Rumsfeld: U.S. liberators, not occupiers

[NNN0LHI]

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/02/11/iraq.rumsfeld/

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Donald Rumsfeld has told U.S. troops in Iraq they have shown the world America is a land of liberators not occupiers, and that they can return home once Iraqi security forces are trained and confident.

During a surprise visit to Iraq on Friday, the U.S. defense secretary landed in Mosul before dawn to visit wounded soldiers, meet Iraqi troops and speak to an assembly of soldiers.

He then flew by helicopter to Baghdad where he met Iraq's interim President Ayad Allawi. He was also scheduled to visit U.S. and Iraqi forces.

Before his short speech in Mosul, Rumsfeld spent a few minutes at the bedside of a wounded American soldier who had earned two Purple Heart medals and was scheduled to stay in Iraq another nine months.

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Who's he trying to convince? Himself maybe? :crazy:

[LinuxInsurgent]

1. um...that's delusional

He can legitimately argue about the merits of this war, pro and against...but one thing you can't do is make outlandish, false statements. The world is SOLIDLY against this War...and SOLIDLY has the opinion that the U.S. is occupying them...and that's OUTSIDE the Middle East...inside the Middle East...favorable opinions to the U.S. don't even make it into the double-digits in percentage of population.

So...how is he able to make the claim that the world sees them as liberators? That's false...totally false. Maybe the soldiers see themselves that way...and that's a political stance that we must respect, (though I disagree). But...to state that the world is with the Americans is totally false and out of the bounds of rational debate.

Rumsfeld is delusional...and he's lying.

[ktowntennesseedem]

2. You tell 'em, Rummy!!!

And be sure to remind those other "evil" empires like Iran and N Korea that if they don't behave themselves, we're gonna come "liberate" them, too!

[Rush1184]

3. Sure... All liberated people fear death daily

and are subjected to torture and detention with out trial.

[renaissanceguy]

19. Welcome to Amerika.

Compliments of the PATRIOT Act and fascists.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14744291

[bowens43]

4. Once the US arrives, it never leaves.

Take for example the two cases most often sited by these idiots, Japan and Germany. 50 years later, we're still there.

[NNN0LHI]

13. Don't forget Italy

Were still occupying them too. Thats what they get for fecking with the USA.

Don

[Massachusetts]

5. O.K.

[jjtss]

6. Yup, they are liberators...can't deny that....

So far they have liberated those Iraqis from their homes, their zoo, their oil, their utilities, and about 8 billion dollars. Now that's liberation!!!! And the rest of the world watched and remembers!!!!!

[Placebo]

7. I thought the "liberation" was complete?

Every second after that, we're occupiers.

[ET Awful]

8. Didn't he tell us a few months ago that there would be over 130,000

Iraqi security troops trained by the end of 2004?

[SodoffBush]

9. He and Bush need to get together and get their story straight

He knows the troops eat up propaganda as fast as it's dished out, all the more so when it's personally spoon-fed.

[Magleetis]

10. I can't figure out

why there is nary a mention of the thousands that the US has killed in Iraq. In my mind it is ludicrous to claim that you are freeing people when at the same time you are slaughtering them.

[Mr_Spock]

11. Rumpsfeld - Liar, Not Human

What a stupid lying crony he is.

[Southern Dem 2005]

12. Actually, what they are liberating is a bunch of money

from US taxpayers to pay for rebuilding the country we bombed into rubble.

[rocktivity]

14. Were you a liberator or an occupier when this was taken, Rummy?

:headbang:
rocknation

[LynnTheDem]

15. Only 2% of Iraqis View the US as Liberators, 97% as OCCUPIERS.

http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=7752&fcategory_desc=Under%20Reported

We showed something to the world, alright...but "liberators" and "liberation" most certainly isn't anything to do with it.

[ConcernedNonpartisan]

21. Can I assume the other 1% are dead?

[LynnTheDem]

25. Not sure where the other 1% went

"don't know"s or "too scared to answer"s.

[LynnTheDem]

16. World Polls; dislike of Bush metamorphosing into dislike of Americans...

Poll: World worries about new Bush term

Survey shows a majority in 16 of 21 nations believe Bush could make world more dangerous.

58 percent of those surveyed said they believed US President George Bush will have a "negative impact on peace and security."
Only 26 percent of those surveyed believed Mr. Bush was a positive force. The situation in Iraq was a key factor in many people's opinion of the US. The Guardian reports that the survey also indicates that, for the first time, the dislike of Mr. Bush is translating into a dislike of Americans in general.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0120/dailyUpdate.html

[Career Prole]

17. Tell it to the jury, buttwad. n/t

[Az_lefty]

18. We might have been "Liberators" in March of 03'

but not today. Their plan was so screwed up that they've turned liberation into occupation and they have no one to blame but themselves.

[Jack Rabbit]

20. War is peace, freedom is slavery

and colonial occupation is liberation.

I wished he'd make a stopover in The Hague on his way back.

[slor]

22. The Germans were treated as liberators...

in the early days of their invasion of Russia, in certain parts of the country. We all know how that ended.

[ernstbass]

23. The world according to Rummie

is not the same one I live in

[Javaman]

24. Perhaps, Jackass rumspuke and stay there until they are trained?

[Nostradamus]

26. two purple hearts..one less than John Kerry

oh sorry..that's LAST year's news..

[EST]

27. Every damned aggressor, in every damned war there ever

was, has referred to itself as "liberators."
Nuttin' new here, same lousy lyin' crooks, same lousy propaganda.

[indepat]

28. Geez, surely Rummy's pants are continuously on fire

[geniph]

29. War is Peace! Freedom is Slavery! Black is White!

Occupation is Liberation!

Gawd, I'm beginning to think Orwell was a time traveler. He just got the year wrong.

The whole idea behind DoubleThink was to induce cognitive dissonance - a state wherein people become confused and very suggestible. Did Atwater and Rove study 1984 as a campaign manual?

[txaslftist]

30. Lovely for the 50,000+ Iraqis 'liberated' from this mortal coil

[insane_cratic_gal]

31. This look like the face of liberation?

A man and child lie injured in al-Yarmouk hospital after a bomb exploded in Dora, south of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites) Friday, Feb. 11, 2005. The blast injured four after children playing in a rubbish dump moved the device. (AP Photo/Asaad Muhsin)


Kids crawling through trash bins (probably not playing but looking for FOOD!) only to set off a explosive device?

We don't have time to be liberators, our troops are too busy dodging bullets to be liberators

[yorkiemommie1]

32. yes and war is peace,

ignorance is strength

freedom is slavery - orwell -1984

we know the drill, rummy!