming: the state's trial court is called the New York Supreme Court, while the highest court in the state is the New York Court of Appeals.

[Spacejet]

13. This is good news still

Is anyone here familiar with the judges on the court of appeals? Any idea what they might rule?

[karlrschneider]

31. So the NY "Supreme Court" is the equivalent of "District Court" in most

states? How weird...
:eyes:

[TahitiNut]

20. What would be called a "Superior Court" elsewhere is called ...

... the State Supreme Court in New York. The highest court in New York is the State Court of Appeals.

[Danmel]

25. The Supreme Court is the first level-

It is the trial level court.

The Appelate Division is the intermediate level court

The Court of Apppeals is the highest level court in NYS.

[Technowitch]

10. It'll be a while yet

There are several appeals to be filed -- and you can bet they will be.

I'm of the opinion those nice couples are going to be waiting at least a few more years -- assuming they manage to win at all.

And let's not forget, Bushie and his fascist buddies are angling for a U.S. Constitutional amendment which would trump all of this.

Next stop: New Gilead.

[Stop_the_War]

11. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU NEW YORK!!!

[Ganja Ninja]

12. This should put the fundies panties in a knot.

:headbang:

[geniph]

15. Oh no! I can feel my marriage crumbling even as we speak!

The sanctity of my marriage has been violated, VIOLATED, I tell you! How can I possibly stay married in a culture that permits two people who love one another to form a legal bond?!

[Rockholm]

17. But NOTHING mentioned on CNN or MSNBC websites.

What Scum they are.

[Spacejet]

24. Actually that may be a good thing

they probably can't get much of a hate rise out of people anymore.

[Supersedeas]

28. lower your expectations....lower.....looooowwwweeer

[KittyWampus]

18. States Need To Get Out Of Marriage Business All Together & Only

provide Civil Union contracts to any two individuals who want to join their households.

Let Houses of Worship be the ones to "Marry" people according to whatever doctrine they hold.

This upholds seperation of Church and State.

It also recognizes there's a difference between a legal marriage done in accordance with State Law and those done in the confines of a Religion.

[Southern Dem 2005]

21. Problem with that is

the state provides a bunch of benefits depending on marital status. I agree states should allow gays/lesbians to marry but there have to be some rules enforced by the state or you could end up with, say, bigamist or polygamist marriages.

[KittyWampus]

22. Civil Unions Would Have ALL Benefits Of A Marriage. Only Difference

ideally would be a civil union was done by state & marriage done by church.

At least that's my suggestion.

[MountainLaurel]

26. That makes perfect sense

And I concur that marriage needs to be reserved for the religious sphere.

[arwalden]

19. Outstanding!!

[DiverDave]

23. good news

When one is oppressed we all are.

[Solar]

27. SWEET!

Oh this is awesome news!

[Zhade]

29. Kick

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[Spacejet]

32. Lol

I think you found the wrong forum...

[gorbal]

34. Exactly

Sacred for everyone.

[donheld]

35. Maybe gay marriage can be sacred too.

[Anakin Skywalker]

33. Aww I Guess God Hates

New York now. It is the Sin State! After he damns Massachusetts, NY is next! Well, it is what a CONservo/fundy would say anyway. :)