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Newsjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 06:57 PM Original message |
(Calif.) Secretary of State Kevin Shelley to resign |
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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oh man. |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. kick! All, call your legislators right now! Tell them |
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Dump the deficit (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
83. Time for a non-partisan Secretary of State |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
89. I totally agree with you |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Call 916 653 7244 We need him to stop planned gerrymandering |
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mountebank (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Wait - how is an independent redistricting called gerrymandering? |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Yes, every district in the state but one is a guaranteed win for |
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mountebank (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Right - Arnold's plan is short on details. |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Hello???? this is rethug steroid boy!!! |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
45. You can't trust ANYTHING the republicans are saying |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
49. oh now we get to vote on diebold machines |
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Merlot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 09:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. The "redistricting plan" wouldn't be happening |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 10:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
65. Well, I'm sure they are not |
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Big_Mike (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
90. All right, I'll give you mine |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. Democratic or Republican? |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Democrat |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Allegations are more than personnel issues, inappropriate use of funds. |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Two HAVA people attended a political rally: That's the basis |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. If that's all that it is, why is he resigning? |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 09:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
60. There's a bit more than that. The State Auditor's report for example is |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. Guess that means Arnie gets to appoint his replacement, no? |
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Merlot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yes, that's exactly what it means. |
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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Arnie is probably twirling in circles and doing cartwheels right about now |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Off-topic, but did you know Norquist is bankrolling his CalPERS plan? |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. OMFG. n/t |
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Dump the deficit (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
86. Who is Norquist? |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Grover Norquist. If you don't know who he is.... |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. What did they do, threaten his family? So other SOS, here's your lesson.nt |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. I said on trhe California forum last night that he was toast |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Freeperville had Call to Action threads every day |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 10:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
62. We need to oppose whatever letter writing campaign the freepers are doing |
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Sivafae (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
41. yep, and that nasty thing about the electronic voting will no longer be a |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 09:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. sweet now we can have a real european dictator |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 10:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. From Austria no less nt |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. No, he can't! |
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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. He may not be able to afford to defend himself. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I know that feeling! |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 02:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
77. OVER MY DEAD BODY! I've had enough! Stay the fuck away from CA.! |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 03:16 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. I think the article was updated that he resigned. |
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mountebank (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. Who is behind this? This is not coincidence obviously. |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. The same people who went after Dan Rather/CBS |
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mountebank (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. The freepers are rabid about a lot of things, but they don't always |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. The freepers are led by a group of RNC "minders" |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
67. We don't need to know who is behind this if we can see what the freepers |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
37. Karl Rove? He is big on getting his people in top state positions. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
87. It started LONG before that. During the recall |
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bobweaver (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
16. Fair elections in CA will go with him. Look for CA to go red in 2008. |
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AlGore-08.com (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
18. Don't forget he was considered a leading candidate for Governor |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
19. If He Was Innocent, He Should Have Stayed and Fought |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Once the VRWC smeared Shelley as dirty, how do you beat back |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. This Is California, and Shelley Had Already Been Elected (eom) |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. And now he is resigning |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:52 AM Response to Reply #34 |
75. If I Was Innocent, No Peer Pressure Would Get Me To Resign |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 01:17 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. What are you talking about "Peer Pressure"? |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #75 |
82. You are being naive. (nt) |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:41 PM Response to Reply #75 |
84. Proven to me your opinions aren't worth listening to |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 10:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
68. So had Gray Davis |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:50 AM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Davis Didn't Resign (eom) |
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necso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
20. We're screwed. /nt |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
25. It looks like he did a fantastic job with the elections. |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 07:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. He kept elections honest in CA. Arnold has a vote-rigger in mind |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Except for the one in Washington! He has integrity, and is also a |
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Lostnote03 (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
30. This has to be turned around quickly!!!! |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I little money and some spin could fix this. -n/t |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
31. Dissenting |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. It's already being undone. Ventura County Board of Supervisors |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. Mainframes are more secure. -n/t |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
85. Whaa? At a Camarillo Democratic Club meeting last year we heard |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. He may have brought some of this on himself, |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. It looks like a smear. |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. Get used to more stories like this |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
44. Why,why,why,why,why did everyone ignore this until NOW!!!! |
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SoCalDemGrrl (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
46. This is not good people, Shelley was hip to the fraud potential |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
69. Couldn't have said it better myself |
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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
51. Link to Shelley's statement. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
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Piperay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
55. When will the Democrats ever learn |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
56. Action Plan! DU this and kick, please. |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Liberty Belle, |
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doodadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 10:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. I did email Shelly, and got this back |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 12:03 AM Response to Reply #56 |
73. deleted - n/t |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
58. I'm getting nervous about California....a couple of weeks back I |
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PROGRESSIVE1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
70. Was the report biased? I find it hard to think the BCC is that. |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
61. "and bad behavior"??? What kind of charges are those? |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
64. Proof this is a smear campaign |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
71. nominated for home page nt |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
72. I would think the top Dems in |
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SoCalDemGrrl (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 02:48 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. kick |
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dusty64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
80. Not good. |
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ticapnews (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
81. So CA joins the Diebold Empire. How do Dems win the WH without those 55 |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-05-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. That's the worst part about it: unverifiable electronic voting |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Time for soliciting signatures for a proposition... |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-07-05 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
93. Total Information Awareness abused by Imperial Powers means |
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