BREAKING! Paul Shanley Gets 12-15 years

[WLKjr]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6969993/

BOSTON - Defrocked priest Paul Shanley, one of the most recognizable figures in the Boston Archdiocese sex scandal, was sentenced Tuesday to 12-15 years after his conviction on child rape charges.

[Avalux]

1. That's it???

I know he's old BUT......12-15 years is nothing for all the horrible things he did under the name of God.

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[saigon68]

29. Adios

[egoprofit]

22. don't worry the other inmates will take care of him...

as i recall the last priest that was convicted was killed in prison a few years later...

[UCLA Dem]

36. that could amount to a death sentence.

[ElectroPrincess]

2. If they wish for him to serve his entire sentence (12-15 years)

they best segregate him from the general population. Otherwise IMO he's dead within a year or two.

[LinuxInsurgent]

4. Short Eyes walking...Short Eyes walking...

isn't that how it is?

Oh the Tyrones and Jose's are waiting for this mofo....

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[WLKjr]

6. I don't wish any harm on anyone but

he will be a prime target in prison becuase he is a child rapist. How do I know this? well I know a lot of people that work for the prison system.

[LinuxInsurgent]

13. oh..he's getting ass-raped for sure

I've got friend who were in prison...there's nothing more violently detested, even by murders and other criminals, than a man who preys on children.

Pray that they don't rip apart in the process..because it's GONNA happen.

[Dookus]

25. sorry...

rape shouldn't be part of our justice system. I think it's disgusting how so many people here seem to think it should be.

[mitchum]

38. Agree with you

I am a rather mean and vindictive person, but am also always appalled at gleeful contemplation of prison rape.

[Mizmoon]

7. Not enough time to truly punish this vile, inhuman monster

however, as always, I am totally repulsed by the universal hope that the perp gets raped in prison. It is disgusting that in this country we consider rape to be part of the punishment.

[WLKjr]

8. hate begets hate

it's what I have always been told. But as I told another poster, that man will be a prime target in prison mostly because he is a child rapist.

[CheshireCat]

23. Thank you Mizmoon.

You stated my feelings in clear and brief language.

I, too, am totally repulsed by the universal hope that the perp gets raped in prison. When did Americans start believing that being locked up, alone & away from all that you love and care about, is "getting off easy"?

In this case, this poor excuse for a man will be jailed for life. 15 years for a man of his age IS LIFE. Considering his crime, I doubt he will last 15 years.

By letting inmates rape each other, we are no better and no more civilized than the torturers at Abu Gharib and Gitmo.

[NashVegas]

28. I Don't Think Anyone Is *Hoping* He'll Get Raped, Truly

It's just that some who are familiar with the prison system, are taking it as a forgone conclusion that someone behind those bars is going to mess him up in some way. If the choice in reaction to this knowledge is between feeling sympathy for Shanley and wishing him a merry hell, many choose the latter.

When I was a little kid, "sexual abuse" of minors was not reported in those terms in the courts or in the newspapers. At least not where I lived.

It was always recorded and reported as "contributing to the delinquency of a minor."

In my old age, in this information age, I find that little euphamism to be far more accurate than anyone could have imagined when they coined it. Or maybe they did know, and just didn't want to say.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

35. Punishism. A disease of the mind.

You see the afflicted, among other places, partying (PARTYING!) outside prisons when executions are taking place.

You see them showing up whenever a discussion about proper punishment is taking place, shouting the tired old lines "WHAT ABOUT THE VICTIMS BLAH BLAH YOU WANT TO SET THEM FREE BLAH BLAH..."

You see them trying to pass unbelievable BS as fact (like "crime in Europe is worse than in the US" or "statistics show the death penalty is a deterrant")

You see them defending abominations like "three strikes" laws.

You see them wishing rape on some criminals when they get to prison.

You see them bashing countries that don't have the death penalty, saying they "deny justice to its citizens."

I'm sure there are other telltale signs I overlooked. Feel free to chime in.

[MissB]

9. Is that all?

I really was expecting a longer sentence.

[WLKjr]

10. I know, but the dude is in his 70's

I doubt he has much more to go.

[MissB]

11. Oh, I'm sure it is essentially a life time sentence

but it just seems so light on the years. :shrug:

[milmascara13]

12. MY pedophile priest is against Gay marriage !!

is yours ???

[MissB]

14. Eh? Your priest is a pedophile?

I would think he'd be a former priest, no? Have you had any luck with the authorities yet?

[LinuxInsurgent]

15. good one...

as long as its below the age of 18, it's ok.

[CoffeeCat]

16. The judge recognized the validity....

...of repressed memories.

As a person who also recalled childhood sexual abuse, decades after it happened--this verdict--was vindicating.

While I don't think that anyone should be convicted based on repressed memories alone--it is a positive sign that judges recognize that children do cope by forgetting.

Some of my recalled memories were validated by a witness to incidents that I had no recollection of until I was 34.

Repression does happen.

I feel that many survivors owe a debt of gratitude to this survivor who came forward and endured the rigors of a trial. He didn't have to do that. He also had to sit there, listening to Elizabeth Loftus, from the "False Memory Syndrome" brigade--which insist that childhood repression of sexual abuse never, ever happens under any circumstances. Elizabeth Loftus is a professional witness who makes untold amounts of money, claiming that children don't repress traumatic events--despite a mountain of contrary research.

I hope this verdict sends a message to other perpetrators out there.

[wicket]

17. As a sexual abuse survivor, all I can say is:

Thank-god. He deserves a lot more time though. My heart goes out to all of his victims and other victims in this sickening scandal.

[GOPBasher]

18. I know he's old but he should still get more. n/t

[LinuxInsurgent]

21. trust me...he's gonna get more

about 12 inches more...

The sentence is fine...he will live the rest of his short days getting ass-rammed in prison...what worse punishment? Reminds me of that Pulp Fiction line...

"You hear me, hillbillyboy?! We're gonna go medieval on your ass".

I suspect they are gonna go medieval on his ass.

Not that I love the idea of it...but...hey...this is reality in our prisons now. Child rapists are not liked by the prison population.

[GOPBasher]

24. True. n/t

[Lautremont]

27. I don't think they go around raping pedophiles particularly.

They just shiv them in the yard. What percentage in raping a wrinkly old dude?

I, by the way, think the people wishing rape on this guy are just a little creepy. "Eye for an eye and the whole world is blind," and all that. Rape as punishment is not the hallmark of a civilized society.

[LinuxInsurgent]

31. Prison's not civilized...

very few societies that I can think off the top of my head have "civilized" prisons..

The only interesting experiment I ever heard was during Sandinista Nicaragua...the "prisons" was enforced living in the countryside. You were given a plot to till...and were allowed to keep a part of the crop for yourself and your family, and the other was given to the national treasury, to be distributed evenly among the people. The only enforcement was that you had to be in living in the countryside...but it was an experiment in rehabilitation, rather than paralyzing imprisonment. I heard it worked...sadly...the Sandinistas lost power.

ANyway...if there is anything that will spare this man the ass rape..it's that he's old...and some of the prisoners might be repulsed of "doing it to an old man"...

but if they are not....

[Lautremont]

33. Didn't mean prisons were civilized,

just that wishing it on someone is not. (Not that you did.)

That Sandinista prison sounds very interesting, and makes me think of the similar forms of aboriginal justice meted out in the far north by those often characterized as "savages."

[sniffa]

19. shouLd we start a death pooL?

i say 8 months

[DUgosh]

20. They say

Only the good die young, I say he'll last long enough to make his payroll in 8 months.

[Massachusetts]

26. And Cardinal Law is enjoying the protection and trappings of the Vatican

:wtf:

[stillcool]

30. Does anyone else notice the correlation....

between these pedophile priests who denounce gay marriage, and our homophobic gay government? Sexual repression anyone?

[LinuxInsurgent]

32. well...

I thought that before...but then I read a study that showed that sexual abuse of children is no less smaller statistically in sexually-active adults.

But...who knows...maybe they should do experiments on religions that allow sex, and those that don't...and see what comes out.

[stillcool]

34. Yeah but, children who are...

abused tend to be the abusers. And surpressed sexuality starts at a very young age. Also, the child being abused is often blamed for expressing their own sexuality. Its a sick strata of society but these behaviors need to be examined sans all the emotion in order to end it.

[dsc]

37. If he had gotten caught with a medium amount of crack

he would have gotten over twice as long. Given his age, this sentence will likely be a death or close to death sentence. But it is quite unlikely he got much of an break for his age. He got, from what I have read, a fairly middle of the road to high sentence for what he got convicted of (abusing one boy). I think that is a testament to our screwed up priorities.

[msmcghee]

39. The headline at the link . .

. . doesn't say "Breaking!".

Even if it did at first it won't be breaking news after a few minutes.

If you use "Breaking" in a LBN headline why not put the date and time next to it so we know it's not still "Breaking" a day or two later.

Just a pet peave.