Chavez has video of a CIA instructing coupsters in surveillance techniques

[DuctapeFatwa]

President Hugo Chavez Frias has revealed that his government is in the possession of a secretly recorded video of a US CIA officer giving instruction to would-be Venezuelan coupsters on surveillance techniques ... evidence that the CIA remains involved in clandestine activity (i.e. espionage) in Venezuela even after the US-backed coup attempt in April 2002. He also says he has clear and certain evidence of US involvement before and during the coup d'etat ... "some day these pieces of evidence will be released to the public."

Chavez Frias says the CIA's surveillance techniques training couldn;t have been very good since his security services were able to film the CIA officer "in action!"

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=11090

headline shortened from
Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez Frias says he has secretly-recorded video of a CIA officer instructing would-be coupsters in surveillance techniques

[MetaTrope]

1. If there really is a videotape

Why doesn't Chavez release it to the media? It would get airplay everywhere (except the U.S.), and would certainly strengthen his case. But like Saddam, who could have reamed Reagan and Bush I (and the current junta) immeasurably by sending around details of his arms deals with the U.S., Chavez is just going to play the gentleman and sit on the evidence?

[dmartin29]

5. Likely would

reveal too much about those who video taped. Not good to compromise your informers. Lesson learned from my extensive studies of spy TV shows ad novels, but seems reasonable as well.

[aneerkoinos]

10. Diplomacy

not to escalate the conflict with the big bully unless no other alternatives left but to fight back hard (See Chavez possibly stopping oil to US).

Or: collect enough air tight evidence and present it publicly in UN General Assembly.

[alfredo]

30. It's called a bargaining chip.

Nothing is ever how it appears.

[donsu]

2. yes I posted this the other day and

not many DUers seemed interested.

think our disruptors have pointed many in the direction of talking endlessly about the dems running for pres. and not talking about much else.

[eablair3]

8. i'm very interested

i'm very interested in this. must have missed it before, but I don't get in here enough to see all the posts.

the fact that the CIA was involved is not a surprise at all. One had to know that they were involved. Too much circstantial evidence pointed to the CIA and other U.S. government backed entities working to once again undermine, subvert and overthrow another countty's democratically leader because they don't like him.

having evidence could be a big deal. I'd be VERY interested in seeing and hearing it.

Go Chavez!

[chasqui]

13. DUers are not really interested in this stuff

I have posted a few things regarding Chavez in the past. It gets bypassed for how amazingly wonderful that fascist Wesley Clark is.

[oasis]

22. (1)Wesley Clark is not a fascist. (2)Many at DU are interested in Chavez

and events in Venezuela. Information at DU gets read and passed along but there is not always a response to the author/poster.

U.S. foriegn policy will be bantied about by the UN in the coming months and the Chavez situation is sure to get more attention by the media.

[Ardee]

31. whoa there old hoss....

hyperbole so early in my day is more energizing than this cup of coffee.....

Clark may not be my candidate but Im certainly not yet ready to label him with epithets, I will note his complete inexperience and unreadiness for that office he seeks, but I will welcome his presence in a race that will shape the nature of the presidential campaign, its going to be an interesting convention, you betcha!

I believe that ,while there are those who have, of late, monopolized the topics with "my candidate is god, yours sucks" type of thread,one of the real joys of participating at DU is the very intense interest in global politics and events and the astute commentary of many here.

There have been some interesting debates re the attempted coup against Chavez, including, if one remembers correctly, an influx of single issue posters attempting to smear old Hugo as a commie stooge and painting a false picture of conditions within that nation....can you say clumsy CIA effort to sway public opinion....These posters all began with the phrase, "I have lived there and I know", or," Ive done business there for years and I know"....but it seemed that they didnt know Jack, or Hugo for that matter and ,getting an undesired reaction disappeared back to Langley.......

[9215]

44. Not trying to sidetrack this topic are you?

What do you guys do....get warmed up here at DU with one name then switch to another after you've been exposed?

:eyes:

[arikara]

20. I'm very interested in this too

I have a great admiration for Chavez and how he's out-foxed the chimpistas.

[0007]

26. I'm glad that you also reconize the fact

about the disruptors here at DU talking endlessly about the democratic candidates/

[Benhurst]

3. BushAmerica ...

spreading freedom and democracy wherever it goes. Yeah, sure.

[Bush_has_Parvo]

4. He should release all the evidence to the UN

at least the Bushies could be publicly sanctioned for their dabbling in South America.

[RainDog]

7. Yes, let the Bush administration be sanctioned by the UN

for interferring with a legally elected president of a country.

they could also do that here, regarding the 2000 election, and I wouldn't mind one bit.

[arikara]

21. They get sanctioned all the time

and it never does any good. Chavez probably knows this. He's doing it his way and so far its working for him.

[RainDog]

6. Greg Palast wrote about the coup BEFORE IT HAPPENED

in a 2002 article which I think was in The Guardian. If someone wants to go look for it, maybe it's still available w/o charge, or maybe it's on Palast's website.

Also, on April 11, 2002, the NYTimes ran an article about the coup which was full of lies. they had to retract this article in another story which they buried inside the paper....no front page mea culpa for that, although Jason Blair got the full treatment.

anyway, what happened back in 2002, for those who weren't on DU then, is that the coup plotters, all rich biz people who don't want Exxon to lose their oil monopoly, hence the CIA interference, took control of the presidential palace and "allowed" Chavez to leave and announced that Chavez had left willingly.

Before the coup, someone had told Chavez what was coming. He stationed 200 loyal troops in the basement of the palace, called the coup plotters, and told them this fact.

The coup plotters then left the building, in Elvis speak.

If anyone doubts CIA/USA interference, it should also be noted that Ari Fleischer quickly stepped up to support the coup for this administration, oil whores, the whole lot of them, and this was an embarrassment for the administration elsewhere, if not in media censored America.

I think this story was also listed by the Index on Censorship as one of the top censored stories for 2002.

CIA records are now part of the public record which show that they helped Pinochet, the murderous, in his coup to oust Allende, and Kissinger is implicated in contracting to hire the fascist in the military who killed the general...Rene?? who supported Allende.

Chavez is no angel, but he's trying to make his country more democratic and less of a plutocracy. Because of him, poor people carry around copies of their constitution.

But of course, America hates its own poor, so why should it support the cause of the poor in other countries?

[gmoney]

9. Right wing reaction...

As Noam Chomsky says, we are a terrorist nation afterall.

Our buddy Ann Coulter's new screed talks about 'The Great Pinochet"... what an ignorant bitch. (Notice how can't resist calling Clinton a Marxist, just in passing.) This is all supposed to be "evidence" about how the Times editor is a "traitor."

--------
"I am prepared -- just this once -- to name a traitor: Pinch Sulzberger, publisher of The New York Times.
(snip)
"By not opposing a military coup by the great Augusto Pinochet against a Chilean Marxist, Salvador Allende, the Times implied, the U.S. was party to a terrorist act similar to the 9/11 attack on America. This is how the Times describes Pinochet's 1973 coup: "A building -- a symbol of the nation -- collapsed in flames in an act of terror that would lead to the deaths of 3,000 people. It was Sept. 11."

"Allende was an avowed Marxist, who, like Clinton, got into office on a plurality vote. He instantly hosted a months-long visit from Castro, allowing Castro to distribute arms to Chilean leftists. He began destroying Chile's economy at a pace that makes Gray Davis look like a piker. No less an authority than Chou En-lai warned Allende that he was pursuing a program that was too extreme for his region.

"When General Pinochet staged his coup against a Marxist strongman, the U.S. did not stop him -- as if Latin American generals were incapable of doing coups on their own. And -- I quote -- "It was Sept. 11." Parsed to its essentials, the Times' position is: We deserved it."

http://tinyurl.com/o2gp

[RainDog]

11. again-

the remark-- on Orincus' blog?? that when the right wing starts accusing liberals, you can almost make bet that that's what they're up to rings true again.

Coulter called Katie Couric an Eva Braun, I believe?

Coulter is the whore of the fascists...maybe more like Mussolini's mistress...and when the fascists fall in our country, I can only hope they meet the same fates as those fascists in Europe.

Allende was no angel. That's not the point, tho.

Since when did America and Americans decide it was okay for us to kill or oust democratically elected leaders and install dictators and call that freedom??

actually, I know the answer to the question...we didn't get to decide, but the extra-govt powers that should not be decided when they removed Mossedegah and installed the Shah. It's been downhill since then.

I wonder how many people our secret agencies have killed in the name of democracy?

I'm watching The Sorrow and The Pity, a documentary made in the 60s about one French town and what happened to people there when the Nazis invaded and France's govt collaborated..some citizens did too, of course.

Interesting to see.

last night on Bill Moyers Now he talked about Lafayette persuading the King of France to send help which secured the American revolution.

In turn, our general, when he landed in France during WW2 said, "hello LaFayette." -- he was aware of the debt America owed to France in saving our butts from the Royalists.

Strange to say, but I wonder how it will fall this time...will France's interference in Bushies try at world dictator work, or will the world become collaborators?

[chasqui]

14. You are my hero

I grew up in Bolivia, with Hugo Banzer, Garcia Meza, etc. You know what goes on.

[AP]

34. I wrote about this before it happened. Beginning in the winter of 01,

NPR and the NYT started running stories that were criticial of Chavez. It was so obvious that the propaganda wheels were starting to spin.

In fact, if you want to see which media serves the Republican party, you could probably go back to Nov, Dec 01 and see who started laying down the groundwork to reduce American objections to the coup.

I wish I had a legal right to sue papers which did this. I would have incontrovertible evidence of the fact that they lie for the CIA.

[aneerkoinos]

36. Are you reading

Narconews? Al Giordano has been on NYT for years like a bloodhound, exposed and got couple of "reporters" sent home. He and his team cover also Venezuela.

[Judi Lynn]

37. To remind DU'er's of only some of the twisted truths

we read from the NY Times, as they dared us to imagine they were being truthful concerning Venezuela:

(snip) The New York Times’ Venezuela problem continued to snowball yesterday as its Caracas correspondent Francisco Toro resigned.

Toro acknowledged, in a letter to Times editor Patrick J. Lyons, “conflicts of interest concerns” regarding his participation in protest marches and his “lifestyle bound up with opposition activism.”

Toro’s obsessive anti-Chavez position in Venezuela was publicly known after last April’s coup when he began sending emails to Narco News and other journalists who he placed on his own mailing list attacking Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez. That the Times hired him in the first place was a violation of the Times’ own claims to objective and disinterested reporting. But regarding Venezuela, it was not the first. (snip)

(snip) * Also last April, New York Times reporter Juan Forero reported that President Chávez had “resigned” when, in fact, Chávez had been kidnapped at gunpoint. Forero did not source his knowingly false claim. Forero, on April 13, wrote a puff piece on dictator-for-a-day Pedro Carmona – installed by a military coup – as Carmona disbanded Congress, the Supreme Court, the Constitution and sent his shocktroops house to house in a round-up of political leaders in which sixty supporters of Chávez were assassinated. Later that day, after the Venezuelan masses took back their country block by block, Carmona fled the national palace and Chávez, the elected president, was restored to office. (snip)

(snip)* But Thompson’s reporting has also been laden with distortions. Last week she reported that there had been a “strike” by “bank workers” when, in fact, it was a lockout by bank owners supported only by the executives “union” – which represents only one percent of bank workers in the country. (That the bank lockout of its customers – conducted by 60 percent of bank branches over two days – constituted a theft of people’s access to their own money was not raised by Thompson’s article.) (snip/...)

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles/Giordana_NYT-Venezuela.htm

Absolutely appalling. We're supposed to imagine their problems began and ended with Jason Blair, right?

[sonias]

12. Chavez and his government better get this evidence out there now

This is the only way to keep the neo-cons from arranging for another coup attempt. The fact that Chavez was able to survive the 2002 coup attempt was in part because the US participation was obvious and had been exposed. Ari even had to backtrack on the bush regime's support for Democracy. Depends on the definition of "Democracy" according to bu$h reality. Chavez has Greg Palast that will do a story with evidence and he has connections with the people who made that documentary -The Revolution Will Not be Televised. He needs to expose them now to thwart their actions. These evil Fascists only like to work in the dark. They don't like being exposed to media coverage or transparent government. Stop them now before they arrange a coup again.

Get them Hugo.

Sonia

[Tatiana]

15. I think Chavez knows a lot.

Which is why they continue the assassination attempts against him. I think he needs a bit more assurance of international support before he will present any substancial info to the world (specifically the U.N.).

[ramblin_dave]

16. CIA planned to bring down Chavez' airplane en route to United Nations

This story is even bigger than the CIA surveillance story:

Venezuelan Military Intelligence says overwhelming evidence the CIA planned to bring down Chavez Frias' airplane en route to United Nations in New York

Details behind the sudden decision to cancel President Hugo Chavez Frias' next-week trip to Washington D.C. and New York (to deliver a speech to the United Nations) are being revealed by security services who say they have "overwhelming evidence" of a CIA-backed plan to "bring down" the Chavez Frias' airplane during the scheduled flight to the United States from Caracas. Sources in Venezuela's Military Intelligence Directorate (DIM) have told VHeadline.com that "presented with overwhelming evidence of Washington's planned attack on the Presidential flight, it was decided that the President's personal security was preeminent and that he should not go!"

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=11121

[LastDemInIdaho]

17. the US-backed coup attempt in April 2002?

Other than their local Pravda rag (Vheadline) I have not seen any credible source make such an unproven claim. Chaves is sounding and acting more like a tinpot dictator every day.

[The Zanti Regent]

18. Who is the REAL Dicatator?

Chavez who puts the welfare of the Masses before money?

OR

BUSH who stole the Presidency, killed Wellstone, Carnahan and others, tears up the Constitution, rigs elections and overthrows legitimately-elected governments?


WHO IS THE REAL TINPOT DICTATOR???????

[aneerkoinos]

19. Narconews, Guardian...

... and others have connected the dots, and the facts are clear. Do you consider corporate media credible source? Especially when it comes to Venezuela? Have you seen nothing, learned nothing?

[rman]

23. likewise, no evidence of Iran coup, Bay of Pigs, etc etc?

it's not like the CIA never does these things is it? it is the very rason d'etre for the CIA, it's what they do.

[RainDog]

24. Is the BBC a credible source for you? here's a link

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=155&row=1

or hear on audio

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/newsnight/newsid_1985000/1985670.stm

Warning to Venezuelan leader
BBC Newsnight
Monday, May 13, 2002

By Greg Palast

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez had advance warning from OPEC of last month's failed coup attempt against him. ()

Chavez said that he had tried to avert a coup by sending a note to President Bush, assuring him that Venezuela would never join any oil boycott. But coup leader Pedro Carmona moved on 12 April, the day after a general strike began, and four days after Iraq banned oil exports.

However, the OPEC warning allowed Mr Chavez to position loyal troops in secret passageways in the presidential palace.
However, Mr Chavez's attempts to protect his offices with tanks failed and he was seized. But after just 48 hours in power, the coup leader Carmona was forced to resign to save his life after massive demonstrations by Chavez' supporters.

--

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=136&row=1

Guardian UK
Wednesday, April 17, 2002

by Greg Palast

Here's what we read this week: On Friday, Hugo Chavez, the unpopular, dictatorial potentate of Venezuela, resigned. When confronted over his ordering the shooting of antigovernment protestors, he turned over the presidency to progressive, democratic forces, namely, the military and the chief of Venezuela's business council.

Two things about the story caught my eye: First, every one of these factoids is dead wrong. And second, newspapers throughout the ruling hemisphere, from the New York Times to the Independent to (wince) the Guardian, used almost identical words - "dictatorial", "unpopular", "resignation" - in their reports.

Let's begin with the faux "resignation" that allowed the Bush and Blair governments to fall over their own feet rushing towards recognition of the coup leaders. I had seen no statement of this alleged resignation, nor heard it, nor received any reliable witness report of it. I was fascinated. In January, I had broadcast on US radio that Chavez would face a coup by the end of April. But resign? That was not the Chavez style.

The resignation myth was the capstone of a year-long disinformation campaign against the populist former paratrooper who took office with 60% of the vote. The Bush White House is quoted as stating that Chavez's being elected by "a majority of voters" did not confer "legitimacy" on the Venezuelan government. The assertion was not unexpected from a US administration selected over the opposition of the majority of American voters.

What neither Bush nor the papers told you is that Chavez's real crime was to pass two laws through Venezuela's national assembly. The first ordered big plantation owners to turn over untilled land to the landless. The second nearly doubled, from roughly 16% to 30%, royalties paid for extracting Venezuela's oil. Venezuela was once the largest exporter of oil to the USA, bigger than Saudi Arabia. This explains Chavez's unpopularity - at least within that key constituency, the American petroleum industry.
----

Please follow the links and read the articles. I stated in an earlier post that these articles existed. Before denying what you don't want to believe, why didn't YOU search out the information for yourself?

Are the BBC and The Guardian good enough sources for you?

I'd also like to remind you that Palast is the reporter who broke much of the information about the illegal felon voter purge Katherine Harris and Jeb Bush instigated before the 2000 election to ensure Dubya would take Florida.

In addition, you know, right, that Theresa La Pore, the butterfly ballot queen of Palm Beach, was a former employee of Adnan Khasshogi, the Iran/Contra gun runner Reagan/Bush used, right? (That was reported in the Wall Street Journal back in 2000, btw.)

Face it. The American press has been horribly damaged ever since Reagan's "project truth" (you can read about that at the Consortium online) Robert Parry is a former Newsweek and Pultizer-nominated reporter who reported on much of the slime oozing from the Reagan administration.

Project Truth was/is the attempt by CIA, etc. to infiltrate the American press and lie to hide their secret programs designed to destablize other country's govts, and no doubt to hide much of what Bush is doing now.

When I saw, in real time, the report from the NYTimes, and as I've followed what happened in the American media and press leading up to the Iraq invasion, I realize America no longer has a free press which will serve as the guardian of truth for the American people against the abuses of power by people like Cheney, Bush, and the whole nasty junta.

Also, I'd recommend a few books. The Pinochet Files is a new book which draws upon previously classified documents now available because of the FOIA. This talks about America's involvement in that coup. Powell himself has called it one of America's less proud moments, or something like that.

Also, Lost History, by Robert Parry. You can get it from his site, Consortium online.

Also All the Shah's Men, which details the US/Brit overthrow of the democratically elected leader of Iran and the installation of the Shah. Also a new book, but based upon declassified files which also appeared a few years ago around the New Year in the NYTimes.

Do you think that all these sorts of activities are only in America's past? Do you realize that many of the same plotters from Iran/Contra and the Iraqgate time are again in power?

Also good to read: Old Nazis, New Right, and the Republican Party, and Christopher Hitchens' The Trial of Henry Kissinger.

I burns me when someone says.. but is it credible? without seeking out information for themselves. Why should others do the work for you to find out the truth?

[Judi Lynn]

25. Bless you, RainDog!

It burns me when someone says.. but is it credible? without seeking out information for themselves. Why should others do the work for you to find out the truth?"

Just takes one's breath away, doesn't it? Doesn't leave much to discuss with one who will not put out the effort to get informed.

[RainDog]

27. thanks for your posts on the other Chavez thread

concerning the attempted assassination via downing his plane.

have you seen this reported ANYWHERE in a U.S. media source?

have you seen this on any British source?

If this charge by Chavez is true or false, how will we know via any U.S. news source? who here will investigate such claims honestly? who will verfiy the claims?

This accusation by Chavez demands an investigation by Congress, simply based upon the precedent of events before this assassination claim.

The best thing we can do is write our representatives and demand an investigation.

[Judi Lynn]

38. Yep, you're right

You may recall reading that Americans turn to foreign press in overwhelming numbers to get the information our own media can't be bothered to cover.

THEN if we've got some spare time, we can read all about it in our own press decades later, when the government papers get declassified, as in the Kissinger documents.

Don't say they never tell us everything! We have to think in bigger time frames, if we live long enough.

[9215]

45. I also wanted to thank you Judi

for your posts of support on the other Chavez threads. He really strikes a cord here at DU. I've been following Venezuela with a keen interest. :toast:

[RainDog]

28. one more thing, lastdem

when reagan and bush sr were engaged in genocide in Central America, and when they had the CIA running cocaine into the U.S., reporters who covered this story were slammed by the mainstream media outlets, including Time and Newsweek.

However, with the release of govt documents in Central America since that time, it turns out that those people who reported these atrocities were telling the truth.

of course, Newsweek and Time never bothered to offer an apology or a retraction to, say, the reporter at the San Jose Mercury News whom they smeared.

Nor has Oliver North ever apologized for knowing of drug shipments to America while his bosses wife was telling everyone to "just say no."

The mainstream press has never bothered to inform the American people that Reagan's administration worked with Klaus Barbie, the butcher of Lyon, one of Hitler's henchmen, when Barbie was training a "new SS" to fight in Central America.

But all these things are true.

[chasqui]

29. Klaus Barbie was not in Central America at the time.

He was in Bolivia. He had been a 'National Security' advisor to the regime of Hugo Banzer Suarez, in Bolivia, and was living under the alias 'Klaus Altmann.' He was extradited to France in 1983 by the government of Henrnan Siles Suazo.
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Barbie

[RainDog]

35. I didn't say he was in Central America

I said he was training a "new SS" for use in Central America.

I'll go get the quote for this.

here's one-

this is from The Consortium. I'll go back again for the link

In 1980, four years after the coup, the Argentine military exported its terror tactics into neighboring Bolivia. There, Argentine intelligence operatives helped Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie and major drug lords mount a brutal putsch, known as the Cocaine Coup. The bloody operation turned Bolivia into the first modern drug state and expanded cocaine smuggling into the United States.

Videla's anything-goes anti-communism struck a responsive chord with the Reagan administration which came to power in 1981. President Reagan quickly reversed President Carter's condemnation of the Argentine junta's record on human rights. Reagan's U.N. Ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick even hosted the urbane Argentine generals at an elegant state dinner.

More substantively, Reagan authorized CIA collaboration with the Argentine intelligence service for training and arming the Nicaraguan contras. The contras were soon implicated in human rights atrocities and drug smuggling of their own. But the contras benefitted from the Reagan administration's "perception management" operation which portrayed them as "the moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers."

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Human_Rights/VidelaArgentinaTerror.html

..but my original post comes from Lost History, by Robert Parry.

[chasqui]

47. Yes

I was there when that bloody coup happened in Bolivia. I remember hearing machine guns going off in the city I was in at the time, Cochabamba, students running for cover inside our yard. Those were some really interesting times.
I have never, to this date, heard of Klaus Barbie having been involved in the coup of 1981. But if you go to this link:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/story40.html
You will find some stuff on the interaction between Klaus Barbie/Altmann, Hugo Banzer Suarez, Luis Garcia Meza, and Luis Arce Gomez. It is interesting to note that there was a close alliance between Roberto 'Techo de Paja' Suarez and Hugo Banzer Suarez. Having lived there I can say that the people from the area that Banzer is from are very tight with each other ... in other words, this was just s symptom of what I saw as a systemic involvement with narcotrafficking among a certain social circles - those involving wealthy ranch owners in the Bolivian east.
There was also a kidnapping of a close associate of Banzer's by the colombian mafias:
http://www.el-deber.net/20030905/santacruz_2.html
I hope you can read spanish. They nabbed him as he was dropping his kid, my classmate, off at school.

[9215]

46. For christ's sake!

Why quibble about his location. This guy's company Merex supplied drugs and guns to Reagan's Iran-Contra network. It is documented in the book "Whiteout" by Alexander Coburn. In addition he linked up with Unification Church narco-theocrat Rev. Moon just as the 80's cocaine boom hit the US.

The fucker is a CIA bought and sold ratline express rider.

[AP]

33. You need to read up on your Allende, and every other CIA

inteference with foreign countries who weren't willing to play American ball.

The patterns are all thtere.

Chavez may not be super liberal, but it says more about America that, 30 years ago, we overthrew socialists, and today we overthrow moderates (like Gore and Chavez).

[AP]

32. He's trying to get these facts out before they kill him. If he gets enough

out, maybe they won't be able to kill him.

It's sickening.

[Judi Lynn]

39. Seeing your post spelling it out

when I'd been thinking about this, with deep concern, is still startling.

I believe what you said in every sense. It's absolutely beyond redemption, at this point. There is no justification at any level for Bush's moves on Hugo Chavez. It's sheer evil.

[Freddie Stubbs]

40. So he must be releasing that tape soon

What is he waiting for?

[protect freedom impeach bush now]

41. Chavez Cancelled Trip to US Due to CIA Assassination Plot

Chavez Cancelled Trip to US Due to 'Overwhelming Evidence' of CIA Assassination Plot

"Details behind the sudden decision to cancel President Hugo Chavez Frias' next-week trip to Washington D.C. and New York (to deliver a speech to the United Nations) are being revealed by security services who say they have 'overwhelming evidence' of a CIA-backed plan to 'bring down' the Chavez Frias' airplane during the scheduled flight to the United States from Caracas. Sources in Venezuela's Military Intelligence Directorate (DIM) have told VHeadline.com that 'presented with overwhelming evidence of Washington's planned attack on the Presidential flight, it was decided that the President's personal security was preeminent and that he should not go!'"
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=11121

[Judi Lynn]

42. Some interesting aspects of Chavez' government

have made him unpopular with 2% of the population, a very OLD story in Latin America, wouldn't you say?

(snip) In this oil-rich and largely urban nation, gaping inequalities in land ownership have long been overlooked by the ruling elite. According to the country's National Land Institute, which oversees land distribution, 60 percent of the arable property belongs to 2 percent of its landowners, while hundreds of thousands of farmers scrape by on small subsistence plots.

Now, in a bid to reduce poverty and bolster agricultural production, Chávez is implementing land reforms that have drawn fierce resistance from landowners, business groups and opposition politicians.

By the end of this year, Chávez says, the government will have distributed 5 million acres of idle, state-owned land to as many as 100,000 families.

"Venezuela right now has the only serious government-administered land reform in Latin America," said Peter Rosset, co-director of the Institute for Food and Development Policy, a San Francisco-based think tank. "In the U.S., Chávez is often painted as a villain or crazy, but this land reform, small and incipient as it is, shows that he is much more on the side of the poor than other presidents in the region." (snip/...)

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-wolati0921,0,6597522.story?coll=ny-worldnews-headlines

[9215]

43. Standard MO in this business.

Witholding damning info is an "insurance policy" where the holder says: "You keep fucking with me and I will tell all......you leave me alone and I'll leave you alone".

That is what it looks like to me. Chavez, IMO, should hold the info for his own safety and fuck with the BFEE/CIA's head, keep his ace in the hole. The BFEE is going down anyway as they blatantly try to kill anyone they oppose.

Chavez is one , smart, tough brave hombre! Reminds me of Castro in that regard.

Venezuelans should be happy to have him. Only good people fight the BFEE.


Google Paul Wilcher and his tape of Poppy and October Surprise to see what happens to those who divulge too much too soon.