Rove Gets Bigger Role at White House

[Up2Late]

Tue Feb 8, 2005 12:19 PM ET

DETROIT (Reuters) - President Bush's senior adviser, Karl Rove, will take on a wider role in developing and coordinating policy in the president's second term, the White House announced on Tuesday.

Rove, who was Bush's top political strategist during his 2000 and 2004 presidential campaigns, will become a deputy White House chief of staff in charge of coordinating policy between the White House Domestic Policy Council, National Economic Council, National Security Council and Homeland Security Council.

Rove will continue to oversee White House strategy to advance Bush's agenda and will "make sure we have an open and fair process for the development of policy and to make sure the policy is complementary and consistent with the various councils," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.

"He is one of the president's most trusted advisers who has played an integral role in strategy and policy development for a long time," McClellan said.
(more at link)
<http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=7570886§ion=news>

[cthrumatrix]

1. in other words the "puppet master" who get his orders from the global

elite.

[sabra]

2. That's scary stuff!

[Jack_Dawson]

3. Another string for the puppetteer?

:puke:

[diamond14]

4. bush* could have picked someone with a COLLEGE DEGREE...

doesn't OUR safety demand AT LEAST a college degree? If applying through regular Federal applications, rove wouldn't get past the first step for his lack of a college degree....


rove doesn't even have the brains or the discipline to finish college...his ONLY qualification is that he's a barnyard BULLY, nasty, and sucks up to the chimp....

[paineinthearse]

7. As if.....

*'s Yale "C" average and his "bought" Harvard MBA are worth anything?

[diamond14]

12. which is precisely why bush* NEEDS someone with the "DISCIPLINE

MOTIVATION and BRAINS" to accomplish a minimal college degree...


hell, rove flunked out of schools in texas, and that doesn't say much about his abilities....the ONLY credential that rove has: he's a BULLY, a nasty vicious BULLY....


likely he got that way because of his lack of ability in any area...so he just POUNDS ON PEOPLE...


and bush* choice emphasizes that bush* is INCAPABLE of selecting the proper personnel to serve on the White House staff....WE ARE IN DANGER...just like when conda-sleezy sat there and did nothing, as a memo flashed "Osama bin Laden determined to attack inside the USA !"



"huh"...don't ask me, I'm a Soviet Union expert...I KNOW NOTHING about any other country, including Russia....

[applegrove]

75. People like him do not give up power in the end.

Bush would be nowhere without Rove. This is Rove's reward. I cannot wait to see what idiot Rove lashes onto next in the next Presidential election.

Being a master at lies is nothing to be proud of. Neither is being grandiose (a twenty Republican Presidency is what Rove expects), manipulative (got fired for Willie Horton), a liar (character assassinations), a baiter (wounded should be hit harder and harder), and someone who was around when electronic bugs were put into candidate's offices and blamed on the opposition at opportune times in elections. Rove wants a bigger role because Rove is empty and like Saddam Hussein will endlessly need to consolidate his power.

People like him do not give up power in the end. They just need more and more. And it would take someone as stupid as Bush to give the guy more power.

[Catshrink]

28. No, then he would be one of those "intellectual elites."

And we know they're all secular humanists and commie liberals.

[Spacejet]

34. This is offensive to those of us

with out a college degree.

The lack of a degree does not necessarily mean one is not intellegent. And there are plenty of people with degrees that are extremely incompotent. (just look at the republican party for some examples)

[elsiesummers]

37. I agree

although I have a college degree. I have never thought my degree was worth the paper it was printed on. I learned very little in college. Only thing it gave me was some sort of personal validation - that I finished something I started. I think ability or competency, or even intellectualism, have little to do with college credentials.

I see Rove as a sort of evil genius. The problem with Rove is not lack of ability or lack of knowledge - more a lack of humanity - and that is not the sort of thing taught at college.

[Placebo]

5. President Rove?

I wish we had someone as good...err...bad...umm..."skilled" as Rove on our side.

[nashville_brook]

8. we do, only problem is he's 12

my best friends' child is 12 and has Aspergers and he will be the Dem's Rove. it's a beautiful thing to see...

but seriously... this is mind boggling. Rove taking MORE of a role. it's seems so rude. shouldn't somebody let The Boy drive for a while.

[Mithras61]

6. Doesn't this mean that his unofficial role...

is now official? I mean, as far as I can tell, nothing here has really changed other than he isn't behind the curtain anymore...

[AngryOldDem]

26. Here's the pecking order

1) Rove
2) Hagin
3) Gerson
4) Bush

At least they're being somewhat honest by letting us know who's really in charge.

[AlinPA]

39. You got it. This story is bullshit. Rove has been in charge since day 1.

Its his war, his agenda, his SS plan, his "Clear Skies Initiative", etc, in concert with Grover Norquist. Bush** is just their spokesman. Stupid media. Stupid voters.

[Kool Kitty]

60. That's exactly what I thought, when I heard this.

Now it's official.

[burythehatchet]

9. oops..headline made me think Rove gets first dibs on the

breakfast pastry tray

[Up2Late]

10. Anyone think this means Rove is out of the 2008 Campaign?

I mean for someone Other than *?

I'm fairly sure I know the answer to this, But, could a President issue an "Executive Order" to allow him to run for a 3rd term?

[onehandle]

15. Uh. no.

Also, a political strategist usually has topped off with a successful Presidential campaign. He'll be working for fascists in other countries after smirk is gone.

[Helga Scow Stern]

23. He said he has a forty year plan he wants to be sure is in place here.

[ClayZ]

40. I bet he does. BLOODY HANDS!

It has taken him his whole life of conniving, to get to where he is. In the interim he has his filthy fingerprints on most tipping points in the fall of OUR country!




:kick: :kick:

[Helga Scow Stern]

22. What do you mean?

Rove already has said he won't be running any more campaigns. Heck, they don't have to--they got Diebold, and now its main opposer in the govt. has been forced out of office and made an example of.

[Up2Late]

27. O.K., Let me see if I under stand...

You say, "Rove already has said he won't be running any more campaigns..." But, everything Rove says is a LIE, so if he is lying, than that means he is going to be running more campains...:crazy:

O.K. it doesn't work as well as on the "I, Mudd" episode of "Star Trek," I guess what I'm saying is, Why would you believe ANYTHING Rove says?

He IS the Devil!

[ClayZ]

47. Believe the Opposite of whatever he says or does.

HE is big time trouble.

:kick:

[Spacejet]

36. Well if Rove says it

it must be true, right?

[Spacejet]

35. Yes, he could

Executive orders are extremely powerful.

However, keep in mind they can be reversed by the courts as unconstitutional or congress. Which such an order certainly would be.

[Art_from_Ark]

62. Executive orders are not supposed to override the Constitution

If Lieutenant Smirky attempted such a thing, would the American people accept it?

Probably. :argh:

[CoffeeCat]

11. Does anyone else get the feeling...

...that Cheney nursed * along during the first term, and now Cheney is sorta out of the picture now?

Cheney seemed to serve as mentor, for the chimp boy. Now, armed with his "mandate" and Rove--it feels like * may have no use for Cheney's role.

If true, I wonder if Cheney resents the little monster he's helped to create?

[Julius Civitatus]

13. Rove is the UNELECTED PRESIDENT of the USA

As the documentary "Bush's Brain" clearly stated, Karl Rove is the de-facto president of the USA in the shadows. This increase in his roles, now directly writing policy is even scarier. Karl Rove is rigth now the most influential man in the planet.

Just to remind you: Nobody elected this bastard to public office. He is an appointed official basically functioning as the real president, since Bush now is delegating even policy-making to his brain and minder: Rove.

Even darker times ahead, folks.

[AlinPA]

42. I agree with you 100%.

[BootinUp]

14. "Run for your lives"

Thats just my reaction. ;)

[ClayZ]

44. Keeping my boots by the back door! eom

:kick:

[MaineDem]

16. The Josh Lyman of the BFEE?

:puke:

[AngryOldDem]

41. That was my first thought....

Gee...he's taking on the jobs of roughly both Leo McGarry and Josh Lyman....

Watching way too many West Wing reruns.

[MaineDem]

50. That show is my virtual reality

SOmehow for an hour the world is alright!

[AngryOldDem]

77. Know what you mean

As Aaron Sorkin says, the show proves how the system CAN work -- how idealism should not be a fool's game.

Whenever I watch I keep thinking, "If only..."

[Vinnie From Indy]

17. As Long As Rove Can FIX Elections, He Will Be In Power!

Anyone want to bet that the candidate Rove works with for '08 wins?

[ClayZ]

49. Maybe with Dean will fix THEIR machine!

:spank:

little jingle, huh!


:kick:

[geekgrrl]

18. is that even possible? n/t

[Robert Oak]

19. Rove is President, Bush is the front man

Rove is probably the most frightening power hungry psychotic the world
has seen in 60 years. He is already making policy...he is the coordinating force that gets idiots in Iowa to vote to have their
benefits taken away, their pensions denied and their social security benefits cut.

How can he get an "increasing role" unless he's now king of the "new world order".

[deacon2]

20. The Turd Blossom in the punch bowl

He has been running America since 2000 with the help of Dick Cheney. Or maybe it's been a battle of "who's on top" but either way we're the ones who get screwed. Nothing new here imho. But that doesn't make it any less worrisome for finally making it official.

[ClayZ]

45. The "TTBITPB" has seeds that go way back before the

fruit trees were planted for the punch in the bowl!



"The Turd Blossom in the punch bowl" LOL



:kick:

[yellowcanine]

21. Oh goody. Lardass gets even more power.

[David Zephyr]

24. How can Rove have a "bigger role"? Does this mean he gets the Oval Office?

Certainly, Rove has already had the job of actually being President for four years. Perhaps, since he can't have the title, he gets the office.

...or maybe they'll play "Hail to the Thief" for him on special occasions?

...or maybe he will get to poke Condi every once in a while when George feels obliged (in a good Christian way, of course) to pay more attention to Laura?

...or when Laura herself is tired of Condi?

Yeah, that's probably it. Maureen Dowd's "triangle" will become a quadruple.

;-)

[genieroze]

25. Holy Crap

:wtf:

[n2mark]

29. I'm sure Rove

has a line of republicans on their knees at his office door begging for help for the 2006 and 2008 elections. He is their "godchild".

[NYC Liberal]

30. His role as known to the public has increased, they mean.

He's always been the puppeteer and had a large influence behind the scenes, along with Cheney.

[mitchum]

31. Call me a bastard, but I WILL celebrate the death of that psychopath...

and make no mistake, the motherfucker IS a psychopath. He has experienced much "emotional hurt" in his life: his own bastardry, the suicide of his mother, his own "imperfect" child. He is intent on making the world pay for these "transgressions"
He is dangerous.

[Supersedeas]

32. Political Dirty tricks meets pay-dirt...you give us election results--we

give you 'Merika POWER.

[ClayZ]

33. KKKARL R0VE is evil. Evil is as Evil does.

Read "EXPOSÉ: THE “CHRISTIAN” MAFIA" in Editorials and Other Articles this morning.

WE ARE IN BIG TROUBLE!

[Generator]

38. Why doesn't someone find the dirt on Rove

C'mon I know there is something really rotten about the guy beyond the ideology and his plan to ruin the country.

Why aren't we as nasty as the competition?

IS he married? A cheater? An alcoholic? Something much much worse?

Where's Larry Flynt when you need him?

I can hear the purists...oh we can't lose our souls to save our souls.. but why not? This man needs to go down. It's a natural karma. I'm waiting.. we only have four years.

[Verve]

46. We need to start an organized effort to out all of Rove's skeletons.

I'm sure their numerous.

[MADem]

48. TRUTH isn't dirt

When people make up tales, that's rotten, dirty tricks. When people reveal the creature behind the mask, that's good reporting. I distinguish between the two. Gone forever are the days when if you couldn't say something nice, you shouldn't say anything at all.

We've a right to know if he talks the talk, yet does not walk the walk.

[fooj]

54. Amen!

[rocktivity]

43. We should have outed him long ago as the real power behind Bush's throne!

Maybe with Howard Dean at the helm, we still can...

:think:
rocknation

[leQ]

51. ever since i saw heir karl on one of the sunday shows...

i had no doubt, he was the puppet of someone else. he's a bumbling idiot when off script.

[Plaid Adder]

52. What, bigger than RUNNING it?

I'm sorry, I don't see how his role could possibly get any bigger unless he ATE the White House.

Maybe that's what they have planned. At least that would be entertaining.

Sigh,

The Plaid Adder

[NYC]

53. I interpret "bigger role" as "greater acknowledgement.

No real change, just that they admit to the public that Role (Bush's brain) has a role.

[applegrove]

55. Baby-faced Karl - that is what I call him

That 'man' needs to get with some wrinkles!

[applegrove]

63. But wrinkles would require human emotion when nobody is looking

But wrinkles would require human emotion when nobody is looking & when one is asleep.

So if you are a white - fair skinned male - aged 56 or so - and you only make emotional faces when someone is there to witness you - you may not get wrinkles very fast.

[yorkiemommie1]

56. ' open and fair process'

sounds a lot like 'fair and balanced' yup, uh-huh, it sure does.

-sarcasm off-

oh how i hate these ********

[applegrove]

57. You be the judge - did Rove say this to Suskind?

There should be a law banning the morally insane from being within 1000 meters of any self-respecting democracy. Let us list the famous psychopaths: Pol Pot, Milosvech, Hussein, Idi Amin, Hitler, Stalin. George W. Bush is certainly an embarrassment for having let himself be used for so long. His father at least fired Rove after the Willie Horton thing.What a fine band of brothers. Oh and the idiot is having little problem with "grandiosity” these days. Even Peggy Noonan commented on it.

You know when you say you are going to do something and that others will take notice in awe and feel some strong emotion at your actions - that is grandiosity and a good example of how the freaks think: 1)the psychopath has no emotion but accomplishes something (some grand task) 2) many humans see it, are impressed and feel great emotion 3) that the psychopath can then witness (or imagine) that he is human because 1) & 2) took place so it is like a normal human accomplished something and emotion was involved .

"Two years ago, an unnamed Bush aide told Suskind, "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

You be the judge!!

[ClayZ]

58. I visualize them doin' the Perp Walk*

Doin' the Perp Walk http://www.jimhinde.com
Jim Hinde / Folkbone Productions

*
World leaders are trying to beseech Bush.

All of my friends are trying to defeat Bush.

I’ve even seen some signs that tell me to impeach Bush.

That ain’t gonna cut it for me.

I won’t be happy ‘til I see him do the perp walk.

Handcuffs and leg irons swingin’ to the perp walk.

Bright orange jumpsuit, stylin’ for the perp walk,

On his merry way to cell block D.

He raided my National Treasury.

Invaded a nation’s sovereignty.

That’s why I won’t be happy ‘til I see him do the perp walk

Exiting the White House, shuffling to the perp walk.

Live on TV, smirkin’ to the perp walk.

That’s democracy for me.

Lest we neglect the Bush Administration,

That gang hell bent for world domination.

Live at The Hague for their humiliation.

That is what I’d truly like to see.

‘Cause I won’t be happy ‘til I see ‘em do the perp walk.

Rove and Rummy marching to the perp walk.

Colin and Johnny dancing to the perp walk,

Getting finger printed on TV.

They acted preeminently,

Searching for those WMDs.

And now I won’t be happy ‘til I see ‘em do the perp walk.

Condoleezza Rice practicing the perp walk.

Bunker bust Cheney and make him do the perp walk.

That’s democracy for me.

But we won’t stop there, with this administration.

Set a precedent for future generations

To not be messin’ with the Peoples reputation.

And that’s the way it oughta be.

If you mess with us you get to do the perp walk.

Don’t matter if you’re rich you get to do the perp walk.

Especially Richard Nixon should have had to do the perp walk.

It’s what we call equality.

That’s the hallmark of grass roots liberty,

And U.S. Constitutionality.

So you Supreme Court Judges ain’t immune to do the perp walk.

Senators and Congressmen take turns to do the perp walk.

This whole damn government may learn to do the perp walk.

That’s democracy for me.





:kick:

[orleans]

59. We can throw up now

n/t

[Jamastiene]

61. Do what?

Are they kidding? The only way he could have a bigger role is if they have a coronation ceremony and crown that evil puppeteer, and that is exactly what he is.

[cvoogt]

64. Rove Is Promoted To Deputy Staff Chief

From the Washington Post:

" During President Bush's first term, outsiders often suspected that Karl Rove was really behind virtually everything. Now it's official.

Rove, the political mastermind behind two presidential elections, yesterday was named White House deputy chief of staff in charge of coordinating domestic policy, economic policy, national security and homeland security.

<--- snip --->

The move arose out of discontent by Bush and White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. with what they considered a vacuum in the policy staff after the 2003 departure of Joshua B. Bolten to the Office of Management and Budget, a White House adviser said. "Since Josh Bolten went to OMB, the policy process has been a little bit loose and hasn't had the kind of discipline it used to," the adviser said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to protect relations with the White House. "Karl can do that." "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9308-2005Feb8.html

[rodeodance]

65. wonder if a raise comes with this promotion--probably does.

[tcfrogs]

66. What was Rove's official title before the promotion?

didn't check the link, sorry...

[LiberalVoice]

67. Senior Advisor to Bush if i'm not mistaken. nt

[cvoogt]

68. correct ...

and he maintains those responsibilities while taking on the new ones. I suppose this is the White House's way of being frugal ... paying one man to do the job of two. They're doing what they can to reduce the deficit, see. </sarcasm>

[tcfrogs]

73. Thanks

Honestly, I never knew his exact job title.

[anarchy1999]

69. Anyone here really surprised, and yes, of course, with a "promotion"

comes a raise. The biggest, little Nazi we never knew. Karl Rove.

[Borgnine]

70. Eew.

He's rising in the ranks. Could a Rove presidential run be too far behind?

[MsConduct]

71. That's all we need! Like the little weasel didn't have enough

power without it being 'official'. Yikes!

[applegrove]

72. Rogue Rove

I hear Rove will be replacing laura too.

I cannot wait to see what tomorrow will bring. The neocons must be shitting in their boots - cause to a sociopath - peace in the Middle East would be a bad thing.

Are you kidding? Peace in the Middle East would ruin things. There has to be an enemy.

I'm sweating and if I had anything to loose - I would be shitting my pants.

Saddam Hussein also had the same 'talents'. All he did when he got into power was consolidate his power. To hell with the country.

[muchacho]

74. I have to say...

Rove is the only part of Shrub's staff that deserves a promotion.

I mean if you can get this idiot frat-boy elected twice, you get a new Cadillac in my book.

[liberalpress]

76. Karl Rove is now Josh Lyman...

..Sheesh!

[katinmn]

78. So now the PR guy is officially setting policy. Figures.

He's been doing it for years.

Oh, for the days when presidents hired experts to advise them.