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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 04:59 PM
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Bush Budget Would Cut Law Enforcement Aid
******************sh** man check out these feaking cuts.........alot more at link

By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites)'s budget will propose slashing grants to local law enforcement agencies and cutting spending for environmental protection, American Indian schools and home-heating aid for the poor, The Associated Press learned Saturday.




Bush molded the roughly $2.5 trillion spending plan for 2006 as a response to a string of record federal deficits, and is sends it to Congress on Monday.

The budget, the toughest he has written since entering the White House four years ago, seeks about half the increase for school districts in low-income communities he requested last year and a slight reduction for the National Park Service.

Many proposals face an unclear fate in Congress, where members of both parties are sure to defend favorite initiatives. Democrats blame the cuts on the tax reductions Bush has enacted and say that other items his budget omits — a Social Security (news - web sites) overhaul and costs for wars in Iraq (news - web sites) and Afghanistan (news - web sites) — will only make matters worse. more at:


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050205/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_budget_1
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 05:00 PM
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1. but left plenty for tax cuts for the uber wealthy! n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 05:12 PM
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8. It's suppose to trickle down..
Edited on Sat Feb-05-05 06:01 PM by zidzi
The uber wealthy get wealthy off the rest of us..but can't pay their fair share of taxes.

I know there are some people who make a lot of money that want to help the country..it's just the greedy idiots who worship at the alter of chimpdom that are selling the USA down the river.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 05:46 PM
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11. The trickle down is just Amercans getting peed on.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:07 PM
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14. All the money that the criminals steal will trickle down to the poor!
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:56 PM
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21. trickle down economics has never worked and never will. You can only
keep so many gardners and yacht builders employed.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 05:02 PM
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2. The Columbine situation
"Also gone would be assistance for police departments to improve technology and their ability to communicate with other agencies."

This was fingered as one of the biggest problems at Columbine - the police couldn't talk to the SWAT team, and neither could talk to the fire dept. All different radio frequencies.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 05:04 PM
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4. also
The Bureau of Indians Affairs would be sliced by $100 million to $2.2 billion. The reduction would come almost entirely from the agency's effort to build more schools. (yet we send our moey for Iraqi schools)

The $2.2 billion program that provides low-income people — in large part the elderly — with home-heating aid would be cut to $2 billion. Sen. Charles Schumer (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y., said the reduction would be "wrong-headed an inappropriate," especially with this season's jump in oil prices.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 05:17 PM
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9. Wow.
It just gets worse the more you look at it.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:18 PM
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15. And in the WTC
Wasn't there an issue with some of the firefighters' radios not working, thus, some of them didn't hear the command to evacuate immediately after the first tower fell?
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:36 PM
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44. That's what I thought too..
.. their radios didn't work (or it wasn't on the same frequency, I can't remember), which led to a disaster for the FDNY & NYPD.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 05:03 PM
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3. So much for Homeland security...
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 05:09 PM
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7. nah.
bush doesn't want the local and state authorities to have enough power to stand up to federal armies and police.

thus, cut spending. draw their forces way down. then, when the final conquest comes, the police wouldn't be able to fight and we wouldn't have a chance.

anyone feeling a cold chill in your spines by now? well, you should.

start looking into hiding places. build them into your house, or your cellar.
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 07:13 PM
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25. Just goes to show you: B*sh was NEVER serious about Homeland Security
Never was, never will be. It was all a show.
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MNDEM2004 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:29 AM
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41. What homeland security?
Where I live a small town was given a new truck from the dept. of homeland security and then told they can't use it unless there is a national crisis.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 03:10 PM
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46. I know, but we did get a nice color code system didn't we?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 05:05 PM
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5. the Park Service is being cut again!! (all these cuts are critical I
know, but I am partial to the Park Service and thte National Parks.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 05:31 PM
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10. After all the trees in the parks are gone and the parks have
been stripped mined, what do we need Park Rangers for?
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:57 PM
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22. to guard the mud!n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 05:09 PM
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6. I wonder if all those "law enforcement"
people had a clue of this when they supported the little dic-tator?
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 05:53 PM
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12. wake me when this nightmare is over...
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 05:56 PM
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13. Oh, who cares!!!!
America gets what it votes for. Too bad that those of us who voted against Bush have to suffer also.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:21 PM
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16. Perkins loan program as well
Will pretty much be eliminated altogether according to an alert I got from the Chronicle of Higher Ed right before I left work. As a recipient of Perkins and Stafford loans who was only able to go to school with these federal programs (never could get a Pell Grant; my parents made too much money despite the fact that they occasionally got groceries from the local food bank), I'm appalled.

So, add another couple 100K teenagers who will see the military as their only option for going to college.
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skepticalndnc Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:29 PM
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17. Couple of small notes of impact re: these cuts
Theresa Chambers, head of the Park Service was fired last year for publicly stating that the Park Service was understaffed to the point that they could not do the job the agency was expected to do. She fought like a pit bull to keep her position stating that her first amendment rights were violated, that she had the right to publicly state the obvious, and lost! Also, a relative who is the police chief in a small Southern town received $40,000 in federal supplements under Clinton. This money was cut to $14,000 last year under Bush. To cut it more basically means that small towns get no federal supplements?
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 07:30 PM
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27. One note
Chambers was chief of the Park Service Police, not the Park Service overall. Which makes the situation even more disturbing, since these are the folks responsible for large swaths of the nation's capital.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:43 PM
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18. Local law enforcement is the frontline in the war on terror.
Bush ran on a platform of keeping us safe. I guess it's more important to give tax breaks for the well to do who can afford their own private security while leaving the rest of us in harms way.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:55 PM
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19. Will the Governors of states protest?
The cuts will devastate the states that are already under a heavy financial burden,mainly the so called red states.

Speaking of the rich and taxes:

"I'll give you one other thought. Let me just leave you with one other thought about taxing the rich. You know how that works. A lot of the rich are able to get accountants, so they don't -- they're able to dodge. You've seen it before. We're going to tax the rich, and then they figure out how not to get taxed. So guess who ends up paying? You do. And we're not going to let him do it to us. We're not going to let him wreck that economy by running up our taxes. "

Who stated the above?


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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:56 PM
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20. We must keep our priorities straight: more bucks for the reconstruction
of Iraq must be our first priority.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:58 PM
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23. More libraries for Iraq!! n/t
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 07:04 PM
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24. Built by, would it be, Halliburton
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Nightwing Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 07:22 PM
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26. Wonderful News
Only from the perspective of having several police officers as friends while watching them support *. Not good for us citizens, but the police supported the moron.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 07:31 PM
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28. Hehe, I'm gonna send that to the Campus Police printer on Monday
and Tuesday, and Wednesday :D
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:50 PM
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29. kick
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 08:34 AM
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30. all states
should refuse to send their men out when bush comes to stump in them..
with his "visits" he is costing the states money and man power....causing traffic jams and traffic rerouting......he done it here(FL)............he wants to cut?........will he must cut his traveling all over hell.

and why didn't he suggest a cut when he had many many agencies protecting his sorry ass at his "BIG PARTY"..........his highly guarded swearing in .........????????????
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:17 AM
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31. Bush Budget Calls for Law Enforcement Cuts
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050206/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_budget

<snip>

According to figures obtained by the AP, Bush would slice a $600 million grant program for local police agencies to $60 million next year. Grants to local firefighters, for which Congress provided $715 million this year, would fall to $500 million.


He would eliminate the $300 million the government gives to states for incarcerating illegal aliens who commit crimes. It's a proposal he has made in the past and one that Congress has ignored. Also gone would be assistance for police departments to improve technology and their ability to communicate with other agencies.


The Environmental Protection Agency (news - web sites)'s $8.1 billion would drop by $450 million, or about 6 percent, with most of the reductions coming in water programs and projects won by lawmakers for their home districts.


The Bureau of Indians Affairs would be sliced by $100 million to $2.2 billion. The reduction would come almost entirely from the agency's effort to build more schools.

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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:17 AM
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32. So, it appears he isn't for anything, but war....
:eyes: :cry: I guess now might be the last wake-up call for his voters to see through the BS. I guess we will see just how 'asleep at the wheel' his supporters truly are.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:17 AM
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33. But, but but ...
TERRA !! Homeland Security ! Plastic Sheeting ! Duct Tape !

Booga Booga !!!


This is totally disgusting ! They are totally looting this country's infrastructure and routing all of the money to their military contractor pals. AND NOBODY WILL SAY A GODDAMN WORD ABOUT IT !!!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:17 AM
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34. Well said, and true. No one sees the elephant in the room.. EOM
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:17 AM
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35. I hope those firemen and police officers who endorsed him are real happy.
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DeaconBlues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:21 AM
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36. firemen and police officers endorsed Bush?
I thought most of those organizations went for Kerry becuase their leadership knew Bush was short-changing the first-responders. I could be wrong, though.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:45 AM
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37. There were many police and firefighters the GOP got to go to their
convention. Also, many, especially in conservative cities supported him.
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:02 AM
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38. To those who supported the chimp:
It's time to reap what you have sewn (and may God help the rst of us!)
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:47 AM
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42. Exactly. n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:12 AM
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39. Geez. This could undermine the drug war.
Drug pushers could be "emboldened" by this.
Federal authority could be undermined.
Tsk tsk tsk.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:26 AM
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40. Even with no cuts to law enforcement, there will be a dramatic increase
in local crime. In the Twin Cities we have had two serial bank robbers this year. I expect theft will increase because unemployment and low wages will take its toll. The kids still need to eat.

Bush* started a downward spiral and he won't be able to stop it. The rest of the World can see this. So much for the American Empire, it lasted about 15 years. Bushes'* grandchildren will be able to read (assuming they aren't fetal alcohol impaired) about it right alongside of the Fall of Rome, Greek city states and Ancient Egypt. It took hundred of years for Rome to fall, Bush* did it to America in less than 8.

But I'm glad he's the president. Kerry might have set Bush* up for this. (Too much tin-foil.)
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PapaJoe Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:36 PM
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45. The tipping point/\
could be the new preference for the euro. it is not the Social Security Trust Fund in danger, it is the U.S Government.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:33 PM
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43. Cutting home-heating aid for the poor...
compassionate conservatism at its finest.
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