Bush to Propose Billions in Cuts-budget plan to Congress on Monday

[LiviaOlivia]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-cuts6feb06,0,5530657.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Bush to Propose Billions in Cuts
Farm subsidies and food stamps are among the targets in the 2006 budget plan, to be sent to Congress on Monday. Opposition is building.

By Joel Havemann and Mary Curtius
Times Staff Writers

February 6, 2005

WASHINGTON — President Bush will propose a 2006 budget Monday that, despite record spending of about $2.5 trillion, will call for billions of dollars in cuts that will touch people on food stamps and farmers on price supports, children under Medicaid and adults in public housing.

Even before the budget is officially sent to Congress on Monday, resistance to Bush's proposals was welling up Saturday from interest groups that benefit from federal aid and from the members of Congress who represent them.

~snip~

The cuts are being proposed as the president is striving to keep a campaign promise to rein in government spending and halve the federal deficit in five years. The deficit has soared since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and the subsequent war on terrorism — and as revenue has fallen as the economy has slowed and tax cuts have taken effect.

In addition to the cuts proposed in the 2006 budget, Bush is expected to ask Congress to approve in principle many billions of dollars in additional, unspecified cuts.

~snip~



Here it comes.

[Be Brave]

1. Of course, children and the poor.

Letting them starve and die will be this president's legacy.

[jdots]

2. Who has become very rich since 9/11 ?

Karl lets see if we can get minimum wage down to about 20 cents an hour,but we let them keep thier t.v.s so they don't revolt.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. Pay attention to the misery index

also I am starting to notice that people are getting radicalized... and I don't mean you and me... I mean people who are either repuke or dem because daddy was such, but never paid close attention to politics

[LiviaOlivia]

3. Items on the hit list:

Farm price supports
Food Stamps
Medicaid
Housing and Community development
Amtrak
"unspecified cuts"

[MyDogSpot]

4. Half of America voted for this

Now they've got it. Congrats, fools.

[Dark]

25. No, half of America's voters voted against gays and babykillers.

They were too stupid to realize that meant that they would lose their benefits as well. They seem to have thought that Bush would only vote on these issues.

on edit: clarification.

[dbt]

28. No, the media TELLS us that half of Murka voted that way.

There's still the very real probability that the voting was rigged. Damn, but the parlor is just full of elephants these days!

:freak:
dbt

[Dark]

29. You don't believe that a third of America is that stupid?

Remember, only two-thirds voted. Half of the voters wanted this.

As for the rigging, nothing's been proven yet, so until it is, I am not going to run around screaming conspiracy theories.

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. I have news for ya

they did it so well that yuo never will be able to prove it in a court of law... when this nightmare is over though, historians will have loads of fun.... (robgeorgia file for instance)

[Don1]

43. Where is the current proof?

Do you find it at least interesting that major news networks were disallowed by Bush to talk about exit polls until all "official" vote tallies were concluded? Then, sometime later after Kerry conceded, the exit polls were all made public? Your claim is that it is a coincidence that later the exit polls all point to Kerry as the winner? Okay, perhaps.

The exit polls actually themselves have some oddities. Edison / Mitofsky recently released a report stating that Dems were more likely than Repubs to answer the polls. However, guess what? There again was no mathematical proof or mathematical evidence of that claim in the report. Guess when the report was released? The day before the Inauguration. Your claim is that a report making statistical conclusions with no statistical evidence for those conclusions being released at a politically convenient time is coincidence, too, right? Ok, perhaps.

However, (1) it has been proven by statisticians at Berkeley that the irregular "extra-votes" for Bush in Florida were correlated with optical scanners or other hitech voting options; (2) it has been proven by statisticians that the assertions made by the Edison / Mitofsky report were professionally unacceptable; (3) it has been proven by statisticians that the idea of election fraud has some evidence and cannot at this time be discounted as a viable hypothesis.
http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/USCountVotes_Re_Mitofsky-Edison.pdf

I choose to believe in the power of mathematics and science and as such I choose to be agnostic on the issue of election fraud at this time. There are many suspicious events and mathematical facts right now and so the numbers need to be analyzed even further before a conclusion either way is made.

It is your choice to believe the assertions made by mainstream media, but bear in mind that people such as myself are not running around screaming conspiracy theory. I am rational and those types of suggestions about me running around screaming are quite insulting. If you think that I am not rational, then I am calling you out. Show your math.

[cornermouse]

5. "unspecified cuts"

I wonder what that includes...

As far as food stamps and medicaid, children are going to be hungry and sick again. That's going to have a direct effect on their ability to learn in school. This is a bad time to be a child in the United States.

[Kindigger]

6. Oh well...

If I live to see 2008, I'll get to watch Iowa turn BLUE. :dem:

[cornermouse]

10. Hold on tight.

I think its going to get really bad over the next 4 years. After that, I think a lot of states will be going blue.

[hadrons]

12. don't be too sure on those 'blue' statements ....

Bush and the rest of the GOP can take a huge shit on their supporters' heads and convince most of them that they just got a free hat

[Dark]

30. LOL! That would be so much funnier if it wasn't so true. n/t

[snippy]

36. Outstanding!

I think I should let you know that I already have decided to steal that line.

[Magleetis]

21. Not so fast

The repugs are masters of manipulation and they still have their ace in the hole, the Christianity card.

[acmavm]

35. NO, they have the FAKE CHRISTIANITY CARD. Nothing that man and

his bunch of thugs co-conspirators has done, is doing, or will do is in any way related to true Christianity. NOTHING. That's why he's getting away with all this crap. The lie that bush** is a caring compassionate Christian keeps being repeated over and over and over, and fools believe it. That's all it is, a lie. And if we could get that truth across to people, maybe their eyes would open up and they'd see just how badly they've been taken.

[fishface]

8. you left of bio-terror funding and emergency services.

we don't need those as badly as his contributors need their tax cuts

Bush Budget Calls for Cuts in Health Services
By ROBERT PEAR

ASHINGTON, Feb. 4 - President Bush's budget for 2006 cuts spending for a wide range of public health programs, including several to protect the nation against bioterrorist attacks and to respond to medical emergencies, budget documents show.

Faced with constraints on spending caused by record budget deficits and the demands of the war in Iraq, administration officials said on Friday that they had increased the budget for some health programs but cut many others, including some that address urgent health care needs.

The documents show, for example, that Mr. Bush would cut spending for several programs that deal with epidemics, chronic diseases and obesity. His plan would also cut the budget of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention by 9 percent, to $6.9 billion, the documents show.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/05/politics/05cuts.html?ei=5065&en=7194f501c09c1ac8&ex=1108270800&adxnnl=1&partner=MYWAY&adxnnlx=1107584946-FUSWarxd0NtKBPPSUUql4g&pagewanted=print&position=

[blonndee]

7. How likely are these cuts to be approved by Congress, do you think? n/t

[Disturbed]

9. Will Dems be appeasers again?

It is way past time that Dems start opposing the Bush Junta Fascists.

[Wright Patman]

15. They should just not vote

If they vote 'no' as a bloc, they will be painted as "obstructionist" by the fascist media. They will be called 'socialists' and 'big spenders' and all further casualties in Iraq will be attributed to them. You know the drill.

By abstaining, they will be saying to the GOP. You cut everything you want and we will let the voters decide in 2006 whether they like what you've done.

The biggest issue for the Dems from now until then is to implement voter verification through paper trails and hard copies. To hell with this touchscreen and central tabulation crap.

[cornermouse]

20. Not voting could be viewed as a failure to meet their responsibility.

I'm sorry, but in my opinion, they should be up front and just go ahead, vote against it.

[Auntie Bush]

33. He'll get huge cuts! Here's his strategy.

Say he really wants/expects to cut the budget by $1000. He asks for $2000. Congress does an excellent job and reins in the budget...cuts it in half...down to $1000. Wallah! Now everybody is happy! No one takes any heat/loses job...just the American people.

Bush goes down in history as the great compromiser/politician and all of congress gets re-elected...did a great job of controlling our run a way deficit! In 2008 they can all claim to have decreased taxes. The wonders of Democracy!!!!!

[Pepperbelly]

11. haven't they already floated trial balloons re: vet health care/housing?nt

[MSgt213]

13. government spending on people in need is way out of control. Mean while

our corporations are just managing to survive.

[Bark Bark Bark]

14. Anyone Remember...THIS?

"We'll pay for it out of the surplus! We'll pay for it ALLLLLLLL out of the surplus!"

Like the UN Inspectors, Gore saw through that crap and tried to warn us, but Li'l Dubbie still got his way--because half of America is stupid, and almost all of it is complacent. Who will be next to join them on the "Told You So" Wagon? Climate scientists?

[rodeodance]

17. lots of farm prog. cuts are from the heartland and the South--they

will have to live with Bush's smirk--they voted for him. Now he turned on them.. Let the battle begin!!

[cornermouse]

19. I suspect that there is going to be an increase in farmer

bankruptcy and farmland up for sale, cheap.

Two things:

I wonder who's going to the buyer.

It seems to me that this has the potential to be a really bad idea.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

23. ADM

I wonder who's going to the buyer.

[cornermouse]

26. Maybe.

Then again, I was wondering about foreign entities.

Just supposing. What happens if they buy up a large percentage of land and don't grow anything on it for a few years? Maybe this is tin hat thinking, a lot of the stuff Bush is doing would have been considered to be in the tin hat category in the not very distant past.

[blonndee]

34. Even more tin-foil hatty: some of that farmland has water, the new oil. nt

[bling bling]

16. That's the Christian spirit, shrub.

Feed the rich, shit on the poor. And he expects us to believe he follows Jesus.

[DoYouEverWonder]

18. So he continues to blow a billion a week in Iraq

stuffing the pockets of Halliburton & Co but the rest of us are going to have cut back.

[LostinVA]

22. Native American Schools

On a thread in GD, I pointed out how most of the ten poorest counties in the US are Indian reservations. They have NOTHING. Now, that frigging false Christian Bush is taking away a huge slice of what they DO have. I know form experience that Native American schools are shockingly under equipped, from facilities, lunches, teachers, etc. These people disgust em.

And using Jesus' name for all of this makes me sick. No matter who you think he was, he was a loving, compassionate man. "Suffer the little children," George, remember THAT in the Bible???

[Dark]

24. Tax cuts have taken effect? What effect? Our economy's still crappy. n/t

[bluedog]

27. Congress to * FU

no permanent TAX cuts....NO more money for IRAQ...........no more foreign aid.......... Money put to use outside the United States must be MATCHED $$$ for $$$ to go into our own country............

this should be a rider on all $$$$$$$$$$ .........bush wants to get for his priorities!!!!!!!!

[okoboji]

37. forcing the people

that are effected by the programs that are cut to find "jeesus" and get their aid from faith based orgs.

this will be a country of nothing but christians - if you arn't, get out now

[w4rma]

38. No it won't. It'll be a country of bandits and thieves. (nt)

[yorkiemommie1]

39. Reds won't make the connection

if subsidies get cut, it's because 'those people' are slackers, unlike themselves who work for everything they've got.

two examples of fundie logic:

1. "you know those shows where they go in and re- do a person's house? well, they only do that for people who are down and out. why don't they do it for people like me?" (maybe because you are a healthy young building contractor?)

2. " i believe in people working for what they get " ... uh...

but wasn't your grownup son uninsured and having his medical services at Harbor UCLA hospital? " yes. --- silence. "

[Moderator]

40. kick

[Judi Lynn]

41. Tight US budget would spare military, international spending

Tight US budget would spare military, international spending
(AFP)

7 February 2005



WASHINGTON - The budget for fiscal 2006, which President George W. Bush sends to Congress on Monday, would slice federal funding for a wide array of domestic programs, but increase military and international spending.

The budget totals a record 2.5 trillion dollars in spending but does not include future expenses of the ongoing military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, which will be the subject of separate supplemental requests, The Washington Post reported.

The proposal grants the Pentagon an extra 19 billion dollars, bringing its annual operating budget to 419.3 billion dollars for the 2006 fiscal year, a 12-month period starting October 1 this year.

On the international front, Bush has earmarked 3.2 billion for fighting AIDS worldwide in 2006 and increased foreign operations and development aid by 17 percent, the paper said.
(snip/...)

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/theworld/2005/February/theworld_February173.xml§ion=theworld&col=

[Disturbed]

42. King George pisses..

on their heads and they still believe it's raining.