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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:07 AM
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'06 elections pose trouble, Goss warns (re Latin America)
'06 elections pose trouble, Goss warns

Thu, Feb. 17, 2005
Miami Herald


WASHINGTON - CIA Director Porter Goss said Wednesday that a series of upcoming elections in countries such as Colombia, Haiti and Venezuela are a potential cause of instability in the region.

...

Goss said that Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez was consolidating his power by ''using technically legal tactics'' to weaken his opponents and was ''meddling in the region'' with support from Cuban leader Fidel Castro. Chávez, who survived a recall vote in August, is up for reelection in late 2006.

Goss' comments reiterate a chorus of complaints from top U.S. officials on Chávez, who has been pushing a self-proclaimed ''revolution'' for his country's poor and repeatedly attacking Washington as an ''imperialist'' power.

...

Election politics also could undermine the success Colombian President Alvaro Uribe is having in fighting drug trafficking and rebel groups, according to Goss, who did not elaborate. Elections are scheduled in Colombia in April 2006.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/10919747.htm

"technically legal tactics"?
elections cause instability?


:shrug:
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:10 AM
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1. Read "Confessions Of An Economic Hitman" By John Perkins
Surprised Goss would be so honest. It must mean that Chavez is being targeted once again.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:12 AM
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''meddling in the region''???
And we're not?
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:36 PM
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16. "meddling" in your own country's affairs
is usually called governing! We are the meddlers. Sheesh!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:12 AM
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2. My God, Chavez using ''using technically legal tactics'' to weaken his
opponents!

And teh Busheviks thought they and Putin would be the ONLY ONES to use the New Totalitarian Template of BushPutinism?

Don't they see that EVERYONE (except the Good German of Imperial Amerika, who are too busy with important stuff like Michael Jackson) sees what BushPutinism is and that MANY will follow it's tenets because the International Rule of Law is simply meaningless now.

The BushPutinists of Amerika are just jealous. Perhaps they think they deserve "royalty payments" when people use BushPutinist tactics in other countries.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:12 AM
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3. The Irony of the Bushies will never die.
:crazy:
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:24 AM
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9. He uses 'technically legal' tactics. We use blatantly illegal ones.
We mastermind an illegal coup, fund strikes and recall votes, and harbor suspected murderers who flee to escape prosecution. And we decry Chavez for using 'technically legal' tactics?
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:13 AM
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4. did I miss that in the articles fervor to tie Castro to these leader..that
they were democratically elected.

Elections are a solution in the SoTU, but a practical problem for the Oligarchs.

PORTER GOSS PORTER GOSS PORTER GOSS was a political appointment.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:14 AM
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5. Why Is It So Tough For People To Understand?
REAL Democracy, where people's votes actually count, MUST be avoided at all costs. At least until all the brown people of the world learn how to vote in the best interests of American Republicans.


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:19 AM
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6. AND REMEMBER...
EVERY DEATH CREATES NEW ENEMIES
MORE TERRORISTS
MORE DANGER
MORE DEATH
AND REMEMBER...
HE IS JUST GETTING STARTED...
BUSH'S PLAN FOR PEACE
IS THE PEACE OF THE COMMON GRAVE

http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html



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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:02 AM
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7. And Mexico too:
"LACANDON JUNGLE, CHIAPAS, MEXICO: Word has been sent from Washington: Mexico’s leading presidential candidate must be stopped, at all costs, from mounting his candidacy.

A new kind of coup d’etat has been hatched to strip Mexico City’s activist governor Andrés Manuel López Obrador – the country’s most popular political leader according to all national public opinion polls – of his right to run for president in the July 2006 elections.

This attempted coup became official policy the week that Condoleeza Rice took the helm of the U.S. State Department last month, and Washington’s reliable puppets in two of Mexico’s national political parties immediately jumped to implement the master’s orders.

López Obrador’s opponents – domestic and foreign – fear that the leader of Mexico’s electoral left wing will be unstoppable at the ballot box sixteen months from now. And so forces accustomed to stealing and fixing elections for 75 years in this country have come to a last resort: A dirty plot to remove his name from the ballot."

Much more:
http://www.narconews.com/Issue35/article1173.html


It is very interesting that the dirty imperialist mentions Haiti and Colombia. Is he worried that US might not be able to fix those places, and democracy and left might win even in Haiti and Colombia?
Are they so weak that they can fix elections only on home soil? Iraq is certainly testifying to that...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:18 AM
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8. What a bunch of Orwellian horseshit.,
Bushites use "technically illegal tactics" to consolidate power.
Does that count? What this fuckwit is really saying is that he
HOPES that we can destabilize things in Latin America because things
are not going our way down there. :puke:
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:26 AM
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10. Remember, its out of the Miami Herald - Otto Reich's propaganda outlet
Pure disinfo "news".






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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:37 AM
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11. "Venezuela, OUT of South America!"
It's time for this democracy to stop interfering in American interests.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:57 AM
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12. Wow, all the quotation marks...
Why not quotation marks when Bush claims to support "democracy" and fights a "war against terror?"
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:02 AM
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13. Our new "Intelligence Czar" is well equipped to deal with Latin America.
Look at Negroponte's background....
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LinuxInsurgent Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:15 AM
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14. Porter Goss...shut the F%#$ UP!
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 11:18 AM by LinuxInsurgent
"using technically legal methods"

At least he does that...you guys just make your own law as you go along...pot calling the kettle black...hell...beyond that...how can a pot that is worse than the kettle be calling the kettle anything...that just smacks of having huge, unabashed balls.

go back to doing what you do best...Stalinist purges in the CIA

You damn hack....don't you get it! NOBODY believes you!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:34 PM
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15. Oh, yes, let's spread democracy to the world.
And criticize it everywhere it seems about to work.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:51 PM
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17. AP: Venezuela Economy Up 17.3 Percent in 2004
"The accumulated growth in 2004 was 17.3 percent, which constitutes the highest level since the Central Bank began calculating this indicator," the bank announced in a statement.

Venezuela's economy, which is highly dependent on oil production and exports, contracted by 9.2 percent in 2003, largely due to a two-month strike that failed to oust President Hugo Chavez.

Oil accounts for around half of the country's fiscal revenue, 80 percent of exports, and one-third of overall economic activity.

Construction posted the highest growth, at 31.8 percent during 2004, followed by the manufacturing sector, which grew by 25.7 percent.

http://www.forbes.com/business/energy/feeds/ap/2005/02/16/ap1831889.html
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:59 PM
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18. Well, I guess we'll just have to invade them and save them from
themselves, won't we? Starting with VZ, of course.

Nice to see Goss stepping up to the role he was expected to fill. I guess.

:puke:
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:00 PM
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19. "Using Technically Legal Tactics"?
Gosh is he sure he's not talking about the Bush Administration? I swear, since day 1, every time they say a bad word about another country it sounds like they are talking into a mirror.

Jay
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:04 PM
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20. what's Goss driving at?
if the elections in Latin America are such a threat, what's Congress supposed to do about them? Send Goss back down there and relive the good old days of CIA backed coups and assasinations?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:17 PM
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22. Good old days - Haiti February 2004


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lephty Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:16 PM
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21. It's not about democracy
never has been. It's about CAPITALISM. Substitute every word 'democracy' with 'capitalism' and you'd get the current reality.
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