Keyes' daughter says she's 'liberal queer'

[arcos]

Keyes' daughter says she's 'liberal queer'



ANNAPOLIS, Md. - The daughter of conservative Republican Alan Keyes referred to herself Monday as a “liberal queer” and urged support for gay and lesbian young people who have been deserted by their families.

Maya Marcel-Keyes, 19, addressed a rally sponsored by the gay-rights group Equality Maryland, saying she was motivated to speak out because of her rocky relationship with her parents and the recent death of a friend who had fallen ill after being thrown out of the house by his family.

Marcel-Keyes told several hundred supporters that her sexuality had created a rift in her relationship with her parents.

“Things just came to a head. Liberal queer plus conservative Republican just doesn’t mesh well,” she said. “That was making my life a little bit turbulent.”

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6971166/

[DIKB]

2. I'm assuming

That calling herself queer is a disarmament technique, as well as a blow to her parents. Kinda how I joke about being short, "Look man, I will BITE your kneecaps."

[JI7]

"queer eye for the straight guy"

the term "queer" no longer has a negative connotation as it once did. a lot of gays seem to use the term for themselves in a way to show it's nothing to be ashamed of.

i think "fag" and even "homo" is probably seen more in a negative way.

[TomClash]

19. Queer Eye for the Stupid Guy

[bunkerbuster1]

24. Have you really never heard it used that way before?

Interesting.

<on edit>

Nothing snarky intended, I just thought that this "disarming" technique was pretty well known at this point.

[mrdmk]

93. In Academia the study it is called, "Queer Theory". eom

[Avalon Sparks]

3. Here's her blog....

It's very moving.

http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=Xmisled0youthX

[StrongbadTehAwesome]

4. Maya confuses me.

She has as much right to her own opinions as anyone else, but her relationship with her parents wasn't rocky enough to stop her from campaigning with her dad in IL this fall. Oh, yeah, and she thinks abortion is genocide of African-Americans. :wtf:

[lady lib]

7. Seems like she was still trying to win her dad's love

in part by campaigning for him. As for her views on abortion they likely came from listening to dear old dad. Suffice to say she'll never have to make that choice for herself.

[iamjoy]

34. A Jew In Hitler's Army

I was ready to call her a whore - campaigning for her father, when he has so little regard for her. I never thought of it from the trying to win Daddy's love perspective. In which case, I ache for her and Keyes is the whore for taking her support when he disagrees with her lifestyle.

But still, any homosexual who works for an anti-gay candidate, something wrong there....

[sonicx]

8. I think she's a born againer

[girl gone mad]

11. She's just a kid..

I'll cut her some slack, especially considering the household she is coming from.

It took many years of being away from my parents before I finally felt like I was a real, healthy person. Even when I was able to think for myself, I was often too afraid to express my true opinions. I probably would have lied to anyone in order to win my father's approval. That is what a strict conservative religious upbringing can do to a person.

[CO Liberal]

23. In Many Ways...

...a "strict conservative religious upbringing" can be a form of child abuse, IMHO.

[donheld]

41. COliberal, you are exactly right

I've been there, and i've seen it happen over and over.

[CO Liberal]

89. Look At "Carrie" in the Stephen King Novel

A classic example.

[onebox30]

95. Great point!

In a just society, their children would be rescued from the abusive situation by Child Welfare Services.

[mutus_frutex]

36. I totally agree..

I'm the first person to bash "born-again"s, but she is young and has probably been exposed to so much crap that she need time for a detox..

Lets give her 10 years and see how she does..

[Fleshdancer]

12. She attempted the easy route for a while

It's easier to live the life your parents expect from you than what you expect for yourself. The closet can be beautiful, but it's rarely comfortable.

[JI7]

14. well, she is only 19

so in the legal sense it has just been about 1 year since she could actually act upon any choices she might make which involved being away from the parents.

and i think it's pretty nice that even during the campaign she would tell the truth about her situation on her website.

i think her being kicked out of the home probably had more to do with her wanting to be open and wanting to speak out against the hate rather than just being lesbian in itself.

[TahitiNut]

15. Yep. And a damned impressive one, too.

I was quite impressed with her equanimity, poise, and bright outlook. She's got a lot of living to do before her opinions are well-informed, and I can only be optimistic about her prospects.

I detest damned near every position Alan Keyes has taken ... but he and his wife raised a bright, charming daughter. She's possibly his best accomplishment. He's an ass for not knowing that.

[Pachamama]

17. "She's possibly (Keyes) best accomplishment-he's an ass for not knowing it

Couldn't agree with you more TahitiNut! :hi:

I wish her much luck and healing and happiness....I think she'll be fine, but there is pain there....

I cannot believe any parent would turn on their kid like that....some family values.....

[okieinpain]

37. exactly. america eats it's young. what we won't do for a buck.

[jdj]

88. bright is a good word...she glows.

she's well spoken but she still has that giddy kid-attitude, it's so cute.

I can't imagine taking on something like this at 19.

What was so hilarious is that during the interview on CNN, Leslie looked livid, it was like he was in shock and it wasn't from that interview. This was right at the same time the Gannons porn pics were hitting the internet, and I think he was almost catatonic. You could just see the bewilderment in his eyes.

[TahitiNut]

98. Yes, she does. Any dad that wouldn't be proud of her is psychotic.

I think Wolfie was non-plussed that she wouldn't give a canned, petulant answer. She turned her nose up at his cheap bait. She showed poise and kept positive. I got the distinct feeling she punctured his interview balloon - leaving him nowhere to go. He's a crap interviewer anyway.

Fer krissakes! Just compare her to the twins! She wipes the floor with them! And they're supposedly college grads?

[Fleshdancer]

16. exactly...

I look back on my decisions at 19 and they were never this heavy. I can't begin to imagine what this young woman has to endure.

[demodonkey]

13. She's 19 years old for Pete's Sake... I think her opinions may not be...

fully formed yet, especially in light of her Family situation!

[Fleshdancer]

5. as a parent, I just don't understand

I look at my daughter and I see present growth and future perfection. I don't care how she loves, I just hope she finds someone worthy of such love.

The Alan Keyes of this world confuse the hell out of me. You can't truly love someone if you aren't capable of accepting who they are. May Marcel live the life she wants and may she find a way to separate her identity from her father's politics in a way that makes her feel complete peace within herself.

[Erika]

10. I agree. Let them find love.

I am disgusted with Keyes. The Bible says not to judge but he has, against his own daughter.

[Spinzonner]

6. I wonder which one of those her father hates most

[sonicx]

9. CNN Interview from Crooks and Liars

http://movies.ziaspace.com/Wolf%20Blitzer_Maya.wmv

Great site (but i'm sure you all knew that already)

[Disturbed]

18. I have a gay daughter.

My wife and I have two daughters and two sons. They are all over 21 now. One of my daughters told us that she was a Bi when she was 16. It was a shock to us. We went to a counselor with her to talk about the situation. Not to change her but to allow all of us to adjust to the news. The other children just seemed to accept the news rather quickly with no counseling required. We adjusted and so did the entire family and are real proud of her as we are of all of our children. Several years later she felt that she was lesbian. We were all fine with that. I don't know how quick of an adjustment I would have made if one or both of my sons announced that they were gay but hopefully that would have been similar as with my daughter. I am so glad that I turned out to be a leftie,coming from a Conservative Mom and Dad. that's another story for another time. ;0)

[Maine-ah]

20. I don't know,

I watched the interview last night, and I don't know if it's her age, but she was laughing through the whole interview, with a grin on her face. My husband and I had a hard time believing her. What it looks like to us is that she's just trying to piss her parents off. Maybe we're wrong, but thats how she came across.

[hollowdweller]

21. Anybody ever notice a big difference between the kids of Dems and GOP's?

Seems like often that the kids of Dem political figures seem to embody The values that the Republicans are pushing socially, but the Republican kids seem to be the exact opposite of what the GOP is trying to portray.

[Renew Deal]

22. She looks a lot like he dad.

It's tough being 19 and having that kind of family trouble. Hopefully her and her parents can work it out.

[0007]

25. She's a beautiful girl with a good head.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

26. It's obvious she was infected with homsexuality by liberal upbringing

Not!:evilgrin:

What does this say about nature versus nurture in a persons sexual preferences?

[dhinojosa]

27. Daughter of conservative Republican calls herself 'liberal queer'

Tuesday, February 15, 2005 Posted: 8:17 AM EST (1317 GMT)



Maya Marcel-Keyes, daughter of conservative political commentator Alan Keyes, speaks Monday during a gay rights rally.


ANNAPOLIS, Maryland (AP) -- The daughter of conservative Republican Alan Keyes referred to herself Monday as a "liberal queer" and urged support for gay and lesbian young people who have been deserted by their families.

Maya Marcel-Keyes, 19, addressed a rally sponsored by the gay-rights group Equality Maryland, saying she was motivated to speak out because of her rocky relationship with her parents and the recent death of a friend who had fallen ill after being thrown out of the house by his family.

Marcel-Keyes told several hundred supporters that her sexuality had created a rift in her relationship with her parents.

"Things just came to a head. Liberal queer plus conservative Republican just doesn't mesh well," she said. "That was making my life a little bit turbulent."

[Corgigal]

28. Does this young lady have a place to live yet?

Poor kid. I got an extra couch if she needs a place to crash.
No one should be thrown out of their family for this.

[KissMeKate]

29. lots of queer kids get kicked out by their "family values" parents.

I guess they dont value their families after all.

My in laws are conservative, and have their son and his partner live with them, because they are going thru hard times. I hate my in laws' politics, but I respect them because of that. They put their money where their mouth is when they talk about "family values".

[GOPBasher]

30. Poor Maya. I echo the previous poster.

She can come crash at my place for a while. "Liberal queer" matches up pretty well with, "liberal, multicultural pluralist." We should mesh better than she and her slimeball father do.

[Arugula Latte]

31. Oh, if only she'd been raised in a God-fearing Christian household ...

...then she wouldn't have made this terrible "choice" in "lifestyle."

Oh, wait ... nevermind. :eyes:

[Maat]

32. Young adults in this situation are referred to ..

The Point Foundation, established to assist young adults attending university whose financial support disappears after they come out. Equality Maryland, I'm sure, is pointing her in the right direction to groups that can assist her, such as this wonderful foundation - and they will most probably be able to help.

This is a cause we should all support:
http://www.thepointfoundation.org/

[maxsolomon]

33. she better be for real & not a L.U.G.

because she just made her outsider status permanent by making it public.

i mean her LIBERALISM, of course. were you getting the flames ready?

[skeeters]

35. What Does That Mean

I really don't think being gay has anything to do with being a Liberal. Do us a favor and keep it to yourself. But if she wants to use it to rip Daddy, I'll join her.

Daddy ran the worst campaign you ever saw. Actually said, God endorsed him. I wrote and asked him to bring God down and have him back this up. Surprise, he never answered.

Barak Obama had the best line I wish Kerry would have used. In the debate Keyes was just God this and God that. Obama just looked at him and said, Man, I'm not running to be Minister of Illinois.

Gong. Fight Over.

[maxsolomon]

44. it means Lesbian Until Graduation

but i made it mean LIBERAL Until Graduation. I made a JOKE, & i anticipated your flames.

Congrats, you've proved yourself humorless. I never implied there is a link between homosexuality & liberalism. You did.

And i won't keep it to myself until you keep your sanctimony to yourself.

[maxsolomon]

45. it means Lesbian Until Graduation

but i made it mean LIBERAL Until Graduation. I made a JOKE, & i anticipated your flames.

Congrats, you've proved yourself humorless. I never implied there is a link between homosexuality & liberalism. You did.

And i won't keep it to myself until you keep your sanctimony to yourself.

[KissMeKate]

39. L.U.G.s are ok too.

if we didnt allow people to experiment with their sexuality, how could we pretend to endorse freedom if we wanted to enforse a "once gay, always gay" policy?

[galledgoblin]

38. I can't imagine what things are like for her

I'm a 19-year-old open lesbian, but I was lucky enough to have parents who accepted me. I went through hell when I came out. if it was hard for me, knowing that my parents would accept me, she must be under tremendous pressure.

[AmBlue]

101. Hi galledgoblin...and welcome

:hi:

[barb162]

40. I found two things interesting; that her wealthy parents aren't

going to pay for her education (have you ever seen photos of their mansion?) and she said she worked in her father's IL Senate campaign. And I have to wonder where her head is to work for the gay-basher father who is very conservative when she says she is liberal. Sounds like the Cheney deal.

[LondonAmerican]

42. she is his daughter

and sometime family trumps politics.

too bad her father can't understand that.

[Rush1184]

103. blood is thicker than water

[proud2BlibKansan]

102. Well if they don't claim her on their taxes

she can get Pell Grants for her college tuition.

[LinuxInsurgent]

43. I thought she self-described as an ANARCHIST QUEER

A liberal queer is one that believes in liberal democratic capitalism...as practiced in the U.S.

An ANARCHIST QUEER is someone who believes in gay rights...but also believes there should be no State...ala the Spanish Anarchists.

So...which is it?

Is she flinging the Anarchist (libertarian socialism) label around because it's a fad and cool to say...or is she really anarchist?

[Renew Deal]

46. Her website is linked to a bunch of anarchist sites.

[LondonAmerican]

48. the bolsheviks

used to joke that anarchists were 'liberals with guns.' i always thought that was one of their better efforts. and given her father's stance on the 2nd amendment, who knows if it's not even a literally exact description in this case? :P

[Lilith Velkor]

97. I think she's opening one closet door at a time

The L-word, and even the Q-word, are nowhere near as loaded as the A-word. The anarchists I know that are over 30 rarely use the term.

[Seldona]

47. These people will throw their children on the streets

and let them die before accepting them as gay?

And yet claim to be 'morals' and 'values' voters? Not to mention their incessant claims to working to 'save the family'.

I can't believe we are losing to these people!

[RamboLiberal]

49. Alan Keyes' Daughter Coming Out

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/13/politics/main673732.shtml

The 19-year-old daughter of Alan Keyes has a queer Valentine for the anti-gay rights conservative pundit and frequent Republican candidate.

Maya Marcel-Keyes will be making her first public appearance as a gay activist at a Valentine Day's rally in front of the Maryland State House, says Dan Furmansky, the leader of Equality Maryland, a gay rights group.

Last summer her father, a conservative pundit and frequent Republican candidate, caused a stir during the Republican convention by labeling Vice President Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter a sinner and calling homosexuality "selfish hedonism."

"It was kind of strange that he said it like a hypothetical," she told the Washington Post. "It was really kind of unpleasant."

Marcel-Keyes told the Post her parents have thrown her out of the house, stopped speaking to her and refuse to pay for college because she is gay. She said she loves her parents.

[HockeyMom]

Mother of a Gay Daughter

I would throw HIM out before I would throw out my own flesh and blood.

Mrs. Keyes, GET RID OF THE JERK.

[Tsiyu]

Daughter of Conservative Republican Calls Herself 'liberal Queer'

By Tom Stuckey Associated Press Writer
Published: Feb 14, 2005









ANNAPOLIS, Md. (AP) - The daughter of conservative Republican Alan Keyes referred to herself Monday as a "liberal queer" and urged support for gay and lesbian young people who have been deserted by their families.
Maya Marcel-Keyes, 19, addressed a rally sponsored by the gay-rights group Equality Maryland, saying she was motivated to speak out because of her rocky relationship with her parents and the recent death of a friend who had fallen ill after being thrown out of the house by his family.

Marcel-Keyes told several hundred supporters that her sexuality had created a rift in her relationship with her parents.

"Things just came to a head. Liberal queer plus conservative Republican just doesn't mesh well," she said. "That was making my life a little bit turbulent."

Later, Marcel-Keyes told CNN her parents "were not too pleased" when they learned she was a lesbian, but she said she loves them "very much, and they love me. They can't support my activities."

Her father, the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate in Illinois last year, created a stir in August when he said during an interview that homosexuality was "selfish hedonism" and that Vice President Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter was a sinner.

more:

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGB73DWK75E.html

[Misunderestimator]

What a courageous woman!

At 19, to be rejected by your RW fundie family, and to go public as an activist for gay rights... wow. I admire her. :thumbsup:

[TheDonkey]

Good she is finnally standing up and fighting

[DFWJock]

Alan Keyes = Total nutcase

I wish his daughter the best, oh and thanks Alan for once again showing up what "family values" are all about.

[Tsiyu]

Alan Keyes' daughter comes out as a lesbian

By Kevin Wayne
February 14, 2005

snip

Months after the election, the 19-year-old Maya came out Monday during an Equality Maryland rally in Annapolis, Md.

Maya told the Washington Post Monday her parents, Keyes and his wife, Jocelyn, threw her out of the family’s Chicago apartment, will not pay her college tuition and stopped speaking to her.

According to the Washington Post, despite the fact that Maya has been kicked out of her home, a San Francisco-based charity, the Point Foundation, has stepped in to provide the money needed for Maya to begin her studies at Brown University this fall.

snip

more:

http://www.chicagopride.com/news/article.cfm/articleid/2845600

[American liberal]

Oh, the irony

I really feel for her. Not only because her father is an ignoramus, but also because of the cruelty. I mean how would you feel if you were 19 (maybe 18 at the time) and your father had publicly stated that your sexual orientation made you a selfish hedonist? your own father?!

I truly admire her integrity and courage. This must be such a difficult time in her young life. I hope she has a strong support network. It's such a sad, poignant study in how ignorance and intolerance can sever one of the strongest bonds ever known to man: the father/daughter relationship. Shame on Alan Keyes.

[tanyev]

Is this why he threw her out?

Because he knew she would be making a public appearance? It wouldn't surprise me. Very Republican--they express disapproval of a lot things, but the worst sin of all is to be publicly exposed doing something they claim is wrong.

[renaissanceguy]

That's not what Dick Cheney did...

He just downplays the whole thing, and it's been working.

Sad what hypocrites people can be....

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/466053

[genieroze]

Good for her, she should be who she was born to be and be proud of it. eom

[LinuxInsurgent]

shame on Alan Keyes! She loves you...you dirty bastard!

Your daughter loves you...that hasn't changed...and you can't accept it for who she is.

Don't make the mistake of disowning your daughter...reconcile...if you don't do it know, in the future, the hate and pain of having been disowned might be too much for her.

You already screwed up with throwing her out...apologize to her and welcome her back into your life!

If you've taught her REAL Christian principles...she'll forgive you for your temporary lapse into hate...and still love you.

[LinuxInsurgent]

and she describes herself as a QUEER ANARCHIST

http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display_printable/117259/index.php

An Anarchist TOO!

Oh boy...talk about a bombshell for daddy!

Good for her...if she's anarchist, she's questioning capitalism, and questioning the linkages between it and homophobic behavior. Speaks volumes about her desire to be a critical thinker...and her courage against facing homophobia AND the prevailing capitalist beliefs.

This is a smart girl...I got to hand it to the father, who is also a VERY SMART man and has great oratorical skills (if absolutely no heart and a religious narrow-mindedness). Like father, like daughter...at least on intelligence. (credit where credit is due...her dad's smart)

But...wow...a QUEER ANARCHIST...talk about a shocker for daddy.

[Lisa]

so after she sets aside political differences and supports her dad ...

... this is how he repays her affection for him!

Wow. I really, really hope that he wakes up and realizes what a special person he's raised.

[LondonAmerican]

85. so much for rw family values

looks like the family feeling was all coming from one direction here. i feel bad for her.

[Redstone]

"she loves her parents."

even after they treat her like dirt, just for being who she is.

She can come live with us. We'd be proud to have her as our daughter.

Redstone

[Tsiyu]

From Gay.com:

Alan Keyes' daughter says she is a lesbian
by Eric Johnston
PlanetOut Network

snip...

"As long as I was quiet about being gay or my politics, we got along," she told the Post. "Then I went to the Counterinaugural," last month's protests in Washington against President Bush. "My father didn't like that."


Candace Gingrich, the youth outreach manager for the Human Rights Campaign, told the PlanetOut Network that Marcel-Keyes' coming out "shows courage."


Candace Gingrich has a few things in common with Marcel-Keyes. The lesbian activist is the half-sister of former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Republican with an anti-gay voting record.


"Maya's experience is not unlike what so many young queer people face," said Candace Gingrich. "That decision to come out is still sometimes fraught with things like being kicked out of your home. I've talked with people this has happened to, heard their stories. For every Maya ... there are hundreds of queer kids who find themselves in the same situation."


snip....

more:

http://www.gay.com/news/election/article.html?2005/02/14/2

[JI7]

50. she has been out for a while, but this is the first public appearance

i hope she does well. i would love to see it myself. i'm not sure if cspan would carry it. but i can't wait to read about it.

[Siyahamba]

54. She was out on her blog

But there was some doubt on whether it was in fact her blog - I don't believe she mentioned she was Maya Keyes anywhere in it, I could be wrong.

This is great news, she's very courageous to take such an active role.

[Tinoire]

74. It was her

I dug, dug on that one and checked with friends in the GLBT community who know her.

Very, very pretty bright young girl. I really wish her the best.

[hezekkia]

79. this is priceless!

:headbang:

[renaissanceguy]

Didn't I read somewhere on these boards

that it's the law of karma at work... A big homophobe is bound to have a gay kid....


http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14741193

[PartyPooper]

51. Wow. I am totally speechless!

:wow:

[oldtime dfl_er]

52. I wish his daughter well

and I wish it would make him see the light, but Im not holding my breath.

www.cafepress.com/showtheworld

[ogradda]

53. i'm sure she does love her parents.

the poor thing. that is so sad. and her parents are good "christian" people. even cheney, disgusting as he is didn't disown his own child.

[man4allcats]

55. How sad

that these people would disown their own daughter. And they call themselves Christian?

[NNN0LHI]

57. Cheney blew a fecking gasket every time someone mentioned his daughters...

...sexuality. His wife did too. They acted like they were bringing up a disabled child or something. Like the poor thing might get better some day if no one talks about it any more. And Cheneys daughter Mary played right along with the scam and became complicit with her silence. She is just as phony as her parents. Perhaps more so?

Don

[Voltaire99]

Which is why, had it any sense, the Democratic Party...

...would mention Cheney's daughter--positively, of course--in connection with every single instance of public policy concerning sexual preference. E.g., "This legislation will benefit members of society like Vice President Cheney's daughter, Mary, ensuring they are entitled to decent and fair treatment under the law."

What a great way to expose the hypocrisy at the heart of the right wing Puritan project, while using a kind of political judo to advance our cause.

But no. That type of cleverness is too risky for these jellyfish.

[dansolo]

That trick backfired

Are you forgetting the debates, where instead of Bush's ineptness in answering the questions, we got non-stop coverage of how Kerry was using Mary Cheney to score political points?

[ECH1969]

58. Cheney was and still is in denial about the whole thing

[NNN0LHI]

64. Mary Cheney had her partner with her at the Republican convention

The same convention that Cheney was at. How is he able to deny what he sees with his own two eyes? I don't get it. Do you think he maybe is hoping they are just really good friends or something? If that is what he doing I would not call it denial. I would call it insanity.

Don

[oasis]

70. To hell with the whole Cheney family. Rotten greedy bastards don't give

a rat's ass about anyone but themselves.

[JI7]

61. Keyes' daughter is far more braver than Mary Cheney though

Keyes' daughter isn't just standing by her dad through all the hate as Mary Cheney does. she is actually speaking out against it. and i'm thinking that may be where the actual conflict which led to her being kicked out of the home is. if she had kept quiet and just went about in private and not criticized her dad and other anti gay people then he might not have kicked her out. she spoke out even during the campaign.

but she is brave. especially as a young black lesbian female. i do wonder what the relationship between her and her brothers and mothers is like. hopefully she is close to her brothers and keep in contact. i'm sure she will get a lot of support from people around the country but she will also be targeted by the haters like her dad.

[ECH1969]

65. Mary Cheney actually has sway over her father though

Because of her he even disagreed with Bush's position on gays during the election. I doubt Keyes daughter has any sway over much of anything.

[JI7]

67. he still said he would support the anti gay amendment because of Bush

even though he isn't for it himself.

but the fact is that even Bush isn't really for it. it was always a political strategy to exploit the homophobia in this country to their advantage.

since the election Bush said he wont push for the amendment and he even supports civil unions.

and i'm sure this is why Cheney and even Mary Cheney had no problem supporting them. the difference with Maya Keyes is she speaks out against the hate also .

the same probably goes for roe v wade. he never said he opposed roe v wade or he would work to overturn it.

[ECH1969]

68. He said he doesn't believe in it

But, the president makes policy. Of course it is a cop out, but it is further then I ever expected him to go.

[Wilms]

75. Pardon the pun...

But that might have been a "Hail Mary" in attempt to save the Log Cabin Republican vote.

[DIKB]

56. He was acting in the spirit of Christ.

Kicking his daughter out of the house, shunning, and financially abandoning her. Exactly as Christ treated the tax-collectors, Mary Magdelene, the lepers, etc.

Wait a minute, lemme check my bible again . . . . . HOLY SHIT !!!!

And Christ said you would know his followers by their acts. How can these people be able to delude themselves into believing that they live according to the Bible ? I can respect true christians, though I don't agree with them. Yet these people put shame to the entire faith.

[renaissanceguy]

They do.

They ruin it for the compassionate Christians and other faiths out there....

It's a shame such a small group has so much power. And the MSM makes them look larger than life.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/466053

[PartyPooper]

59. DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!

Congratulations for the best post on this thread!

:D

:toast:

:hi:

[bluedeminredstate]

62. Thank you for mentioning this.

All these "values" people don't really try to act like Christ at all. What they mean in all their pious, sanctimoneous
pronouncements is Think like us, and judge harshly those who are "different"; they're not spreading the spirit of God's LOVE, they thrive on spreading God's supposed judgement of our sinfulness (well, except their own).
Disowning your child because of the way she was born and the way she will always be is more sinful than anything having to do with her sexual orientation. Does he really think she's ALL BAD and full of sin because of what she does in the privacy of her bedroom? He can't see past that to the person she is?
Mr. Keyes is in need of a spiritual intervention to remind him of Christ's teachings.

:crazy:

[LiberallyInclined]

63. i like your christ, but i do not like your christians...

they are so unlike your christ.

ghandi rocks.

[chookie]

60. She seems a sweetie

I just know her from her brief appearance in Michael Moore's "The Awful Truth", in which she encourages her skeptical father to mosh. She sealed the deal, and he moshed!

Such a sweetie -- if she is on the "outs" with her family, well, shame on them.

[Lisa]

1. I'm going to have to check that out on DVD ...

I remembered the mosh pit episode, but not her involvement -- I've always been amazed at the fact he actually went for it -- you know, it does make more sense now! Thanks for the info!

[JI7]

66. HAHAHHA, no wonder he did it

i didn't know it was her who got him to do it. he probably had no idea what it was about but i'm sure she did.

funny thing was during the debates Gary Bauer criticized Keyes' for it and how he jumped into the mosh pit while music by some liberals was playing. it was too funny.

[deadparrot]

69. I feel so bad for her.

I know no one wants to be pitied, but that has to be such a tough situation. I hope she ends up all right in the end, and I wish her the best of luck in sorting out her life and relationships.

[Sean Reynolds]

71. So much for 'family values'.

I mean, here's a father that throws his daughter out on the street, stops talking to her and refuses to pay for college. If this were under any other circumstances they'd call the parents 'dead beats'.

This is a great definition of family values, is it not?

[JI7]

72. maybe that's what Alan Keyes thinks God wants him to do

[BlackVelvetElvis]

73. I'm not sure if Keyes is in it for god's approval.

Maybe for expanding his little rw niche of support among the fundies.

[Wilms]

76. Good point.

You can pick your constituents, but you can't pick your family.

[Erika]

77. wonder if she will join Mary Cheney

as GOP whores who speak out when its an advantage to their political parents and their bank account, and then abandon the gays.

[JI7]

78. Maya Keyes spoke out BEFORE the elections

she was regularly blogging about her experience before the elections. including criticisms about her dad and his party.

believe me Maya Keyes is no Mary Cheney. she cares about others and i'm sure her being kicked out of the home had more to do with her being so outspoken against the hate than with her just being a lesbian.

[Dogmudgeon]

80. Pity Alan Keyes

The man has trashed his daughter, who appears to be a perfectly wonderful human being (in spite of her father).

He's going to have a real bad time on Judgement Day. So will all of us, I guess, but Keyes should know better.

--p!

[Erika]

81. After Bush and his treatment of gays

and his schizophrenia, I expect a book out where Keyes and his daughter tells all, and then worships the GOP shrine as Cheney and his daughter Mary did. Anything for a buck. The GOP way.

[maxrandb]

82. Alan Keyes' Daughter Coming Out

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/13/politics/main673732.shtml

Not sure if this is appropriate for Breaking News or not, but I did not see this posted anywhere. I guess a "silver lining" for the wing-nuts is that at least Keyes is not being a hypocrite. Nice to see how supportive and understanding he is though. What a piece of work this guy is. In any event, I guess all that lecturing and "churching" just didn't stick with his daughter. Does this mean his "family values" suck, or is it possible that his daughter just was born this way? I'd love to hear some "fundies" take on this. Will they say; "what a failure he is as a father", or will they say that "he obviously lost out to the 'gay agenda'?"

From the story:

Maya Marcel-Keyes will be making her first public appearance as a gay activist at a Valentine Day's rally in front of the Maryland State House, says Dan Furmansky, the leader of Equality Maryland, a gay rights group.

Last summer her father, a conservative pundit and frequent Republican candidate, caused a stir during the Republican convention by labeling Vice President Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter a sinner and calling homosexuality "selfish hedonism."

Marcel-Keyes told the Post her parents have thrown her out of the house, stopped speaking to her and refuse to pay for college because she is gay. She said she loves her parents.

[LynneSin]

83. Seems like this apple has fallen extremely far from the tree

Glad to see the rabid idiot gene her father has did not pass on to her!!

[Renew Deal]

84. Ain't that something.

Oh the irony.

[Ian David]

86. Maya Keyes speaks at gay rights rally

The Advocate, CA - 1 hour ago

Maya Keyes speaks at gay rights rally

Maya Keyes, the lesbian daughter of conservative Republican Alan Keyes, who is currently featured in an exclusive interview on Advocate.com, appealed to several hundred people at a rally in Annapolis, Md., on Monday to provide more support for gay and lesbian young people who have been deserted by their families and too often wind up being victims of violence on the streets. In her first public appearance since her sexual orientation began to attract public attention, Maya Marcel-Keyes said she was motivated to speak out because of the illness and recent death of a high school friend who was thrown out of the house by his family and by her own relationship with her parents.

At home, "things just came to a head. Liberal queer plus conservative Republican just doesn't mesh well," she said at the rally, sponsored by Equality Maryland to protest a proposed state constitutional ban on gay marriage and support bills aimed at guaranteeing more rights for gays. "That was making my life a little bit turbulent," she said.

After her speech, responding to questions from an interviewer for CNN, Marcel-Keyes said her parents "were not too pleased" when they learned she was a lesbian, but she said she loves them "very much, and they love me. They can't support my activities." Her father, the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate in Illinois last year, created a stir in August when he said during an interview in August that homosexuality is "selfish hedonism" and that Vice President Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter is a sinner.

During her speech, Marcel-Keyes contrasted the outpouring of support she received when her sexual orientation became known with that of her friend. "Like me, he grew up queer in a conservative household," she said. But where she got hundreds of e-mails, offers of a place to stay and a college scholarship, "he'd been out there two years and had gotten nothing. And the worst part is, he isn't the only one," Marcel-Keyes said. "We have to figure out what we can do to make sure that during those times when it seems like everything in the world is turning against them, like everyone in the world is rejecting them, that they know there are resources out there they can turn to, there are people out there who will say to them, 'I care."'

More:
http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=15150&sd=02/15/05

[Placebo]

87. I guess a flower really can grow from a pot of dirt.

We love ya Maya Marcel-Keyes!

[bigwillq]

90. I saw her on CNN last night and thought

she acted really silly. She didn't make herself look very good but I'm glad she "came out"

[Dr Fate]

91. A brave girl- her Pop should be ashamed of himself....

...there are good fathers out there who would be proud to have her.

[katty]

92. Maya isn't the only queer in the family, but good for her

she is striking out on her own-being around that nutball daddy of hers must be exhausting

[superconnected]

94. Good for her!

[roguevalley]

96. she seems like a nice girl trying to sort out HUGE crap in the

public spotlight. I like her and wish her well. She has a beautiful smile too. Good luck, honey.

[Gyre]

99. who give a sh*t?

Why does anybody pay attention to people who's only political position in life is focused on their genitals??? I just don't get it. It seems so irrelevant in comparison to life and death in Iraq, a stolen presidency, a thousand evils that have come to America since 1/2000.

Gyre

[elshiva]

100. ANYONE HERE "AWFUL TRUTH" FANS?

Remember that episode of Michael Moore's show "The Awful Truth" where he asked Alan Keyes to jump in the mosh pit? Maya was right by her Dad's side urging him to jump in. Maya rocks.