Gay nups bill is off GOP agenda (Says Frist for this year)

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/280766p-240483c.html

Republicans have abandoned banning gay marriage this year, the Senate's leader said yesterday.

A constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman grew less urgent because 13 states banned gay nuptials in November elections, said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.).

When asked if the legislation will be introduced, Frist replied, "Maybe not this year, but in all likelihood in this Congress."

"It may be this year," he added a moment later, sounding unsure during a "Fox News Sunday" interview.

[hatrack]

1. Gays are such a threat to America's families that we have no choice . . .

. . . but to postpone any vote on a meaningless Constitutional exercise in dead-horse flogging until an election year.

What a bunch of :puke:

[TaleWgnDg]

37. exactly. And to be used over and over again . . .

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[Voltaire99]

56. Yes. They'll reinnoculate the hateful and ignorant again in, oh, 2006.

Every two years seems to do the trick. Funny how it works out that way.

[tanyev]

2. But of course.

They wouldn't be able to use it as an issue in 06 or 08 if they actually passed it now. Same thing for abortion. That carrot on the end of the stick is useless once it is eaten.

[dbt]

3. Yo, Fundies.

Your boy played bait-and-switch with you, didn't he? Of course, you fell for a MASTER baiter!

:evilgrin:
dbt

[Supersedeas]

33. Fundies, you got played by Slick Doctor Rove

[RPM]

53. but, but, but... W is a man of God!!!!!

i wonder if his religion washes away as quickly as his connectic, uh, I mean Texas accent...

:eyes:

[blm]

4. Because they want to use it against Dem incumbents during campaign 2006.

Just like Bush used it in 2004. They don't really care personally about whether gays marry or not, they just know it's a surefire way to make the fundies who DO care get out and vote.

The GOP manipulators use this as their golden carrot for fundies. That's why you'll never see them really ban abortion. They WANT to keep it as another carrot for fundie votes.

[trogdor]

12. Remember this answer:

Dem. Senate challenger in PA: If this was so gosh-darned important, Sen. Santorum, why didn't the Congress get to it until just last month? Why has it been shelved since early 2005?

[AndyTiedye]

22. Don't Bet On It

The fundies own the voting machinez. The regime will give them what they want.
Come next election, they'll be pushing to bring back sodomy laws
and that will really bring out the haters.

[genieroze]

29. Squeal like a pig, I thought they liked sodomy. No wait, that's only

unwanted sodomy. Consensual sodomy is unmerikan.

[VegasWolf]

5. Yep, tuck it away until you need to motivate the sheep next election.n/t

[sellitman]

50. Bingo!

It is just bait to get the Fundies to the polls and to take our minds off the shitty job he is doing with everything he touches.

<--bush the lesser

[rocktivity]

6. Could this be the reason why?

http://www.americablog.org/

:evilgrin:
rocknation

[CottonBear]

13. Ding, ding, ding!

We have a winner!

[genieroze]

31. Holy Crap. eom

[TrogL]

7. but...but...but...but...

That was a campaign promise!!

[mutus_frutex]

8. Therefore, this is the right time for gays and lesbians to force the hand.

Instead of doing what a lot of people in this board propose (pick your battles), they should mount an all-out effort to legalize. Regardless of the outcome it would be good.

[LiberalinNC]

9. We haven't seen the end of this issue...

It will "pop up" whenever "they" need something to fall back on.

And oh yeah, it was a campaign promise, sure it was, it was just another way to "get the vote"...lairs!

[CottonBear]

11. That was the #1 reason my in-laws voted for *.

I can't wait to bring this topic up in conversation.

[LiberalinNC]

14. And they bought it, hook, line and sinker...

Along w/ all those other fools that bought it!

[CottonBear]

16. They probably will never know about this since

their only news source is Faux News. The irony is that my deceased brother-in-law has a gay son. The son was not invited to the funeral and was not mentioned in the obituary or in the eulogy. They didn't even tell the Catholic Deacon who performed the service that the gay son even existed. I had to sit through the whole thing knowing that they all knew about him but none of them would even say how un-Christian they were acting. This was in southern LA.

[LiberalinNC]

23. That's horrible! If that was my brother, or son,

I would have wanted him there! People are so judge mental and cruel. When I hear things like this, it breaks my heart. As a mother I could never deny my child.

[CottonBear]

28. It was so horrible.

I couldn't say anything. It wouldn't have been appropriate. Later on that weekend, my sister-in-law used the N_____ word. These are the same folks that said that if David Duke ran again they'd vote for him. My husband escaped the hell that is Southern LA in the late 1960s and never moved back except to nurse his father during his final months of life. (He is the only one with a college education in the whole family.) The in-laws are passing on their racism and homophobia to their kids and grandkids. :scared:

[Maat]

43. Oh, CottonBear, how tragic!

I hope that you communicate with your nephew. I hope he is doing o.k. You know, if I were him, I might have showed up at the funeral anyway (unless they didn't tell him).

[CottonBear]

51. My husband & I are going to try and visit him

when we go to New Orleans. He lives there now. My sister-in-law lives in Lacombe, which is across the lake from New Orleans. My husband knew him befor he came out of the closet. I've never met him and it's been almost 12 years since I met the family. I never would have known he existed unless my husband told me. No pictures, no mentions of another son. He knew about his dad's death. They were so estranged that he just gave up on reconciling with his dad. It is so very sad. He has the same name as his dad. I think that he would be glad to hear from us. We will probably have a good time in New Orleans. Maybe we can visit for Mardi Gras!

[catmandu57]

10. Do you suppose the brain dead repuke voting zombies

will realize that they've been played lande photographed and thrown back, or will the light come on?
It may be fun to watch as bubba realizes that once the vote is counted they are'nt even going to get a kiss.

[Emboldened Chimp]

15. Saving it for midterms...

...what a bunch of cynical assholes.

[underpants]

18. Yeah but it still has to be a *SMACK* in the face

:bounce:

[David Zephyr]

44. Yep.

What a wicked crowd these men are.

[Spacejet]

17. Bahahaha

once again the christian fundamentalists were used and thrown away in a rove election year scheme. I can't wait to hear the crying.

[DirtyDawg]

19. They Don't Need It....

...nationally so long as they can introduce this kind of legislation at the state level. Just as in 2004 where they cherry-picked the states with important Senatorial and/or Governor's races, or were considered 'battleground' states, they'll do the same thing in '06 to get their right wing homophobes out in force.

[Imalittleteapot]

20. Saving it for 2006 and 2008 - infinity.

They can't fool me. The gay marriage agenda was developed to bring the wacko homophobes out to the polls. It worked so well for the GOP that they want to use it again and again and again, until they come up with a better divisive issue. Gay marriage in combination with abortion is the hallmark of the party.

[ktowntennesseedem]

34. Bingo! Can't get as much mileage out of it

in a non-election year. They'll wait to closer to mid-terms, trot the issue back out, and wave their family-values banner high for all homophobes to see on the way to the polls.

[singe]

21. off the gop agenda

maybe gannon's photo layout is having a positive effect on bushco?

[UrbScotty]

24. I trust Republicans.

They'll keep their word. Heck, the last time they didn't was way back in 2005!

[PunkPop]

25. Once again further proof that the religously deluded right-wingers

in this country are about the stupidest people on earth.

[geniph]

26. They need their wedge issues much too badly

to dispose of them. See, if most of the people in this country were actually voting on things that directly affect them - economic policies, forever wars, etc. - most folks would be voting for Democrats. So the Republicans always have to have an "enemy." For a long time, it was the "commies" - the Red Scare could always be used to drum up votes through fear that the "commies" were "infiltrating." The worst thing that ever happened to the Republicans was the fall of the Soviet Union - it left them with no ready enemies at hand. So they've fallen back on the strategem that has served tyrannical regimes since time immemorial - attacking anyone whose beliefs differ from the majority (and these are the people who claim they don't want the "tyranny of the majority"). The social issues - Guns, Gays, Abortions, and Oppressed Christians - are all they have, and they know it. If they cannot divide us with those issues, then most people's basic economic beliefs fall much more in line with Democratic principles than with the party of Eternal Corporate Welfare.

[lala_rawraw]

27. Awwwwwwwww

Was it for scotty or for kenny?

[The_Casual_Observer]

30. Let me guess, abortion is off the agenda too.

The agenda is all about rich guys getting richer.

[Roland99]

32. 2006 is an election year...you can bet it WILL be an issue!

It helped garner more Fund-A-Mental case votes for Bush in 2004.

[UCLA Dem]

35. funny. i thought a grave threat such as this would demand immediate action

all the bible thumpers must be furious now.

[prodigal_green]

36. same as abortion

they've got to keep it out there or there is no librul enemy to motivate the base.

btw, doesn't al Qaeda translate to "the base?"

[Walt Starr]

38. They'll save it for next year when they can get election mileage over it

They don't give a shit unless an election is on the line.

[deadparrot]

39. Yes, God forbid

two people love each other and want to build a life together. Yes, indeed, society as we know it will crumble.

Does anyone loathe this cabal as much as I do? Because I know every day for four years now, my frustration grows a little more with these neocon religious lunatics, and every day I wonder if I can find it in me to despise them more than I do now. Somehow I can.

[northernsoul]

40. gotta have that issue out for the 2006 midterms

without a wedge issue to have normal Americans clawing eachother's eyes out over, Republicans don't stand a chance.

[napi21]

41. But, didn't they get a memo from the evangelicals demanding

that they get their issues taken care of? It wasn't more than a few weeks ago. Something about "we're the ones that got you re-elected, and now we want paid back".

They're not gonna be happy campers!!!

[CoffeeCat]

42. This is about BushCo being arrogant, reckless and sociopathic...

BushCo knows how important the "no gays marryin" issue is to the fundies.

Two weeks ago, several pastors and preachers (one was Billy Graham's son) appeared on Larry King Live to throw down the gauntlet. They said that they didn't know if Bush was a man of his word yet--but they would soon find out. They said Bush promised to "protect marriage" and if he does, then he is a man of his word.

These fundienuts were not happy.

If BushCo re-heats this issue, just in time for 06--I doubt these nutballs will fall for it again. It will be too obvious.

Bush owed these people something. He could have just appeased them and repaid them for election services rendered. But no...Bush can't even play fair with those who helped to put him in the White House. He's gotta screw over those people too.

I think Bush detests being told what to do. He's like that little kid in Willy Wonka who wants to eat his dinner in front of the television--a real hyperactive, myopic brat.

I think Bush's actions demonstrate what a complete fiend he is.

[Maat]

46. Were they REALLY unhappy, or just pretending?

I have to remember that these guys are all members of "the Arlington Group," and they meet with Rove regularly, or at least were. Perhaps they all make out by taking a certain stance.

Arlington members = Dobson, or his org, Focus on the Family, Perkins or his org, Family Research Council, Bauer, Falwell, Wildmon/the American Family Association, affiliated with agapepress.org, D. James Kennedy of Coral Ridge Ministries, Richard Land and/or the Southern Baptist Convention. An amazing number of these guys used to be identified as belonging to the secretive Council for National Policy.

The Arlington-Groupies can all go on T.V. and moan and gripe, and the money flows into them.

What is really up?

Perhaps the only dupes are the ones sending $ to them.

[Anakin Skywalker]

45. Aww. Dumping the Fundies Now

that Bushie had won. Take that, dumb ass fundies! Hah hah. :)

[Hell in a Handbasket]

47. wow, you mean even though the bushbots lined up and did their part...

it's not gonna pay off?

[ignatius 2]

48. Not an election year, no need for this nation divider.

They are soooo transparent for all but those who refuse to see.

[zara]

49. bread and circus games for the masses!

well, at least circus games and gladiatorial bouts!

[RPM]

52. got re-elected, no need to press the issue now...

... still need the wedge for the next election

[leesa]

54. It's sooooo easy to con Fundies! They NEVER think. They NEVER

learn anything.

[RetroLounge]

55. Like we didn't see this coming

Stupid ass fundies got played...

RL