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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 07:55 AM
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Russia, Iran To Discuss International And Regional Security
http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?prd_id=160&msg_id=5421851&startrow=1&date=2005-02-17&do_alert=0


MOSCOW, February 17 (RIA Novosti) - Secretary of the Russian Security Council Igor Ivanov and Secretary of the Supreme National Security Council of Iran Hasan Rowhani will discuss outstanding issues of international and regional security and a wide range of bilateral questions in the Kremlin today. The meeting will be held behind closed doors, repots the press service of the Russian Security Council.

Iranian diplomatic sources say that Mr. Rowhani will use the visit to discuss the Iranian nuclear programs, the promotion of relations in the peaceful uses of nuclear power, and new American threats to Iran with Igor Ivanov and other ranking officials of Russia. snip

One of the highlights of the talks will be the signing of documents on the terms of Russian nuclear fuel deliveries to Bushehr and subsequent utilization of fuel wastes, which are to be signed in Tehran in late February.

"The parties may also discuss the recent US threats to Iran and exchange opinions on this issue," said the source. Other possible issues on the agenda are the situation in Afghanistan and Iraq, Russia-Iran military-technical cooperation, and the status of the Caspian Sea.

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:03 AM
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1. This next escalation is shaping up to be a big 'un, huh?
:scared:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:05 AM
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2. Unlike Iraq, Iran has allies.
Unlike Iraq, bush won't be able to threaten & bribe any feeble little "coalition" against Iran.

The US sure is THREATENING a lot of nations, even INVADING and OCCUPYING nations that had NOT THREATENED anyone. It's so way beyond time the US learns what happens to nations that go around THREATENING others.

Let's not wait so long this time, ok world?

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LinuxInsurgent Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:22 AM
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3. Iran
went to tell his story to the local bodyguard-for-a-price...

Russia: "Don't you worry Iran...we got your back".

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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:22 AM
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4. Okay
And Russia wants to arm Syria as well, correct? I just wonder what China plans to do as they were actually named in PNAC.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:30 AM
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5. China and Russia are engaged in mutual military maneuvers
They have agreed to a military partnership and are actively working their military into one cohesive unit. The US is not really the biggest dog on the block, just thinks it is.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:39 AM
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6. Wow!
Thanks for telling me that. I'm trying to prepare for what appears to be happening. I wish our media did a better job of informing us. IMO, this sort of thing warrants more attention than Michael Jackson and Kobe Bryant.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:41 AM
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7. Russia Defies U.S. Pressure on International Arms Sales
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/02/10/armstrade.shtml

The head of Russia’s state arms exporting firm Rosoboronexport has said that Moscow will not restrict sales of other weapons to countries that are out of favor with the United States.

The Associated Press news agency quoted Sergei Chemezov, the head of Rosoboronexport, as saying that Moscow will only sign a deal with the United States to tighten control over portable anti-aircraft missiles.

Russian officials have said the deal will be signed by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov and U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice during the Feb. 24 summit between presidents Vladimir Putin and George W. Bush in Bratislava, the Slovak capital.

Chemezov said that his company was strictly observing international law while selling weapons abroad, but warned that it wouldn’t obey U.S. recommendations.

“If the United States makes its own decisions, it has no effect on us: we proceed from international law,” he said at a news conference.

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Blue to the bone Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:51 AM
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9. And the chimp looked into his eyes and saw his soul.....
.....yeah, right. Idiot.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:49 AM
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8. This may not be "a good thing" but at least Russia's involvement
in security of Iran and arming Syria MAY just put the brakes on any near future Neo-Con invasion plans of either country.

We can hope, cant we? :shrug:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:53 AM
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10. Let us not forget the Russia/Iran Sunburn Missile purchase...
~snip~
The Sunburn missile has never seen use in combat but has been extensively field-tested by the Russians which probably explains why its fearsome capabilities are not more widely recognized. The Russians have been known to leak, via double agents, incorrect technical data to the US Defense Intelligence Agency. Other cruise missiles <>have<> been used, of course, on several occasions, and with devastating results. During the Falklands War, French-made Exocet missiles, fired from Argentine fighters, sunk the HMS Sheffield and another ship. And, in 1987, during the Iran-Iraq war, the USS Stark was nearly cut in half by a pair of Exocets while on patrol in the Persian Gulf. On that occasion US Aegis radar picked up the incoming Iraqi fighter (a French-made Mirage), and tracked its approach to within 50 miles. The radar also “saw” the Iraqi plane turn about and return to its base. But radar never detected the pilot launch his weapons. The sea-skimming Exocets came smoking in under radar and were only sighted by human eyes moments before they ripped into the Stark, crippling the ship and killing 37 US sailors.

Not only is the Sunburn much larger and faster, it has far greater range and a superior guidance system. Those who have witnessed its performance trials invariably come away stunned. According to one report, when the Iranian Defense Minister Ali Shamkhani visited Moscow in October 2001 he requested a test firing of the Sunburn, which the Russians were only too happy to arrange. So impressed was Ali Shamkhani that he placed an initial order for six of the missiles.

The Sunburn can deliver a 200-kiloton nuclear payload, or: a 750-pound conventional warhead, within a range of 100 miles, more than twice the range of the Exocet. The Sunburn combines a Mach 2.1 speed (two times the speed of sound) with a flight pattern that hugs the deck and includes “violent end maneuvers” to elude enemy defenses. The missile was specifically designed to defeat the US Aegis radar defense system. Should a US Navy Phalanx point defense somehow manage to detect an incoming Sunburn missile, the system has only seconds to calculate a fire solution –– not enough time to take out the intruding missile. The US Phalanx defense employs a six-barreled gun that fires 3,000 depleted-uranium rounds a minute, but the gun must have precise coordinates to destroy an intruder “just in time.”

The Sunburn’s combined supersonic speed and payload size produce tremendous kinetic energy on impact, with devastating consequences for ship and crew. A single one of these missiles can sink a large warship, yet costs considerably less than a fighter jet. Although the Navy has been phasing out the older Phalanx defense system, its replacement, known as the Rolling Action Missile (RAM) has never been tested against the weapon it seems destined to one day face in combat.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:26 AM
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11. I bet *bush never saw THIS while gazing into Pootie-Poot's eyes
I'm sorry, but this is just too inevitable- a moran could have figured out it was coming.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:41 AM
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13. Unfortunately, Bush doesn't quite measure up
to the status of a moron.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:37 AM
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12. So, Iraq now has an elected government
that's aligned with Iran. Iran and Syria are forging mutual security ties with each other, and Iran and Russia are working on bilateral cooperation.

That's some pretty impressive work that Bush has managed to accomplish in the Middle East, I must say.
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