Breast cancer group's connection to Planned Parenthood questioned

[Boudica]

Article from the front page of the local section of the Waco Tribune Herald. Link here

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/02/11/20050211wackomen.html

The money given to the family planning organization is earmarked for mammograms for low-income women and follow-up care for those with abnormal screenings.

Local Komen affiliates emphasize that the money given to Planned Parenthood is only used for breast health purposes. They receive reports twice a year to make sure funds are spent appropriately, they said.

But that doesn't change Williams' stance. She said she won't support any event where proceeds go to an organization that performs abortions.

"We can't support that," Williams, 41, said. "Since I go to Antioch (Community Church), we would have had a big team, too."

Yes that is the same Antioch Community Church that had the missionaries arrested in Afghanistan and the Tsunami relief teams. Pro life Waco is also upset because Komen does not publicize that abortions cause breast cancer.:eyes:

What angers me the most is that Pro Life Waco is not about ending abortions , it is about removing all forms of contraception because that lowers sex to am animal act. Will they be at anti war rallies in March protesting the round up and rape of innocent Iraqi women.? NO. Will they be down in Austin lobbing the state legislature to increase funding to CPS so that 200 more children will not die in 2005 because of abuse? NO.

[JitterbugPerfume]

1. will they EVER give up the lie

that abortion causes breast cancer? Dear GOD--save us from your followers

[Ilsa]

13. I'm waiting for one of them to openly accuse a woman

of having "killed her baby" just becaue she was diagnosed with breast cancer. It will take an outrage like that before this gets an honest public debate and the facts are made clear that there is no way they can prove even an association between the two.

[htuttle]

2. But, but...sex IS an animal act...

(imagine photos of animals having sex here)

Then again, so is breathing, and eating.

I think 'Pro Life Waco' is wacko.

[WoodrowFan]

4. OYE

No imaginary sex thread either Htuttle.

Seriosuly, I am not surprised. They also oppose laws protecting women from abuse.

Check Mahablog for a helpful ID card for "pro-lifers" so they can tell the difference between a woman and a cow.

[WildClarySage]

5. It is if it's done right! *big cheesy grin*

[Bridget Burke]

3. Planned Parenthood provides much medical care.

The Komen group is somewhat conservative, but they realize that funding mammograms through Planned Parenthood is a good way to ensure that they're available to more women. (And, through the years, Planned Parenthood has prevented more abortions than it's performed.)

The study that abortions cause breast cancer has been discredited. What about the fact that 1 to 2 percent of all breast cancers are diagnosed during pregnancy? It's thought the cancer would have developed anyway but hormones speeded things up. Interpreted differently, one could say that pregnancy can cause breast cancer.

[Red State Rebel]

15. Breast Cancer/Abortion argument

is considered proven in Australia. I read an article that said they have to give warnings and I believe there were lawsuits by women who had abortions then later developed breast cancer who had not been warned when research had shown what the Aussie courts consider to be a credible link.

Our family has no close history of breast cancer yet my sister, the only one who has had an abortion (she had 2) was diagnosed 4 years ago with it. Who knows....

[Bridget Burke]

16. So---can you provide a link to the research?

It would really help...

[Red State Rebel]

20. Here are links I found

http://albalagh.net/population/abortion_breast_cancer.shtml
http://www.bcpinstitute.org/printabc_html.htm

[Lars39]

24. Sorry, but both your links ARE NOT reputable info!

OK, look at the author of the first link:"Steve Mosher is the president of Population Research Institute, a non-profit organization dedicated to debunking the myth that the world is overpopulated."

Took me a bit,but here's the reason to run like hell from Breast Cancer Prevention Institute: Joel Brind, President is involved with the American Association of Pro Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists. This is the same group that is encouraging its members to not prescribe bc pills, or to fill the prescriptions.

I got curious and looked the group up. They run hand in hand with the
Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:_uVL_UwLRUAJ:www.aaplog.org/meeting.htm+Joel+Brind,+Ph.D.&hl=en

Here is REPUTABLE information on breast cancer, not some damn fundy pro-life site :

http://susanlovemd.com/community/flashes/hotflash040412_1.htm

[Lars39]

17. Link please.

And I don't mean a right to life one, either.

[WildClarySage]

6. wait a sec... she doesnt' want the Komen fund going to

organizations that provide abortion referral/services because that frees up their other funds to be used for more abortions, et. al.

and this is different from faith-based funding which doesn't directly go to proselytization, exactly how again?

[Gman]

7. Like doing animal-like sex is a bad thing

How do these people reproduce? Why? I have thoughts of the sex scene in "The Color Purple".

[stepnw1f]

8. Sleazy People

Making up garbage to proselytize their point of "Unscientific and Emotional" view is outrageous, extreme and dangerous. These people are truly disconnected from a reality in which most of us are bound to by honesty. They give "Faith" a bad name and are NOT Pro-Life, since they do not understand "Life" itself.

Pro-Life is a disingenous name. They fight for something that isn't alive and yet promote the very "WAR" that kills those that are alive. They are a Cult of Control.

[wolfgirl]

9. Waco = wacko! eom

[sybylla]

14. Unfortunately for the GOOD people of Waco

That's how I and many of my friends have pronounced it since the David Koresh thing.

They are definitely getting a reputation down there.

[Lars39]

10. These people can just kiss my bright shiny @ss.

Love thy neighbor? Not a concept they know or employ. What happens when one of their goddam precious flock gets breast cancer? Is she automatically shunned until she confesses her *sin* of having an abortion?

I don't how or on what grounds, but these frickin' idiots need to be sued to stop spreading this lie. :grr:

[tanyev]

11. This is funny (in a sad way).

Susan Komen was the sister of Nancy Brinker (Brinker restaurants) who started the fund in her memory. Nancy Brinker is a Bush pioneer and was once the U.S. ambassador to Hungary. But I guess she's an evil librul in the eyes of Pro Life Wacko, I mean Waco.

[Bridget Burke]

12. Nancy Brinker is a non-insane conservative.

A dying breed--especially here in Texas. She's got money but wants all women to get help against breast cancer. Since Planned Parenthood provides medical care, they're a good choice to get funding for mammograms.

[Caria]

18. NO link between abortion and breast cancer has been found

but since our own government claimed there was one (http://democrats.reform.house.gov/features/politics_and_science/example_breast_cancer.htm ), the misinformation on the topic is widespread.

For the REAL info, please see http://www.fwhc.org/abortion/abcancer.htm

And yes, anti-abortion activists DO troll on-line breast-cancer support groups. I have never had an abortion, BUT I have received numerous email messages from people I've never heard of who have claimed that my breast cancer was my punishment for killing my babies.

The cruelty of these people is unfathomable. I have never, ever been pregnant though I wanted very much to be. At the very time that I was dealing with infertility and cancer issues, I was getting these horrible "You are getting what you deserve in life and you will burn in hell too" messages. I can only imagine how I would have felt if I'd had an abortion or miscarriage.

(edited to fix typo)

[Lars39]

19. Thank you for the links, Caria.

People that would do that are insane, no other explanation fits.
I'm so sorry you were exposed to that. :hug:
I haven't had any comments about my diagnosis, just withdrawals from some family members.
I think I may just bring up the subject and see where it goes.
(We really need a 'whistling and trying to look innocent' smiley)
A little education face to face may be what's needed to clear the air,
and your links will certainly help. :)

[Caria]

21. I'm sorry about your diagnosis

Hope you are doing ok.

[Red State Rebel]

22. The Swedish study fails to address some important issues

1. While in the US and Europe most abortions are performed on a woman who has never had a child before, in Sweden, where abortions have been legal since 1939, most abortions are performed on women who have already had children.

The study that showed there was a link, showed that the link was mainly regarding women who had had abortions before having a completed pregnancy.


I'll be the first to admit that a lot of the time, study results can be twisted to show the results that the people hired them want, it needs to be considered that this happens on BOTH sides of the argument.

[geniph]

23. Would they prefer sex as a vegetable act?

a mineral act? Plasma?

Um, we ARE animals.

[superconnected]

25. I've never heard the abortion causes breast cancer

argument before. Probably because it's so stupid it doesn't travel far. Unless, it's through the republicans. But through the dems and liberals, never heard of it before...