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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 03:49 PM
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Group: Keep U.S. out of gay debate
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2005/02/08/924311-cp.html

MONTREAL (CP) - Canadians can decide the issue of same-sex marriage for themselves and don't need help from other countries, a coalition of same-sex marriage advocates said Tuesday.

Right-wing Christian Americans have been telephoning MPs to tell them how to vote on the proposed Civil Marriage Act. One Ontario MP has said she has received 30 calls from Americans in the last 10 days.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 03:53 PM
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1. What can we say? Ugly Americans...
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 03:53 PM
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2. Now RW whackjobs think they get to export their bigotry?
Fuck them.

And a big round of applause to Canada for basically saying "Butt the fuck out!"
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:08 PM
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15. Well since George seems to think
That we have to show them the right form of government to live under, as per his inaguration address, why wouldn't we have an obligation to show them the right kind of "moral values" to have? And besides, doesn't George have a mandate on "moral values"
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 09:33 PM
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32. The Emperor Has No Mandate
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:45 AM
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41. Good way to put it.... exporting bigotry... spreading democracy...
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 03:53 PM
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3. so it's true, then ...
I've been hearing rumours that Harper's sudden surge in interest about same-sex marriage up here is fuelled by new astroturf groups, supported (and in some cases funded) by US right-wing religious groups.

I guess Harper doesn't mind being used as a figurehead, for a low-rent version of "regime change". Or he thinks he can use it to his advantage. Watch out, Stephen! Bush's people can't be trusted -- the tiger's going to turn around and bite you.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 03:53 PM
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4. They should tell the callers
Edited on Tue Feb-08-05 03:55 PM by rocknation
"Unlike your government, we MEAN it when we say the church does not rule the state. If you want to live where religious doctrine supersedes governmental law, why don't you move to Iran?"

What else should the MPs say? Come on, let's be imaginative!

:headbang:
rocknation

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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 03:56 PM
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7. They should say, "Go Cheney yourself."
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:08 PM
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13. They should say: "With all due respect.....
...if we want the input of our backwards and bigotted neighbors to the south, we will ask for it."
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 03:55 PM
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5. I am sure that Canadian MPs are going to be intimidated by calls from...
Jesusland.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 03:55 PM
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6. Let them keep calling....
they will achieve the opposite of their goal. It will, if anything, turn those wavering toward supporting the bill rather than voting against it.
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fairweather9 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 03:58 PM
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8. Thanks Canada
Just wanted to thank everyone in Toronto who helped to make our wedding day the most wonderful of our lives. Feb. 4th 2005 at 1pm in city hall my partner and I finally got married after 14 years.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:03 PM
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9. Congratulations!
I am proud of my country and our court system that upholds our Charter of Rights for all. The bill will pass, even those in the faux Conservative party are conflicted and some will vote for the bill.
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 05:00 PM
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24. You should be proud of your country. I'm humbled by your
country's common sense and civility.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 05:19 PM
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26. Thank you!
It is my hope the USA will turn back to it's Constitution and The Bill of Rights very soon.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:03 PM
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10. welcome to DU!
and congrats on the wedding!! :toast: :yourock: :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
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progressiveBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:07 PM
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12. seriously, change that pic
almost threw up there.... :)
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:09 PM
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16. I think it's pretty friggin funny!
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progressiveBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:35 PM
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21. just kiddin...
Well, not about how gross it is. Just about changing it.
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fairweather9 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:43 PM
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23. Thankyou
but man, that picture, just made me SO MUCH gayer

;)
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:32 AM
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39. Yeah, I know Crashcart makes you HOT!
Seriously, I'm not gay, but that picture even gets ME in the mood!! :evilgrin:
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progressiveBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:08 PM
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14. Yeah, congrats!
And welcome to DU!
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:30 PM
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20. Congratulations....
...I hope you and your partner have many wonderful and happy years together. Do we get a wedding photo?
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Stevious Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:38 PM
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22. Congratulations!
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dddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:31 PM
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30. Yay for you!
Congratulations!
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Siyahamba Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:04 PM
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11. The Guardian newspaper and Clark County, Ohio
Funny how right-wingers were indignant at the thought of foreigners calling voters in Clark County, Ohio during the election campaign and telling them how to vote.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:16 PM
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18. Exactly Siya
they would FREAK the hell OUT if people from another country DARED to call their repuke legislators and tell them how to vote on something. We'd never hear the end of the hate for that country.

But they think it's ok for them to do.

BIGGEST. FUCKING. HYPOCRITES. WHO EVER EXISTED!!!!
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 05:04 PM
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25. Had the same thought
When I first read the original post, my first thought was.."these assholes would lose it if other countries citizens called our legislators." They have no shame! They are truly hypocrites of the worse kind! They need to be neutered and quickly!
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 09:34 PM
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33. The Parallel Is Frightening!
Superb point!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:14 PM
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17. Good for them.
Tell them to stay the fuck out of it, it's their country, none of the right wing bigots' (I just repeated myself) business anyway.

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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:29 PM
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19. Canada-the new land for hope and sanity
I have just one thing to say, "Oh Canada!"
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 05:32 PM
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27. Hypocritical Rightwingers!
Shame on those @$$clowns! Aren't they the same bumpkins who whine about how foreign powers are supposedly influencing American politics? Why do rightwing freeptards always end up doing the very same things they condemn?
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:00 PM
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28. Nature of the beast?????
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:25 PM
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29. may the wingnuts choke on their words.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:00 PM
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31. Would anybody blame Canada if they declared pre-emptive
war on us?

I wouldn't.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 09:35 PM
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34. Neither Would I But...
KKKarl wouldn't hesitate to go nuclear, even if he's not fully Amerikkkan.
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 09:40 PM
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35. Canadians are too polite to return the favor. Otherwise . . .
please, please, could you flood congressional offices with phone calls favoring single-payer national health insurance and opposing Social Security reform--on Christian moral grounds of course.

Butt into US politics. Butt in!
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artr2 Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 09:49 PM
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36. Protocol be dammed
Tell those assholes to STFU
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 10:27 PM
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37. I spent two weeks in Canada this past summer
visiting my Mom in the Maritimes (Prince Edward Island, to be precise), where things are pretty liberal for the most part. I found that almost all the people I spoke with (usually initiated by me in the form of an apology for my government's overall Dickheadedness toward Canada and the world) were totally disgusted, pissed off and felt insulted by The Chimperor. Most people feel like Bush thinks we're far superior to Canada and doesn't mind displaying that message.
But there seemed to be a lot of warm feelings for Americans - like we got saddled with a terrible fuck-up against our will in 2000.

We're going back this summer and I wonder if the feelings will be as tender toward Americans since the US seems to have chosen him against all reason in this past election, and also because the US has AGAIN been butting in on Canadian business as though we have the right to tell them how to run their country. How dare these goons call Canadian MPs to tell them what to do!!!

At least all our friends and family up there know that we loathe this administration, but I still feel weird driving around with US license plates. I feel like putting a disclaimer on the side of my van just to set the record straight....

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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 10:32 PM
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38. Yeah! Keep those minority haters down in the US. I wonder if
the religous nutcases will try to make gays sit in the back of the bus too. It worked once for them.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:41 AM
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40. Time for the New Anschluss
Prepare yourselves Canada.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 10:18 AM
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42. I think it's time for the Canadians...
to call our legislators about the piss-poor health care system in THIS country, and every other social issue that makes us no better than some Third World nations.


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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:01 PM
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43. The U.S. is the nosiest & most paranoid nation in the world
and we wonder why the world hates us!
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