Iraq: spinning off Arab terrorists?

[leftchick]

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0208/p06s01-wome.html?s=t5

As the insurgency continues in Iraq, the risk is that the country becomes a regional training ground for terrorists - as Afghanistan was in the 1990s - creating newly radicalized and experienced jihadis who return home to cause trouble in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and elsewhere.


In fact, there's evidence it's already happened in Kuwait. In the past month, the tiny Gulf state has been rocked by a series of shootouts with Muslim militants, some of whom learned their craft by working alongside Iraqi insurgents.

"We found during the interrogations that about four of the suspects had learned how to make explosives in Iraq," says Col. Khaled al-Isaimi, who heads the Kuwaiti delegation at a four-day global counterterrorism conference which ends Tuesday in Riyadh. Some 40 terror suspects have been handed over to Kuwaiti prosecutors in the past month.

Saudi security expert Nawaf Obaid agrees that Arab fighters returning to Saudi Arabia from Iraq is an issue. "This is a major concern in the sense that some people have gone to Iraq and have been getting training but there's no indication that they've come back . We know fighters have gone but we don't know how many exactly," says Mr. Obaid, a Saudi security consultant.

[Monkie]

1. tribal justice,will revenge killings be classed as terrorism?

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?ID=7683
"When a crime is committed, tribal leaders are supposed to mediate between the families of the victim and the perpetrator. Most of the time, the offending family is told to pay compensation - usually money. "Tribal arbitration is based on the principal of diyya set out in the Koran," says Sheikh Jaze al-Rekabi, a tribal leader in Nassiriya"

"Under more normal circumstances, the tribe would offer its members protection and support - especially when the central state was weak, hostile, or simply unconcerned. In return, the tribe, led by its sheikh, required loyalty. A basic premise of tribal affiliation is that members are obliged to assist, defend and even seek retribution for fellow members accused of wrongdoing - regardless of whether they are guilty. Blood ties take precedence over other obligations, and it is not unheard of for family members to kill someone they accuse of a misdeed against one of their own"

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/28/1090694031518.html
"A Jordanian company agreed to pull out of Iraq only after the tribe of its two kidnapped employees threatened managers with the same fate confronting the captives - beheading.
The nightmare of captivity for the two truck drivers, Fayez Saad al-Adwan and Mohammad Ahmed Salama al-Manaya'a, seemed to be resolved just 24 hours after the angry tribal protest outside the city office of Dao'ud and Partners, a catering and construction firm.
Living up to the name of their Adwan tribe - which translates as "the aggressors" - Adwan's brother, Omar, set out the demand for how the company should deal with the hostage-takers.
"We warned that if they did not comply today, the company and the lives of its employees would not be spared," he said"

"The families' dramatic resort to the tenets of tribal justice and revenge was explained by a veteran Jordanian analyst who declined to be named. "What the father was saying to the boss was, 'My son's blood means nothing for you, therefore I mean nothing to you, so I'll cut off your head'.""

http://www.ccmep.org/2003_articles/Iraq/112403_iraqi_families_want_retribution.htm

Iraqi families want retribution for deaths
Some charge U.S. soldiers unjustly shoot, kill civilians

"Sometimes I think some of the attacks against American soldiers are not resistance against the occupation," says Shata Ali al-Qurashi, 34, a Baghdad attorney who represents several claimants against U.S. forces, some for wrongful death. "I think they are revenge by people who have claims against the military."

The al-Kubaisi's tribal sheikh in Baghdad says he is now considering other forms of redress, which could include killing American soldiers. That decision would be made by a meeting of sheikhs, who regularly rule on inter- tribal disputes.

"If they don't pay our settlement, we'll kill four of them," said Sheikh Abdul Salam Mohammed al-Kubaisi, sitting in his tribal office in central Baghdad near the Tigris River. "The Americans are like a tribe for us."
Similarly, the tribal sheikh representing the al-Jumaidy family in Fallujah says tribal justice seems simpler than applying for U.S. military compensation.

An eye for an eye

"Our tribal rule is if one of them kills one of ours, we kill one of theirs," said Sheikh Abdullah Farhan al-Jumaidy. "The problem is that the Americans are very powerful. And we don't know exactly which soldier killed the five people."

if you think of that and the scale of death in iraq its not to much a leap of the imagination to picture 100's or even 1000's of bereaved iraq's with no change at justice traveling to the usa or elsewhere for their pound of flesh after the occupation ends.
will they be portrayed as terrorists?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

4. will they be portrayed as terrorists?

a bomber, a tank, a humvee, a bradley, a missile, or spaced based weapons. If they do that they receive a get out of jail free card.

[anarchy1999]

2. "Can you spell, BLOWBACK?"

n/t

How can it possibly not be coming?

[Inland]

3. Well, nobody could have predicted this! nt