Schwarzenegger blasts McClintock: Conspiracy Theory to elect a democrat!

[No Passaran]

Only moments after saying he "didn't like negative," Arnold Schwarzenegger launched into an attack Thursday on fellow Republican Tom McClintock by saying the state senator was being used by Indian casino owners to elect a Democratic governor.

Schwarzenegger questioned McClintock's allegiance to the GOP "because he is getting money from the same Indian tribes" as Democratic Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante. McClintock called the statement ridiculous and said he had been a supporter of Indian sovereignty long before some of the tribes opened casinos.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/09/19/ARNOLD.TMP

[Jennellist]

1. Arnold's a circus clown

Didn't we learn anything with Ventura?

[No Passaran]

2. starting to get interesting

"I think that as far as Tom McClintock is concerned, I think the question I have for him is, what side is he on?" Schwarzenegger said. "Is he on the side of the Republicans? Does he represent the Republicans, or does he represent Bustamante?" --Arnold

He knows damn well that in an unscripted debate McClintock and Bustamante would tear his ass up.

[Guaranteed]

6. Arnold's just jealous because...

...McClintock is a legitimate candidate. McClintock should tell him that if he ever sees him face to face. You don't question someone's loyalty and not expect it to get nasty.

[JI7]

4. it is embarrasing

can't believe the moron is actually second place in the polls.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

45. Arnold Kennedy, Hollywood actor, makes sure CA gets a Democratic governor

His wife probably got him to do it :)

[Name removed]

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[Democat]

5. Gangbang Arnold smeaing McClintock?

It doesn't seem like a smart move.

[R Hickey]

7. This muscle-head ain't too smart, but he can lift heavy things.

The Gropenator represents the Bush/Enron Republicans. McClintock is the only California candidate running who represents traditional Republican values.

Another thing - The big difference between Ventura and Arnold, is that Ventura had integrity, where as Arnold and his Bush/Enron backers, represent only graft. Arnold is trying to follow Ventura the way the Monkeys tried to follow the Beatles. Arnold is a counterfit reformer. Arnold is a phoney.

Arnold's campaign is spending ten dollars for each campaign dollar of McClintock's, yet there seems to be a diminishing return. Dumbo still can't budge his poll numbers.

It seems there are a limited number of voter-aged iron-pumping bimbos in California, and the grope-group will never produce the ground-swell this muscle-man wished for.

"A pump is as good as a cum" Dumbo told Ophra, or is it "A pump is as good as a dump..." or perhaps in this case, "A pump is as good as a fart in a huricane."

At the end of this contrived Bush/Enron/Republican California power grab, the line I'm waiting to hear Conhead the Barbarian say is "I'll be back."

And another thing, I think this Nazi spawn, who still retains his Austrian citizenship, and never learned to speak English, should go back to his homeland and run for office there.

[Brucey]

9. I can't stand Arnie, the Termite-Eater, never could, but

don't insult people from Europe or people who speak with an accent. Lots of them are damn good people. Arnie has bad ideas and a poor intellect.

[R Hickey]

12. Sorry, I didn't mean to insult anybody but Arnold...

in fact some of my best friends are European, and some of them even speak with accents. In fact, in many places of the world, I speak with an accent.

I didn't mean to insult weight-lifters either. But if I were insulting them, I'd rather do it here in this forum, than at some gym or perhaps a hockey game.

[DavidDvorkin]

16. Don't insult weight lifters here, either.

The idea that those who have muscles are therefore stupid is as obnoxious as any other social stereotype.

[Meph]

32. yeah

But blondes sure are dumb ;-)

[_NorCal_D_]

26. Good post R Hickey!

B-):thumbsup:

[fertilizeonarbusto]

36. HEY

I lift 5-6 times a week, I speak three languages and I'm working on two advanced degrees. And I'm not the only smart, liberal gym rat I know.

[JNelson6563]

8. that's funny

I am no McClintock fan but I cauaght him on TV recently. He seemed pretty genuine to me. He voiced his conservative views, wasn't shrill (like a typical neo-con) was articulate in his views. He didn't depend on cute lines or sound bytes, I mean it was like he was a serious candidate for office or something.

Unlike Ahnold who seems to think he's making another film.

That said, if I were in Cali I'd vote no on recall and yes on Bustemante (sp?).

Julie

[NewYorkerfromMass]

10. McClintock is a genuine PRO-LIFE/ANTI-CHOICE candidate

and he is a GOP stooge. Need I say more?

[JNelson6563]

21. yep, he's the real deal alright

no doubt about it. Unlike Ahnold, everything about him is pretend, like the movies. I don't understand why a conservative would vote for him. I don't know why any Dem would either.......

Pretty sad to think so many are actually considering voting him into Governorship of the 5th largest economy in the world.

Julie

[phillybri]

11. He just won the race for Bustamante....

Think about it, now McClintock will NEVER drop out of the race!!!

[RevolutionStartsNow]

13. Exactly!

Maybe Arnie is the one who is part of a conspiracy to let the Dems win... :)

It's going to get uglier with McClintock...

[dfong63]

37. i think you're on to something

Maybe Arnie is the one who is part of a conspiracy to let the Dems win... :)


a few times it's seemed like he was almost TRYING to sabotage his own candidacy. i really don't think he wants to be governor. i think he's doing this all for publicity. for real.

[4_Legs_Good]

40. My hardcore republican friends

keep saying "I wish Arnold would drop out of the race". They're *not* asking for McClintock to drop out.

It's kinda fun to see the Republicans trying to pull the ol' Nader Hater argument though. Mwah hah hah

david

Kucinich 2004

Arianna YES
Recall No

[PATRICK]

14. Barring a Rove style backstab

The REAL Republican candidate can only gain by finishing off Arnold now and then running legitmately in the real election. If Arnold wins and messes up that would still ruin McClintock's chances of winning the next REAL election. Plus the people who have screwed up the conquest of California and reversed Reaganism by the Enron mess are not exactly popular among the con rank and file. Especially with the elephant sized plate of hypocrisy that Arnold's image and beliefs they are being told to swallow like good little boys.

In fact, Arnold can't stop McClintock's successful and debate credible polling among the faithful. Bribery or blackmail come next I suppose.
Failure to dislodge the only credible Republican candidate with these methods would suggest to me he might be one of the rare few with some modicum of integrity in that crowd.

France was ashamed when they were suddenly left with the choice of a fascist or a failed conservative. They rallied. From our more systemic comedy to the blinded indifferent streets how does Ammerica vis a vis California compare?

[Democat]

17. If Arnold wins, the right wingers lose bigger than if Gray wins

If Arnold wins, the far right loses all credibility in California. How can they ever talk about "morals" or "hollywood" or "porn" again if their chosen god is a pro-porn hollywood gangbanger? Arnold would signal a new direction for the image of California republicans, and it's not an image compatible with the far right.

The far will have to fight Arnold all the way, if they want to survive as a force in California politics.

[David__77]

23. I agree with you.

If Arnie becomes the face of CA GOP, they're doomed. They cannot posit themselves as a cultural opposition. We'd all be "pro-gay" and "pro-choice" and decidedly non-conservative. These fools somehow think that he'd be a nice tool for them and keep his "unsavory" views to himself. They are clearly mistaken. He's already mouthed off about "right-wing wackos." He's an utter opportunist.

[4_Legs_Good]

41. The thing I fear most is Arnie cheerleading for Jr. in 2004

If he wins, he will be a powerful pawn in the George Jr. Regime re-appointment campaign in 2004.

david

Kucinich 2004

Arianna YES
Recall No

[David__77]

44. If you fear this, then please support Bustamante.

Bustamante is the second man standing in Arnie's way. Arianna cannot stop Arnie I don't dislike Arianna, but I do like Cruz, he's got progressive positions on health care, regulating utilities and other issues. Please reconsider...

[UserNamesAreFree]

15. Does anyone know Ahnold's stand

on violence in movies? Family values, and all that.

[mitchtv]

28. he mentioned Violence in movies on Larry King

No apologies "movies are Make beleive" says Arnold

[Meph]

33. like most republicans...

Arnold probably supports the idea of family values... actually practicing them is a whole different story.

[UserNamesAreFree]

35. Meph

you're dead on..

[slackmaster]

18. McClintock came off very well on C-SPAN last night

I certainly don't plan to vote for him but his presentation was very solid. He's focused, calm, and made very pointed remarks about the state of the state of California without lowering himself to ad hominem or hyperbole.

McClintock may be Cruz Bustamante's best hope for diverting enough votes away from Schwarzenegger, and he's stubborn enough to stay in the race to the end. He's a very serious intellectual candidate with lots of relevant experience and makes Arnold look like the clown that he truly is.

[UserNamesAreFree]

20. "McClintock"

All BS aside, you think the guy's name holds him back, particularly among repukes?

[slackmaster]

22. There are two species of California Republicans

Moderates, a good example of whom would be Richard Riordan (former mayor of Los Angeles), and far-right conservatives of which Tom McClintock is one of the most credible. This division plus the occasional rise of clowns like Bill Simon or Arnold Schwarzenegger has been holding their party back for about 20 years now.

I'm not sure what you mean by your question about his name. It sounds like another ordinary Scots-Irish surname to me.

[UserNamesAreFree]

24. I meant the similarity to 'Clinton'

And part of it sounding like a part of the male anatomy. Subliminal stuff.

[slackmaster]

25. As the guy said to the psychiatrist regarding the Rohrshach prints

Hey, YOU'RE the one holding up all the dirty pictures.

:toast:

[Sideways]

29. Good Gawd Subliminal My Ass You Are Too Obvious

Clintons Cock has nothing to do with this debate. And you need to go watch your new Barney video. Sheesh!

Sometimes trying too hard to be cute and witty just proves you're NOT.

[UserNamesAreFree]

34. Hold it folks!

I'm one of the good guys! But knowing repukes have Clinton on the brain, I wonder if the name turns them off. (Not that I dispute having a dirty mind...)

[PROGRESSIVE1]

42. When you see his seriousness and great intellect....

I say that it is too bad that he isn't a Democrat!

[Squeech]

19. Dems don't need conspiracies to win

Repukes do.

[rocktivity]

27. Bustamante and McClintock are the legit candidates and Arnold knows it

Originally posted by R. Hickey:
The Gropenator represents the Bush/Enron Republicans. McClintock is the only California candidate running who represents traditional Republican values.

And Arnold has the nerve to ask whose side McClintock is on? Is he aware that having pro-gray and pro-choice views make him LESS of a Republican than McClintock? Nice work, Arnold--you've just handed McClintock the perfect weapon to bludgeon you with.


rocknation

[DoveTurnedHawk]

30. Has the Whore Media Picked This Up?

Because this conspiracy-thinking paranoia is EXACTLY what we need to get out there about this joke of a candidate.

DTH

[Meph]

31. Wow

It's only been a few weeks and already Arnold is so inept at making a valid argument he has to fall back on conspiracy theories? Dang! No wonder he didn't go to the debate!

I mean, it's pretty pathetic, usually the right wingers leap to conspiracy theories, urban legends, and apocryphal accounts later on. I guess Arnold really doesn't have any actuall clue about polotics or the issues.

However, I would be interested in knowing if and how the aliens are involved with this Bustamante/McClintock conspirasy.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

38. Schwartzenegger is swiney P.O.S!!!!!!!

Arnold is nothing more than a WHORE of the white house!!!!
He promised not to go negative and now he has!!!

Arnie is taking special interest money just as everyone else which means that he is FULL OF SHIT!!!

God help us if this bafoon wins which he WILL NOT!!!

:kick:

[David Zephyr]

39. Arnold's Inside Polling Must Reveal McClintock Still Climbing

Arnold's campaign would not have instructed him to attack McClintock unless McClintock has further climbed from 18% into the 20%+ range making him statistically tied with Arnold.

If this is true, Arnold is finished.

[davidinalameda]

43. is Ahnuld going into melt down mode

has he realized that he's not going to win

nothing better than Repuke infighting

they should put it on pay-per-view