Rice says diplomacy can succeed in Iran

[Conservativesux]

Rice says diplomacy can succeed in Iran; allies united to nudge Mideast peace

Feb 04, 2005

ANNE GEARAN

The Canadian Press

BERLIN (AP) - U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice joined British and German allies pledging Friday to help Israel and the Palestinians seize an opening for peace in the Middle East. They also said diplomacy can neutralize a nuclear threat in Iran.

"Now is the time for our diplomacy to put our alliance to work in the service of great goals and great opportunities that stand before us," Rice said. Calming waters still troubled by the U.S.-led war in Iraq is a major aim of Rice's weeklong trip through Europe and the Middle East. Rice's jammed schedule takes her to two or three countries each day of the trip, her first abroad as the new top U.S. diplomat.

She seemed to make headway in Germany, where Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's government fiercely opposed the war and refused to commit troops.

"We have discussed this topic at length and we very strongly agree that what the country now needs is a perspective towards the course of democracy and stability for its future," Schroeder said after an hourlong meeting with Rice. "We are very much agreed on this purpose and on this being the important point, irrespective of what one thought about the military intervention in Iraq in the first place."


More:
http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/050204/w020484.html

[katinmn]

1. I caught a couple minutes of her on the news. Her voice was

quavering. Must be hell going places where people don't buy your BS.

Good.

Maybe it will open her eyes a little.

[driver8]

18. Her voice is always like that.

I'm wondering...does that mean she lies a lot??

Naw...couldn't be.

[havocmom]

2. Ah, did somebody give her some info about the size, population and

resources of Iran? Suddenly, diplomacy? Wow.

[fshrink]

3. And like the other asshole said publicly at the UN:

"And if it doesn't, fine". Lie had now become a comprehensive and systematic policy.

[dxdem]

4. Heavens...

have we started another march towards freedom already?

[Dirk39]

5. I followed the press conference...

Hello from Germany,
she simply didn't say this. She said that the U.S.A. would let Europe do what it's doing, but would not in any way support these diplomatic approach.
The funniest thing was, when a german journalist asked them - Schröder and Condi - why Bush is visiting Mainz (instead of Berlin or Hamburg...).

Condi and Schröder: it's about the soldiers there, Bush wants to say hello to them and everybody understands this.

(There are still about 80.000 of Bush's armed guerilla-fighters stationed in Germany).

Could it be the that Bush isn't too welcomed here?

Dirk

[lebkuchen]

9. Mainz has the 1AD

I think. Somebody will correct if that's wrong.

1AD families were told a couple of weeks ago that the division would be redeploying for another year to Iraq, and the spouses were very unhappy to hear this news. The media was not allowed in the tents due to the negative response.

Look to the Bushies to start hand-picking the crowd for this visit.

[struggle4progress]

33. Our press coverage is often poor quality.

[Auntie Bush]

6. How come diplonacy can work in Iran...but not in Iraq?

I guess the Iranians didn't try to kill Bush's Daddy.

[cliss]

7. Message from Cliss to Condiment Rice:

"It's a great big world out there, Conda-liar. The world is now your stage, as you cover the globe and speak with hundreds of leaders from many nations.

You are now trying diplomacy on a grand scale, and you are bringing the message from the US to the world, that they must co-operate with the US. As you do, you will start to notice something.

After a few months, when you have covered thousands of miles and filled in hundreds of appointments in your calendar, the countries will all fuse together into one nation. The leaders and their cabinet members and members of parliament, will fuse into one generic individual.

That individual will look at you, and his eyes will be narrowed. He'll be smiling a great big smile, but all the while he'll be watching you. And anticipating your next move.

He will try to double-cross you before you double-cross him, as you surely will if he is vulnerable.

You'll find out that the US hated everywhere you go. And it's because of you, and the people you represent.

[Conservativesux]

8. Amen to that !!

Dont blame the 49 percent of us who didnt vote for this stupid lunatic and his merry band of hench-persons!

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

10. Can does not imply that it will, or even it will be given a chance

Diplomacy could have worked in Iraq, had we tried it at all.

The fact that the US is not supporting the diplomatic efforts with Iran speaks volumes, and anyone who has a shovel and no bomb shelter in Iran should start digging now. Because these assholes will not be denied their agenda, no matter how disastrous.

[True_Blue]

11. Bush-style Diplomacy

You do what we say or we invade you.

[Erika]

12. Yes Bush's order to Condi

Tell them to obey or die. Such a Christian message. I'm just overwhelmed with the Christianity of this administration who believes in preemptive strikes against third world countries. Christ's Golden Rule in action.

[0007]

22. Aye Mate!

Condi will be on top of her game.

[opihimoimoi]

13. In the last 4 years...she has said a lot of things...none came true

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

14. Small wonder there...

when she speaks, she lies...and for those right-wing shitheads who bought into GWB and Cheney's "body language" (Woodward speaks of it constantly in his book)...

WE - the people whom you SWORN TO REPRESENT - can see right through your lying, despicable, manipultive bullshit...

But that's me...

[ultraist]

15. Iran blasts Rice's speech

Iran blasts Rice's speech
Saturday 05 February 2005, 2:37 Makka Time, 23:37 GMT
Rice said there was no plan for a US attack against Iran

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/1AAA240D-1310-4BAB-B0D8-723ABB418DFC.htm
Iranian officials have criticised US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's speech, saying her comments were inaccurate. Speaking to Aljazeera from Tehran on Friday, adviser to the Iranian President Muhammad Shariati said Rice's comments were not warmly welcomed.
"We reject the accusations Rice has directed at Iran, particularly those related to Iran's acts in 'destabilising the region' ," he said.

"All her accusations were inaccurate as Iran has neither dealt with the Taliban nor Saddam's regime, but their relations with past US administrations have been friendly." Rice had said that a pre-emptive strike against Iran is not on the agenda adding that Iran needs to live up to its obligations and agree to verification inspections.

Iran says it has the right to have nuclear technology. But Iran maintains that it has the international right to possess nuclear technology like any other nation con't

[Inte11ectual]

16. "Rice Urges United Front on Iran" from the BBC

shades of January 2003 before Iraq

[ultraist]

17. It's only a matter of time...

excerpt from BBC article linked above:
In London, Ms Rice insisted that attacking Iran was not on the US agenda "at this point in time".


Welcome Inte11ectual!





:hi:

[Inte11ectual]

19. Thanks

Thanks for the welcome. Coming from a small aggie town in rural California, its nice to finally find some people who share my views.

[ultraist]

20. You will find many friends here!

There are lots of Californians as well.

[underpants]

21. You know what might help? An ambassador, someone actually talking to them

Just a thought

[candle_bright]

24. What should they say?

What should/shouldn't they try to negotiate, and who would be a good choice?

I think an Iranian-American would be a good choice.

[underpants]

25. Open the lines of communications

Without a regular back and forth the first meeting can become nothing but a yelling match with each side making demands, charges, and countercharges against each other.

The problem is, as we have seen, is that the trusted circle that is W-world is increasingly smaller and smaller. A good choice might be an Iranian-American or an experienced diplomat like say Albright but they would never trust her or allow her the exposure.

[shadowknows69]

23. diplomacy

after we bomb the hell out of you. sorry in advance about the necessary civilian casualties.

[Conservativesux]

26. Bush & Co. : "Diplomacy?; we dont need no stinking diplomacy"!

[dansolo]

27. So they plan on sending in Clinton?

Because god knows if anyone in this administration is even capable of diplomacy.

[leesa]

28. So. Was it yesterday she said no diplomacy and today it's diplomacy

For this gang of thugs, diplomacy = 500 pound bombs

[katinmn]

32. that's exactly what she said. May I say " Flip-flopper?"

Sometimes I think they are complete fools flying by the seat of their pants with no plans or experience and yet they are toying with millions of lives.

Other times I think it's all part of a dark and devious plan to take over the Middle East and more.

In either case, it's frightening to have them completely in control of all three houses of government, the Supreme Court, AND the media.

We really have our work cut out for ourselves...

[ckramer]

29. "diplomacy can succeed in Iran" means "we are not ready to attack them yet

Four more wars! Four more wars! Four more wars!

[fedsron2us]

30. Agreed. Its Venezuela next then Iran

eom

[Mark E. Smith]

31. Can Anyone Actually Believe Anything This Woman Says?

Schroeder and the leaders of all the other countries Condi has decided to visit during her image creation world tour are treating her like the idiot relative they are obliged to humor for a day or two. I can't imagine they're taking anything this proven liar and possible war criminal has to say the least little bit seriously.

Photo op, talk shop, send her on her way.

And take a good hot shower as soon as she's gone.