Kline introduces bill to put Reagan on $50 bill

[Dickie Flatt]

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/politics/10868564.htm?1c

Rep. John Kline wants former President Ronald Reagan to adorn $50 bills, where we would replace Ulysses S. Grant, a Civil War general who went on to become president.

Kline, who served as a military aide to Reagan, said the former president "was guided by unwavering principles and a steadfast character."

[Kikosexy2]

1. I'd..

rather put him on a slug.

[happyslug]

14. HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT!!!

US Grant believed in Civil Rights and a Balanced Budget. US Grant not only had the Civil Rights Act of 1871 Passed (The Anti-KKK Act) but also the Civil Rights Act of 1875 which had it NOT been struck-ed down by the Supreme Court in the 1880s would have done almost everything (Except for discrimination against women) that was done when the 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed.

A brief description of the Civil Rights Acts:
http://cwx.prenhall.com/bookbind/pubbooks/dye4/medialib/docs/civrit.htm

The Actual Civil Rights Acts of 1866, 1871, 1870, 1871 and 1875:
http://aalto.arch.ksu.edu/jwkplan/law/Civil%20Rights%20Acts%20of%201866%2C%201870%2C%201871%2C%201875.htm

[tanyev]

24. I think Kikosexy2 meant Reagan.

[happyslug]

25. I Know but it was just to tempting.....

n/t

[niceypoo]

72. Put him on "National toilet paper" instead

Official US TP. Only problem is I would be tempted to go and wipe my ass even when I hadn't taken a crap.

[0007]

75. Putting Reagan on the 37 cent postage stamp was way too generous

IMO the two cent stamp was where Reagan belonged.

[GetTheRightVote]

2. Our history down the tubes for dummies like Reagan who does not

even come close to the strength and important to this country as our fore fathers. What is wrong with these repubs, really what ?

:kick:

[TwentyFive]

57. Reagan was a dummy

But, that goes to show how easily people are fooled.

[Worst Username Ever]

3. They should put him on an IOU.

Why not, it's his legacy.

[Bluebear]

4. Snap!

[expatriot]

6. Yes, a T-note. n/t

[genieroze]

44. Good answer! lol eom

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

5. Where do these people get this idea

that Mr. Reagan walked on freakin' water?

[genieroze]

46. Why, these same nuts think * is God. I had ten times the respect

for Reagan then I have for * and I didn't like Reagan but I despise *.

[amazona]

7. whatever

Doesn't matter to me if it's a drunk or a senile dementia patient on the $50 bill, neither one gets my respect. Since Reagan's administration was so often compared to Grant's -- as in, "The Reagan administration is the most corrupt since U.S. Grant" then it seems appropriate to me. Better this than the dime.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[trogdor]

73. Wanna put a revered Republican on the $50?

How about Eisenhower? At least he was a genuine war hero, and he loved his country more than he loved his politics.

[MrSlayer]

8. Ack! Not the 50!

My favorite bill.

[bluestateguy]

9. Well

They had to find one of the few presidents worse than Reagan to replace on US currency.

Democrats may want to counter with a bill to name an aircraft carrier the USS Bill Clinton.

[stevedeshazer]

50. Grant worse than Reagan?

Really?

[S_B_Jackson]

62. Sadly...

can't name a carrier after the Big Dog...the Rethuglicans named the last two Nimitz-class carriers after the senile old coot and Junior's poppy.

Just makes me want to :puke:

[whistle]

10. No way, Reagan was guided by McCarthyism and racism

[LiberalFighter]

35. Reagan was a stool-pigeon

[benburch]

11. Illinois would be against this...

As should anybody who lives in the Union states.

[SoCalDem]

12. Jesus KEE- RIST !!!!... enough already with Raygun

Why stop there.. Why not just rename the country.. Reaganistan and be DONE with it :)

[Cha]

13. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I'll never look at another $50.00 bill.

[latteromden]

15. What IS it with Minnesotan Republicans wanting to put Reagan on EVERYTHING

recently? First, it was a highway. Then, it was the State Office Building. Now, they want to force this insanity on the rest of the country and put him on the 50? Good lord!

[LiberalFighter]

36. Souder of Indiana was first wanting the dip on the dime

[genieroze]

47. Let them, when I get a fifty I'll draw horns on it. eom

[keopeli]

16. My great grandma and many other southerners refused to use the $50

because it had Grant on it. There is still a lingering distaste for the $50 bill in many rural conservative areas of the south.

Grant is actually a distant relative of mine, but most of my Southern relatives won't reveal this information in public!

[Betty]

45. Well I won't use a $50 bill with reagan on it

that's for sure.

[Chicago Democrat]

17. He should be on the 1million dollar USTreasury Bill..

And he should have one finger in the air and a bubble that says "Feed the Beast!"

[ClintonTyree]

18. Put him on the telephone bill...................

that's about all the dead, criminal, bastard deserves.

[MADem]

61. Well, if the economy keeps heading south

...those fifties will be like Iraqi dinars...cheaper to wipe your ass with them than to haul a garbage bag of bills to the store to buy some butt wipe.

[sam sarrha]

19. Here on Planet Reagan..i thought all things were created by and are Reagan

so why bother.. ??

[geniph]

20. I still say what should be named for him

is his true legacy - the deficit. The Reagan Memorial Deficit.

Either that or that Fresh Kills landfill that's visible from space. That'd be appropriate. The Reagan Memorial Giant Landfill.

[Placebo]

21. Why the hell not? And while we're at it...

why don't we just replace the word "President" with the word "Reagan", much like Ancient Rome! They had their Caesars, it's long overdue that we got our Reagans!

So President Bush's new ceremonial name will become Reagan Bush, and President Kerry would have been Reagan Kerry!

Think how wonderful that would be...:nuke:

[Robb]

22. ...I said it before when the Reagan Dime came up...

...put him on the quarter, two-bit president that he was. ;)

[flaminbats]

39. Why not have * on the haypenny and Reagan on the $2 bill?

http://www.theadamsagency.com/$2bill.php

Grant may not of been one of our best President's, but at least he didn't leave us a legacy..

[realFedUp]

23. how appropriate for the decline of America....

after all his tax cuts started our
swift decline despite what Clinton
did or didn't do.b

[tanyev]

26. Since I don't recall ever seeing an actual

$50 bill, this would at least be preferable to putting him on some currency that gets used frequently. I fear St. Ronnie's appearance on some sort of legal tender is inevitable. Plus, bills are much easier to deface than coins!

(Defacing money is illegal, and I recommend that you never, ever do such a thing.)

[genieroze]

49. Defacing money is illegal? No it isn't

http://www.lawforkids.org/speakup/view_question.cfm?id=407

[Richard Steele]

52. Quite correct, genieroze!

SPENDING defaced money is illegal.

Defacing it, in and of itself, is perfectly legal.
And, if done properly, it's a friggin' ART FORM.

[genieroze]

55. SPENDING defaced money is illegal, not unless you try and alter

it's value.
http://www.lawforkids.org/speakup/view_question.cfm?id=407

Answer: There is no law or statute against simply writing on a cash bill. For instance, it is not against the law to draw giant red lips on George Washington's portrait on the front of a One Dollar Bill.

However defacing currency with the intent to alter the bill to gain a benefit is illegal. If someone alters a written instrument (such as a check) without permission and with the intent to gain a benefit, then it is called forgery, which is a crime. If one tried to alter a cash bill (like changing a $5 bill to a $20 bill) for the purpose of presenting the altered bill to gain a benefit, then that could be considered a forgery. Forgery of United States Currency in this manner is called counterfeiting and carries with it very stiff penalties.

[NYC]

56. Thank you, genieroze.

That is very useful information. :)

[Dover]

27. Considering that the Republicans have made our currency worthless

I say plaster their faces all over the worthless bills!!!

[Ernesto]

28. Well at least it'll be fun

blacking out his teeth, crossing his eyes and graphically dis-respecting St. ronnie on a bill that I know will be seen by many of his mush brained disciples.

[dflprincess]

29. Kline is such a tool

I'll never underdstand how that ass got reelected.

If Teresa Daly (his opponent in 2004 for those of you not in Minnesota) had been smart the only ad she would have had to run was one using Kline's quote about how the issues he worked on were "too complex for the average housewife in Burnsville to understand." I know several women (Republicans included) who nearly exploded when they heard that.

[wellst0nev0ter]

31. Pshah, Daly Was Too Much of A Repub Clone

She couldn't distinguish herself from Kline AT ALL. I think the only point where they differed is that she wants a balanced budget. Otherwise, keeping rich people from being OPRESSED by the "death tax" is A-OK with her.

[Kolesar]

30. Put Reagan on the "minus 3 trillion dollar" bill

That was the debt he ran up. It was 1 trillion when he took office.

[LinuxInsurgent]

80. good one...

so...is Bush the minus 7 trillion...and counting?

[MadisonProgressive]

32. Would it still be worth $50?

[cureautismnow]

33. Put Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein on There, Too

They were all such good bedfellows. Oh, and don't forget the Islamic Jihad. They appreciated Ollie's arms. Perhaps, we could bribe all the present-day terrorists in the world with these blood-stained $50s.

:puke:

[don954]

34. we should let them do it, its a good political cookie

but with the understanding that we will be expecting them to scratch our backs soon for our issues..

[PurityOfEssence]

53. You don't understand: they never pay back

As Junior's brother-in-law likes to say: "I just want my fair share, which is all of it."

There is no reciprocity from this mob, and that's something that even a sharp guy like Clinton will never understand. They will not play fair. They will demand their way, force their way, TAKE their way, and complain about how they're being ill-treated. He tried to play nice with them, and still does, hoping that they'll call off the dogs someday, but they never will.

You need look no further than the judicial appointments; they sat on so many during Clinton's time that a crisis brewed, and when they rammed through virtually all of Junior's nazis, even that wasn't enough for them.

Liberalism is based upon the understanding that different beliefs deserve to coexist; conservatism defines anything different as unholy and deserving of nothing short of destruction. They'll give you nothing for your kindness except renewed efforts to take even more from you.

This is no joke.

[TwentyFive]

59. You're right - they are like cockroaches. They only think of taking. n/t

[MNDEM2004]

37. It was just redesigned

Why waste more money on Reagan.

[TroubleMan]

38. Hold on.....$50 is way to much money for me to wipe my ass with.

put him on GI toilet paper or something.

[Flammable Materials]

40. Nancy, please tell them to STFU ... AGAIN. n/t

[flaminbats]

41. Democrats should offer a counterproposal..

put Eisenhower on the $50 bill, see how many Republicans vote against it!

[necso]

42. Reagan should be on the

trillion dollar bill (cash value 1/100 cent).

Let's print up a bunch of them, pay off our creditors (except SS) with them ("Keep the change.") and pass out the rest as souvenirs.

Fiscal irresponsibility of Reaganite proportions should not be rewarded. And one can argue that without Reagan's peacetime fiscal irresponsibility, our current fiscal irresponsibility would have, at least, proven much more difficult, if not impossible.

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

67. Put Reagan on the FOOD STAMP-- that would look real fine

Or on the Tax refund checks for the wealthy.

Keep him away from our money.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

43. Too expensive -- most people can't afford

to wipe their asses with $50 bills. And it would be SO tempting.

[jdj]

48. I thought it was going to say the $50 billion dollar bill

that would be more appropriate.

I say if they put him on the dollar, lets get a condom manufacturer to put his face on a condom brand, call it "Ray-gun", the tag line can be "bang one for the Gipper" or something.

(In acknowlegement of how AIDS turned into an epidemic on his watch, when it didn't have to.)

[PurityOfEssence]

51. Grant wasn't a great president, but he was a BRILLIANT general

Bitter Southerners will never accept this, but he was a much better commander than Lee: he understood maneuver, communications and logistics in a way that a talented tactical field commander like Lee never could. Add to this that Grant was a fabulous tactical commander, and there's no comparison. He's been tarred as a attritionist, but that completely discounts most of his campaigns and simply plays into the ongoing myth of the Southern superiority.

Boy do I know this; I have family on both sides and am descended from notables from each army. The South's collective self-image of manhood was trampled because they thought they were superior, and they have yet to get over it.

Reagan was a serviceable actor, a mob tool as an adminstrator of SAG and a mean thug for privilege as president. He excelled at nothing, whereas Grant (along with Sherman) was a towering figure in the history of warfare, and ushered in the modern era of generalship in ways that are only now being acknowledged.

[DivinBreuvage]

58. Thank you for this wonderful post

Even here on DU there are far too many people who buy into the myth of "Grant the butcher" or who fail to realize that -- contrary to the popular saw that "history is written by the winners" -- the South has been writing America's Civil War history since 1865.

People who parrot the "Grant the butcher" meme should be forced to explain the difference between the Vickbsurg and Gettysburg campaigns.

They should also be asked to identify the Civil War general who suffered higher casualty rates than US Grant (hint: it was Robert E. Lee).

They should also be asked to identify the Civil War general who, when he ran out of ideas, continued to rely on suicidal frontal assaults after Grant and Sherman had figured out such tactics were hopeless (hint: it was Robert E. Lee).

Your idea that the South's collective self-image of manhood was trampled is fascinating to me, one that I had never heard or considered before, but it seems to me, now that I hear it, to get closer to the heart of the matter than any other explanation I have yet heard. Very well done!

[PurityOfEssence]

66. Well, hot damn!

Vicksburg was absolutely masterful: it was maneuver, bluff and control of initiative par excellence. The mere mention of that campaign brings joy to my heart.

There were plenty of good commanders on both sides who've been overblown or unfairly dismissed. One of my blood kin (John Bell Hood) is shockingly overrated, while another (Joseph E. Johnson) was underrated and badly misused due to the idiocy of Jeff Davis. Lee is lauded, while Forrest is arguably the greatest commander of the entire war. (Hell, he's one of the best of all time, period.) Meade is forgotten, although he won Gettysburg, and even though Lincoln was annoyed by him, Grant retained him as a key Corps commander. Nobody ever talks about Thomas, but he was a true stalwart. Sherman is only remembered as a looter, when he was a true genius of modern warfare.

It goes on and on; I can hardly think of a war that has more key players more misrepresented. Mercifully, Davis was an arrogant fool and the South died by its own sword.

Glad we're in accord; there's hope yet.

[zulchzulu]

54. How about a ceremonial rubber check or the Trillion Dollar Bill

Let's put him on the Trillion Dollar bill since he was the first Repug to blow out a huge deficit...

[proudbluestater]

60. Makes sense to me, playing to his "base." Only person I know who

likes to flash 50s is my ex. I like the 20s, the common man's currency.

[kineneb]

63. All I can say is "UUUUck" n/t

[Dr Fate]

64. Most Democrats dont see too many of those anyway.

n/t

[w4rma]

65. Don't bother the bill. Besides, Reagan is a divisve figure. Grant has been

dead long enough that he is no longer divisive.

[truthisfreedom]

68. bah!

heh. no chance.

[Zynx]

69. Grant was a far better servent of his country than Reagan.

However, Republicans don't give two shits about history.

[BiggJawn]

70. Put him on the $1 bill...

Then I can afford to wipe my ass on "Dutch" more often...

What's that you say? I'm being "Disrespectful of the Dead"?

I didn't say anything about Jerry Garcia...

[Ravenseye]

81. It fits...Reagan should be on the dollar bill

in honor of him 'passing the buck'

[jmowreader]

71. Only if they let us design the back!

My vote: Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein.

[keroro gunsou]

74. Why not..

Harry S Truman for the $50?

[indepat]

76. A reminder Reagan's budget deficits will ultimately mean a $50 bill

will be needed to purchase what once a buck would once buy?

[GOPBasher]

77. Reagan should be on the $1000 bill.

I saw a really cool letter to the editor in my paper. A guy said, "Reagan should be on the $1000 bill. That way, the people for whom he and the Republican party worked so hard can see him all the time, and the rest of us don't have to."

[LinuxInsurgent]

78. please NO....

I'd rather prefer Grant, whose administration had been the most corrupt in U.S. history (Until W. Bush), but who at least had his Civil War glory to his name.

It's already bad enough that Reagan's got an airport and carrier with his name on it. He was a horrible President, from the domestic side of things...and he was hated around the world, especially the browner parts of the Third World...

Not something we should be immortalizing in our currency...Kennedy, FDR, the Founders, Abe Lincoln...yeah...that's the America I want to belong to...but not to Reagan.

[LinuxInsurgent]

79. I just thought of somethign...

there's a good way to protest this, if it occurs...simply take every $50.00 dollar bill you have...and mark it with a Hitler Mustache, and write "Seig Heil" under it.

If everyone that opposes it does that, there will be a stream of $50.00 out there making a political statement for us all the time...

Even Republicans will have to proudly hold their Hitler Reagans...hahaha...cause no one will throw away $50.00!