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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 01:09 PM
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Venezuelan supplies of crude oil to USA may be in jeopardy
Energy Minister Ramirez says, with direct reference to Carlos Andres Perez in the Dominican Republic, that Venezuela will not now allow its crude oil to be sold to countries that support terrorism ... the definition of "terrorism" being against the legitimate government of Venezuela.

Now that CAP has escaped to his luxury apartments in Manhattan, the logical question is being asked what follow-up action is intended this weekend if the White House refuses to deal with the former President of Venezuela under mutual anti-terrorism agreements. Some diplomats are speaking quietly about a probable imposition of an immediate oil embargo against the United States ... which could seriously interrupt supplies ... but official sources in Caracas have not been able to qualify the possibility and the Venezuelan Embassy in Georgetown, Washington D.C. has been closed after extensive flooding in the wake of Friday's hurricane alert.

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=11119

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Venezuelan supplies of crude oil to USA may be in jeopardy after corruption-convicted former President flees Dominican Republic bolt hole for safe haven in New York

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MariMayans Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 01:19 PM
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1. if we refuse or ask for evidence that he is a terrorist..
I guess Venezuela will just have to "liberate" us in order to continue it's "hot pursuit".
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 01:27 PM
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2. I wonder whether SmirkCo could attack Venezuela without risking
the Latinx vote.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 01:47 PM
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3. OOOOh!
If Venezuela cuts off oil to the U$A, things might get hairy.
The CIA trying to assasinate Chavez is terrorism.
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DeathvadeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 02:13 PM
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4. Preach on my brotha....
Chavez should turn that valve. With the backing of Russia and SA too all togeather. WAHAHAHAHAHAHA talk about control and being able to manipulate US...

I pitty the poor fools who drive them SUV's... I pitty the poor fools
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 02:54 PM
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5. I don't pity those assholes
they bought em now suffer, like they make the world suffer.
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:19 PM
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9. Right on
are things starting finally to unfold? Does Chavez have the backing of SA and Russia? Putin's gambit to realize in check mate in three moves, or just a hidden threat? In a few weeks US might find it alone in the world, with no oil...
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chasqui Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:51 PM
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10. Yes he does.
Chavez also has the backing of the real political power in the Andean Countries - the nativist parties.
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:02 PM
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11. And more than that
Lula, the new world leader, and the rest of OAS:
http://www.narconews.com/Issue26/article566.html

Plus the global opinion, if he decides or has no alternative but to confront US in a serious way (destroying Bushistas and US economy and global hegemony on the side if that's what it takes).

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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 10:21 PM
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13. haha I trust SA like I could throw 'em
those wiley bastards. Knowing them they'd give Chavez the ol' "we're right behid ya buddy!" The minute Venezuala turns off the pumps SA picks up the slack so they can continue to bath in US$$ and oppress their own nation.

Alliances or no, SA's loyal only to SA.

Julie

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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 02:58 AM
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14. Who (or what) to trust?
Not Saudi's, but their national interests. You don't think they feel now very threatened by USA, that they are deaf to what is going inside USA? If they come up with a good chance to deliver their own pre-emptive strike and put US on it's knees, why would they not take it? What CAN be trusted is SA's loyalty to SA, like you say.

Second, SA can't "pick up the slack". They are already pumping at their maximum capacity.
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LastDemInIdaho Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 09:48 PM
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12. Do you reall think it's just gashog owners that would suffer?
Do you think crashing the US economy and making the price of delivered goods out of the poors reach is a GOOD thing? I don't and I doubt very many others in America do either.

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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 03:03 AM
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15. I think it would be a good thing
but then, I don't live in US.

I must admit I'm positively surpised that so many on this board have such loyalty to humankind and hatred of Bushco fascism, that they are ready to take such horrible beating. I don't believe I would be that brave and unselfish.
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Samuraimad Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 02:57 PM
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6. QUICK, Some raise the price for gas!! n/t
.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 03:00 PM
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7. what is a "bolt hole"?
like a bunker?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 03:07 PM
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8. got it in one (n/t)
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 03:06 AM
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16. I thought
that Venezuela depended on the US as it's major buyer to support their oil industry.

So now which way does it all go, Cap'n Peachfuzz?
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:47 PM
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17. Chavez is a hardball player!
Nice work keeping this story going Ductapefatwa.

I'm worried about his safety though.
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