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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:34 PM
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Poll: French, Germans see little hope for improved ties with U.S.
WASHINGTON — By large margins, the French and Germans disapprove of President Bush's handling of foreign policy, a poll says.

The German Marshall Fund survey was released Monday, two weeks before Bush departs on a European tour that will include a meeting with French President Jacques Chirac and a visit to Germany.

The Fund supports strong ties between the United States and its European allies.

The poll said 62 percent of French citizens "disapprove very much" of Bush's foreign policies. Fifty-nine percent of Germans felt the same way.

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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:36 PM
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1. Well
I can't say I'm surprised.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:37 PM
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2. Only 62% in France?
If I ever get to Europe ..I'm going to have plenty of tee shirts and buttons that let People know where I stand as an American citizen.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:39 PM
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5. You just get into conversation with them and let them know how you feel...
...and you'll have many, many new friends.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 12:04 AM
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11. When I went to Canada over
Labor Day last year ..I wore my Kerry/Edwards pin and got into many great conversations with those lovely Canadians!
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:37 PM
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3. cheers to our European friends..
:beer:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:38 PM
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4. Didn't Condoleeza say France needed to be punished and Germany ignored?
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 11:40 PM by Hissyspit
...for seeing the truth. And now she's "Secretary of State." Why should they want anything to do with us?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:42 PM
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6. Give 'em four years.
They'll come around.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:49 PM
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9. LOL.
That's what naive Murkans thought 4 years ago. It's what they always think.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 12:00 AM
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10. Point taken.
But "naive" Americans thought nothing of the sort.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 12:21 AM
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14. Sure they did.
Ir's more or less a constant. American chauvinists have historically assumed that the rest of the world will eventually adopt whatever the U.S. decides upon if only because of the economic consequences of not going along with the program. I don't see 2001 as an exception to the pattern. In fact I'd say that a major reason Bushco rushed into invading Iraq without a significant coalition is because they figured that once they were in and the fighting started the old allies would fall in line and come to the rescue.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 12:26 AM
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15. Point taken.
But you're confusing the kings with the serfs.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:44 PM
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7. And, they should "shun" the US until a new president is elected!
Wouldn't it be something if NO ONE in Europe would meet with Condi Or Junior Or Cheney Or Rumsfeld Or Pickles?

:D

:hi:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:44 PM
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8. They're right to feel this way. Most of the right-wingers who voted
for Bush don't really like foreigners and will probably never leave this continent, unless they enlist. I heard one say that all the foreign animosity is okay with her, because at least it's safe to travel in this country. She was never going to take a trip outside the USA, anyway.

And when I went to get a passport and hated my picture enough to take another, the right-wing nutcase said, "What does it matter, only a foreigner will see it."
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:37 AM
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17. Charming.
I bet that person is quite empathetic to the homeless, poor and disadvantaged!
What a shamelessly arrogant thing to say and think.
:eyes:
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 12:06 AM
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12. Condi has the credibility and diplomatic skills to fix this. - n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:33 AM
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16. Condi is nothing but a mouthpiece for W
Edited on Tue Feb-08-05 01:34 AM by Erika
who has done nothing but screw the world since 2000. Unless, you're rich.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:30 AM
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21. Ahem - " Condi has the credibility" ... uh
with whom does she have credibility ?

She doesn't have any credibility in America much less Germany and France.

The entire administration doesn't have any credibility outside of its own chorus and contributors.

Are you visiting here or what?
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:29 AM
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23. Condo Lizard and her Reptilian Brain--not much to see here-- move on-
Reptilians have limited capacity.
Not much to write about.
Lies are the stong point of the Reptilians.
Lies to justify hording and Lies to justify extermination of any opposition.
Lies Lies Lies and Self Admiration.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:29 PM
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26. When is the last time she told the truth?
Go ahead. Struggle. I can't think of anything. Can you?

You're correct about no credibility, but I think that's putting it mildly. Someone who was accidentally wrong all the time would lack credibility. Someone who intentionally tells lies all the time is just an outright liar (and Secretary of State).
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 12:21 AM
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13. Let's hope their leaders are pressed into the same views
as their constituents.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 01:41 AM
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18. You think it's bad NOW? Just wait...
...until they try to grab him to put him on trial for War Crimes.

Then, talk about BAD relations.

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:18 AM
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19. People in "Old Europe" actually read. Informed people distrust Bush.
And rightly so.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 02:27 AM
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20. Could it be that...
they just can't get on board with killing some people is fun and torture is OK mentality?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:50 AM
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24. Agreed.
After visiting Europe a number of times, it has become clear that the majority of Americans don't know too much and don't want to know too much.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:22 AM
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22.  Arab press report- Rice told of US-Israel attack plans on Iran
...in Brussels on Feb. 6. I'm sure that and the superbowl paroxysm of belligerent nationalism went over poorly.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:05 PM
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25. kick
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