(Cols. Dispatch) Gahanna (Ohio) Voting Glitch Explained ..4K Bush votes

[farmbo]

http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2005/02/12/20050212-B1-00.html&chck=t



Fourteen weeks after the Nov. 2 election and the release of unofficial totals that counted 3,893 extra votes for President Bush in Gahanna’s Precinct 1-B, officials said a computer trying to do two things at once is to blame
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After isolating the glitch to the tabulating zone, where removable voting-machine cartridges are plugged into a reader and transmitted to a laptop computer that sends data to the countywide tabulator, the company focused on those steps.

Its conclusion: The laptop computer that collects and sends data was busy completing another task at the exact moment it was receiving numbers from Gahanna 1-B. "As a result, the laptop did not receive the data as fast as it was sent . . . and consequently, data was lost," the report said.
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The BOE contractor attempts to explain the error but NOT why it translated to 3,893 votes for Bush, rather than a simple "error" message.

[indepat]

1. 3,893 extra votes for Bush by one glitch in one precinct: thankfully, no

other glitches occurred nationwide.

[Botany]

2. I live in Columbus, Ohio

Gahanna is right next to where my house is .......
The Dispatch is a pro bush paper and has worked on killing the vote fraud story in
Ohio. It was not until 1/5/05 (the day before the Conyers report and the Boxer
Rebellion) that the Dispatch did a real compiled story about the many different
election problems.

I went to a hearing where i gave a sworn statement about election fraud that
I saw first hand on 11/15/04 ...... more than 5 different people (I got to the meeting
when it was more than 1/2 done) got up and testified they pushed the button for
Kerry and the light went on for bush. On 11/16/04 the Dispatch had the story
on page 6 of the metro section with most being about some stupid "arty" women
who wanted everybody to put an x on their foreheads to "show" they had been Xed
out. Only 1 sentence about vote flipping in the machines. This story is damage
control and spin.

Farmbo said it best ....... how come they went as bush votes and not as an error
message? The machine had to have a default setting to flip or add extra votes
to the bush total.

I wonder if the Vanity Fair article that Ohio was stolen coming out is rattling some cages?

http://www.thousandreasons.org/get_article.php?article_id=13

Stephanie :loveya: Miller

[Merlin]

8. Thanks for your contribution, Botany.

Both at the hearings and in telling your story here.

[Botany]

11. No problem ....

.... hope you learned something new.

Ohio was so dirty ...it will be tough to keep it hidden.

:bounce:

[DELUSIONAL]

3. Oh sure -- the probability that all glitches & errors were in bush's favor

would be like one person winning ALL the lotteries in the world -- this one person had the exact winning number combinations for all the lotteries in the whole universe . . . .

[UL_Approved]

4. Bullshit

Computers operate on bus synchronization. ALL protocols operate with some form of flow control. This is just a cop-out for vote fraud. This is not a valid argument. But, sadly, it will be the "official" story.

[farmbo]

5. Presumably the BOE will now make that laptop available to real experts

...rather than the tech guy for the contracting company.

[Botany]

6. Can you explain that to me?

Remember my computer knowledge is small.

thank you

[mulethree]

20. Ever over-fill your car's gas tank?

The car uses (processes) gas a little bit at a time. The gas tank holds (buffers) gas until the car needs it. The gas gauge tells you when you have more room for gas. The gas pump shuts itself off when it detects that the tank is nearly full.

Ok, computer = car
data = gas
buffer = gas tank

They are claiming that the data feed (gas pump) outran (over filled) the buffer (tank) and as a result, the computer spit out bad results.

So the gas pump didn't shut off correctly, gas spilled on the ground, and the elections people didn't notice. Then someone saw the fire (impossible results) and pulled the fire alarm.

roughly

[UL_Approved]

23. Computers have an agreement on transfer rate

This is called flow control.

All properly written software/hardware designs have it.

In these systems, as an analogy, if the tank being dumped into is being filled too fast, or is too full, then a signal is sent to the pump to shut off for a while.

The data rate overflow is ridiculous. This is the work of poor software design and misuse of the software.

[0rganism]

24. Unbelievably poor design and misuse, or cover story for outright fraud?

I'm finding it very difficult to come up with a scenario where tabulating software translates a corrupted data transfer into specific extra votes for a candidate. What, is there no data parity check? No CRC transmitted? No back-off signal to the client machines? This is hard to fathom. It would take a willful effort to sell software so lousy that this would happen -- and for an important national function?

OK, I've got one possibility. The tabulator sends a back-off signal to the transmitter after part of the data has been received. Maybe this partial data is piggybacked on a handshake or data rate negotiation, or some other such stupidity. The transmitting client does stop, and begins again by retransmitting the entire series. However, rather than resetting the transaction on its side, the tabulator stupidly records the partial data it received along with the retransmitted full data set. Thus bush ends up with extra votes from one or more partial tabulations.

In order for this to occur, there has to be
* completely incompetent software design
* absolutely no competent QA to speak of

And it would be sheer stupidity to assume that it happened in one and only one precinct.

In short, whoever signed off on the tabulating software should be indicted either for gross negligence or election fraud.

[Merlin]

7. The link isn't working for me. Anybody else?

I keep getting some message about my cookies needing reset. But that's bogus because I allow cookies and have a problem with none of the other thousands of news sites I visit.

[farmbo]

9. Thy this...

http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2005/02/12/20050212-B1-00.html&chck=t

[Merlin]

15. Same thing.

Says:

The "cookies" on your Web browser need to be reset so that our site will work for you.
Please click here for more information about cookies: what they are, and how to enable them on your browser.

[mod mom]

10. The Columbus Dispatch (the Columbus Disgrace) is not a credible

source. They rode to the Repug Convention on Air Force One then issued a schizophrenic endorsement, listing errors of the bush administration then endorsing him. Not for my eyes, I prefer the truth.

[leesa]

12. A computer trying to do two things??? Like register a vote for either

Bush or Kerry....got confused and just had to vote Bush?? What a coincidence. Republicans are filthy liars.

[Merlot]

13. My computer sure can't do two things at once

like download email and internet, access the network, open programs, redraw images...no wait, my computer CAN do all those things at once! and it's an old (5 years) mac.

If my computer has "to many things" to do at once, it CRASHES and needs to be restarted. It doesn't make "decisions" about what it should do or who it should vote for (although, being a mac, I'm sure it would vote dem ; )

[KingoftheJungle]

14. Computers are designed to do two things at once

This explanation is so full of shit I feel like I need a shower.

[farmbo]

16. And, Oh yeah...the BOE was also playing Madden 2005 and downloading Pix...

... from "Beverly's Boudoir" at the time.

And THAT'S why all those votes defaulted to Bush.

Phew!!...I'm glad we can put all those "conspiracy theories" to rest now...What we're we THINKING!?

[Tracyjo]

17. If data was lost

wouldn't you think it would mean a loss of votes instead of an addition?

I can't get to the article either.

[Bluebear]

18. What was it, a Commodore 64?? nt

[droidamus]

19. oops entered in wrong thread

sorry about that

[llmart]

21. And amazingly .......

this never happened with Bush votes going to Kerry by mistake.


What a load of horseshit!

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