Ari Fleischer Tells E&P He Spoke to Gannon/Guckert's Boss

[truthpusher]

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Ari Fleischer Tells E&P He Spoke to Gannon/Guckert's Boss

By Joe Strupp

Published: February 17, 2005 4:45 PM ET

NEW YORK Former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer was so concerned about Talon News reporter James Guckert's potential ties to the Republican Party that he stopped calling on him at press briefings for about a week in 2003, Fleischer told E&P today.

"I found out that he worked for a GOP site, and I didn't think it was my place to call on him because he worked for something that was related to the party," Fleischer said in a phone interview. "He had the editor call me and made the case that they were not related to the Republican Party. He said they used the GOP name for marketing purposes only."

He said he resumed calling on Guckert, who used the alias Jeff Gannon, after Bobby Eberle, owner of both GOPUSA and Talon News, "assured me that they were not part of the Republican Party." Eberle is a Texas Republican activist and served as a delegate to the 2000 Republican National Convention.

Fleischer has not previously commented on the Gannon/Guckert affair.

"I don't think that party organizations should have people in that room acting as reporters," Fleischer said, explaining his initial concerns. "They are advocates, not reporters, and a line should be drawn." But, after speaking with Eberle and looking at Talon News, he was convinced that GOPUSA.com and Talon News were not official party sites.

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[arcos]

1. wow!

:wow:

[hector459]

91. Careful parsing of words by Ari: "no 'offical' party site."

Ari is smarter than Scotty but just as deceitful. Ari's story doesn't make sense because "Gannon" never received a hard press pass. something doesn't add up hear.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

2. Now you know why he quit

He probably saw something of this ilk coming.

[Carni]

36. That's what I thought a few days ago

And this sort of cinches it for me!

[Just Me]

50. But, if he didn't "approve" the press pass,...WHO DID?

Who approved the goshdamn pass????? WHO?????

[0007]

84. Probably junior or rover boy



[Corgigal]

3. OK, now we are suppose to buy Ari is ethical?

I call bull on this one to.

[LifeDuringWartime]

7. he obviously

doesnt want to be dragged into the fallout from this.

[HuckleB]

13. We know he's not ethical, but that gives this all the more power.

If even he had some issues with this, then...

[Lugnut]

20. You better believe it

I call BS on Mr Holier-Than-Thou Ari.

[Eloriel]

90. Ari had a specific job to do here, and this is what it was:

he (Ari) was convinced that GOPUSA.com and Talon News were not official party sites.

Trying to distance the W.H. operation from the Gannon operation.

Why is that important? IMO it leads directly back to Rove:

GANNON / ROVE / RATHER connection
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1603949#

[jdj]

106. Bingo, if they've called in Scary Ari the Spinmeister it means

they are freaking scared witless. McClellan can't handle this.

[Just Me]

39. No. But! EW! the "advocate" vs "reporter" statement was GREAT!!

:bounce:

Even freakin' Ari distinguishes between the two!!!!

[DBoon]

42. Only as far as being unethical would be a CLM

That's "Career Limiting Move"

His motive is based not on ehtics, but more on self-preservation. He saw this smelled so bad that:

1. It couldn't be kept hidden for long
2. Anyone associated with it would be tainted

[b...]

44. hmm, it's interesting to say the least

we've all been relying on E&P the past few weeks regarding gannongate, and i've thought them to be a pretty good source on other things.

the ari assurances that after he reviewed the site that they weren't party affiliated are not to be taken seriously, that's CYA, but the rest of it really starts to beg the question, who the hey let this guy in?

who gave him daily passes/hard passes?

[zann725]

67. '..reviewed the site and decided?' TRANSLATED: Shrub said "Call on Gannon

..OR else."

[Carni]

47. Not ethical... just didn't want HIS butt in a sling

I doubt McClellan brought egghead Gannon/Guckert in either (which is kind of what I think Fleisher is saying based on the way he words his remarks)

I also think the current "gay bar" rumor about McClellan is being floated by the WH so that Scotty will take the fall and not whoever REALLY placed Gannon into position (that IMO would be Karl Rove)

I think Fleisher got hip to whatever is going on in that mandated bush sex cabal administration and I think he knew it was time to cut bait (unless he wanted to hang around and take the fallout for being tied to a male prostitute)

Didn't Fleisher leave right before the Abu Gharib photo intrigue?
Or did he rsign just after?

The weirdness at Abu Gharib is another reason I think there are a lot of VERY strange things going on in this admin--When in our history have our troops ever been ordered to make prisoners do all these demeaning sexually oriented things?

JMO

[dqueue]

4. Great find...

Very interesting. Still does not explain how Guckert was in the press room BEFORE Talon News even existed... but, hey, McClellan can answer that one.

[ima_sinnic]

16. but that was during Fleischer's watch (n/t)

[joeybee12]

5. What a fucking liar! It's called CYA!

I'd forgotten what a reprehensible piece of shit Ari was.

[ewagner]

31. BINGO!

This lie doesn't hold water either....

Ari is into high ass-covering mode and it won't work..........

[Bluebear]

32. On the other hand maybe that's why Ari "resigned"

I can't stand him either but maybe he wouldn't play 'ball' with Bush's Bulldog and was asked to leave?

[MADem]

54. That's my take--and get a load of THIS old ARTICLE

...by Howie the Whore Kurtz on McClellan. I found this surfing and almost crapped--it is a verbal BJ!!!! http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A35616-2003Jul9¬Found=true

Rather unsurprising that Kurtz first pooh-poohed the whole JimmyJeff thing with Leslie Blitzer, and STILL keeps distance in his writing between McClellan and JimmyJeff. If you read this, though, with the latest information in mind, it's got some snarky elements to it!

My favorite part of this kissass article:Late last month, when the moment seemed to be at hand, reporters asked McClellan at a briefing if he had any personnel matters to reveal. "I might as well go ahead and announce it," he said. After a pregnant pause, he said he would be getting married in November.

But McClellan refused to identify his fiancee, at least on camera. She is Jill Martinez, a March of Dimes coordinator in Austin. They met at a party last year and have been keeping up a long-distance relationship. And that is about all McClellan will reveal.

Anything to reveal? Long-distance relationship? Yeah, right! Whatever, Scottie!!!

[Carni]

56. My vote is with your theory

Gannon's background put Fleisher in the position of being a sitting duck--like McClellan is now!

I cannot stand Ari Fleisher but I don't think he was the one who allowed Gannon in (just a hunch)

[joeybee12]

66. I don't think he allowed Gannon in, but he had to have known about it...

...this is not really an isolated case. They all tried to manipulate the press, and from day one it was obvious they would go to any lengths to do so. Ari knew. Scotty knew, too. Besides, Scotty is a big-time homo, so he when I say he knew Gannon, I mean he KNEW Gannon.

[Carni]

74. Of course Ari knew JG was a right winged plant

Most of those people in that room are probably RW shills

What I meant actually is that Fleisher didn't welcome in a gay prostitute (per say because initially I doubt he knew)

My guess is when he got wind of Gannon's background as a prostitute that is most likely the week he stopped calling on him at which point he was probably told call on him, or get out, and that is probably when he decided to resign (to save his own ass of course)

Maybe McClellan was the one that brought in Gannon... but I think it goes higher up than that.

[manly]

86. Homo Scotty?

Is there one shred of proof that Scotty is homosexual. Accusations such as this, without backup, are just as bad coming from us as coming from the Bushies. What's the story here?

[joeybee12]

93. Sorry that you consider calling someone gay offensive...

...why should it be? There have been rumors about him for a long time--he's been spotted in gay bars. He's gay, get over it.

[manly]

99. Homo Scotty?

Nowhere did I say or imply that saying someone was homosexual was offensive. That's your own hypersensitivity acting up. All I said was it would be good if there were some proof, as opposed to pure rumor.You said it yourself--"there have been rumors about him for a long time." That doesn't make it so.

[Vincardog]

6. Right and POX 'NEWS' isn't officially affiliated either. LOL

[Just Me]

41. It's really too bad that "the people" don't know that media's funding,...

,...is purely fascist-associated (eg advocates for corporatists and extremists - ANTI-DEMOCRACY associates).

Faux VIEWS should be fully exposed for what it is!!!! :mad:

[Vincardog]

100. The people do not want to know. They would rather pretend that

if they remain 'True Believers' somehow their the fantasy world view will be proved out. Look at the 'election' it proves that most of Amerikkka believes as they do. Truthfully they can not bring themselves to believe they are following the idiot in his death cult.
The Kool Aid drinkers are just as responsible as the Idiot Bush. They have the responsibility to be informed and not fall for the propaganda.

[goodhue]

8. okay, this is breaking news

Ari was concerned but Eberle convinced him it was no problem.

[blm]

9. And did Moon call him and deny being a Moonie?

.

[Cooley Hurd]

10. Is Ari REALLY that stupid????

"We use 'GOP' for marketing purposes, that's all..."

"Oh, okay..."

:DBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!:D

[Lone_Star_Dem]

22. No, he's not.

He's shrewd. He left before he would carry the brunt of this on his back. His is just the very beginning of many excuses we'll be hearing.

[Cooley Hurd]

23. He may be shrewd...

...but his explanation is pretty weak.x(

[Lone_Star_Dem]

34. Yes, it is.

However, he couldn't say he knew they were planning on manipulating the press room and ran like a scared rabbit. While that would be closer to the truth it would implicate him. :D

[grace0418]

25. So any one of us could've gone to him and said

"yes I know I'm from 'Democratic Underground' but that name is just for marketing purposes. We're just a news outlet, fair and balanced, I swear!" and he would've let us in?! Is that what I'm to understand from that statement?

What a load of SHIT!

[Time for change]

83. Are you implying that we're not fair and balanced? n/t

[Skip Intro]

11. sounds like an attempt at cya

[The_Casual_Observer]

12. No, GOPUSA.com sure sounds independent and legit to me too!

Why does everything these assholes say sound like a huge stretch of credibility?.

[BR_Parkway]

14. So, who actually DID ok him? Seems like everyone is running from that one

Scottie says he didn't, the folks who credential for Congress didn't do it. Could I just walk up to the White House, tell them I work for a news company and I want a day pass? It sure seems like nobody is going to tell me no. And yet they have how many $MILLIONS spent on protecting the President during the Inauguration. Looks like they wasted alot of money, apparently anyone who wanted to harm the President could just waltz into the News Room and wait.

Fleischer said he did not know much about Guckert and could not recall exactly when he started covering press briefings. He said he played no part in approving Guckert's requests for daily press credentials (which were handled by his office).

He added that he did not know at the time that Gannon had been using a false name and did not know if Scott McClellan, now press secretary but then Fleischer's aide, had known then either. "It came as a surprise to me, because I always knew him as Jeff Gannon," he said. Fleischer said he did not know of any other White House reporters using aliases.

He said he did not know the method the White House Press Office used to keep records of those, like Guckert, who received daily press passes. White House Press Office officials did not respond to several requests today for such information.

[seventythree]

43. he did not know the method

the WH Press Office uses????????? My God, who runs this show???? I recently (in another chat room) said the same thing you have said here, essentially -- this is dangerous for the President -- I guess a male prostitute terrorist could get that close depending on who he was sleeping with! The President and the country should be very upset about this.

[Just Me]

46. The million dollar question: WHO APPROVED HIS PASS?!?!?!? n/t

[tavalon]

97. I'm guessing you're being facetious

Of course they are lying about who can get a pass. JimmyJeff got a pass because the GOP powers that be wanted him to have a pass. He wasn't a security risk because he was one of their own.

[Old and In the Way]

15. Nice cover Ari.

Still can't tell the truth, even though you are no longer the offical WH spokesman.

[Cocoa]

17. his boss at the escort service?

Ari wanted a job?

[sandnsea]

18. Very weird cover up

Why are they covering for Gannon? They go out of their way to make Talon News legitimate. They go out of their way to try to turn him into a legitimate reporter.

I'd throw them all to the wolves, if I were managing the PR. Like they did with Kerik. Why aren't they doing this with Gannon?

There's more to this.

[Pirate Smile]

58. They are covering for the WH, not Gannon. If they could figure out a

way to blame the whole thing on Gannon/Guckert, they would but they can't wiggle there way out.

The issue is who, how and why Guckert got in the White House.

[sandnsea]

89. No, they want to keep Talon News

They can toss Gannon off easily and blame it on the error of an inexperienced press office aide. They're going overtime to not talk about Talon News being a fake news organization. I was just listening to Dana Milbank and he compared him to some other guy in the briefings, the difference being this guy had been in the press room since Nixon. Why do they keep trying to portray Gannon and/or Talon News as legitimate entities who are just idealogues? I notice it coming from Republicans, and then the WaPo. What is with that? Did the WaPo get info from this guy that they're trying to cover up? They want this story to end up being about a guy who wiggled through, oops, nothing more to see. Talon News stays, legitimate reporter moves in. And we've got another Foxnews online, except maybe the funding isn't quite on the up and up.

[Pirate Smile]

95. I think the real issue is how he got in, not Gannon himself or Talon News.

That is the issue they don't want to deal with right now. Nobody knows who OK'ed it. "Not me" says Scott. "Not me" says Ari. Hmmmm.

That is also the only issue that can damage them in the WH.

[sandnsea]

111. Sure, of course

I want to know how he got in there too. If Bobby Eberle is just nobody, how'd he get through to Ari? And Ari mentions Millions of Americans. Yesterday people said that Bruce and Bobby aren't related. So why'd Ari mention the two together? Does Bruce have more to do with this? Millions of Americans was organized during the 2000 recount. Who are these people and where does their money come from? Did they take the leap from online GOP group to fake news? Did they do it on their own, or did they get this suggestion from someone in the White House or a PR firm like Ketchum? That's the stuff I want to know.

[tennessee]

119. Got To Be Rove

NOTHING happens in this W.H without Rove's approval.

[Carni]

60. I agree NT

[checks-n-balances]

110. And if Gannon ever suffers physical harm, they'll pin it on the Democrats

He himself blamed Dems a few days ago for nasty phone messages, etc. that he supposedly received at home. I say that if they even happened at all, they were probably made by rethug operatives. Heck, we got blamed for heckling & harassment at campaign rallies, and turns out these were staged by GOP plants.

Nothing that these lowlifes do surprises me anymore.

[AlCzervik]

19. Wow...a whole week!!! Ari you rebel you

NEW YORK Former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer was so concerned about Talon News reporter James Guckert's potential ties to the Republican Party that he stopped calling on him at press briefings for about a week in 2003, Fleischer told E&P today.

[spotbird]

21. A distinction without a difference.

he was convinced that GOPUSA.com and Talon News were not official party sites.

Ari called on Guckert once he was sure his organization was using GOP for only marketing purposes? That's the ethical standard we are applauding. My God the bar is lowered.

[hnsez]

24. DU THIS POLL ON GANNON

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6862172/#survey

[Califooyah Operative]

98. Done - it's also a poll on Dean. nt

Are you interested in...
More on Howard Dean * 3897 responses


I want to know more
74%

Skip it
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A teacher's lessons included bomb making * 3755 responses


I want to know more
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Reality TV phenomenon is here to stay * 3788 responses


I want to know more
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Who is Jeff Gannon? * 4916 responses


I want to know more
92%

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Terry Schiavo's parents kick off protest and the debate over assisted suicide * 2238 responses


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23%

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77%

[Liberal Veteran]

26. Oh, good! That mean my new non-partisan organization...

...called DemsRule_RepubSux.com will be able to get a daily press pass to the WH and be called on?

Oh, and my organization is completely nonpartisan. I just use the name for marketing purposes!

[LiberalCompassionate]

85. Hehehehhe .......DemsRule_RepubSux.com

sounds non partisan to me. Start a news bureau; give it a catchy name, like "claw news", sounds like a sure bet for a WH pass. ;-)

[Emboldened Chimp]

27. It's been two years since he left and he's STILL shilling....

...for our asshole president.

[hippiechick]

28. "Stopped calling on him for a week"

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhh, how severe!!!!! :eyes:

[understandinglife]

29. That's a crock of flea manure Ari -- you can lie better than that. (nt)

BE THE BU$H OPPOSITION;24/7

[dave29]

30. Ari Fleischer in 2002

from a Dana Milbank Piece in the Washington Post:

Will Fleischer acknowledge the use of foils? "No, I will not," he says. "I call on all corners of the room." McCurry and Lockhart resorted to foils "because of all the scandal coverage. That's not the way of this administration." Still, Fleischer adds: "I'm not above using a foil. I just haven't had opportunity to do it yet."

http://www.daviesblog.blogspot.com

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35. We all know how Ari uses his words very carefully and draws

very thin lines : GOPUSA.com and Talon News were not official party sites.



He knew it still wasn't ethical...

[Nimrod]

37. Jesus, Gagukert has got something on these people

I'm dead serious. Maybe we should offer a reward for his client list, I have a feeling some very eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenteresting names would pop up on it.

[Demrock6]

55. You could be right.!!!

[Philosophy]

92. Larry Flynt should be all over this

Haven't heard from him in awhile.

[Kindigger]

112. Karl Schwarz...

Remember him? I think he came here after being at JK.com. He said there was stuff that would come out that would curl your hair...stuff about male prostitution, young boys, etc.

I recall the time he mentioned a Republican Men's Bible(Social) group? that met every week. I remember it because he mentioned Senator Grassley. If there's one Senator that I would guess was an old, closet gay(JMHO) it would be him.

Wish I had those posts. I'd saved all of them from JK.com, and lost them in a computer crash :-(

Need to watch Online Journal.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Media/021805Madsen/021805madsen.html

[DainBramaged]

38. Plausible deniability

He doesn't know who issued Gucknnon the press pass, or how the credentialing process works.

What a load of horseshit.

[applegrove]

40. Didn't work ARI - Now Mrs. Bush has to fire someone... like her dresser

[Binka]

51. No She Fired The Chef Her Dresser Just Cuts Up The Drapes

Think Maria in the Sound Of Music......."these drapes are good for PLAY CLOTHES."

[MADem]

57. Or Scarlett O'Hara

...as God is my witness, ah'll nevah be hungry agin!!!!!!!

[applegrove]

68. But she needs to fire someone else again - to blow some smoke on Mangate

Or perhaps she will have a 'cancer scare'. Yes - a 'cancer scare' is a more effective tool!

[NewInNewJ.]

52. I don't believe a word of truth comes out of

the mouths of the Bush administration. You know they all know that Eberle , from Texas,the home state of the President, is a major funderaiser for the GOP.

[flyarm]

45. louise salughter and cong westmoreland were just on ron regans show

on msnbc..slaughter was great ..but thsi westmoreland was full of horse manure..he kept calling gannon a reporter...and was saying too much is being made of this..and slaughter was all over westmoreland saying he was not a reporter and that gannon was in white house ..before...talon was a company..she went at him but that ass westmoreland did nothing but lie..i say..get on the phones and call westmorelands office and let him have it..i just called twice and told him he better find some truth and find out that everything he is saying is a bold faced lie!!

number is 202 225 3121..call westmoreland and let him have it..tell him if he is going to go on tv and stand up for gannon he better damn well know the facts...

fly

[flyarm]

49. msnbc is trying to discount blogs..they are demonizing us!!

they had windsofchange.net with robin burk..and

erik erickson ...redstate.org saying dems are partisan against bush and rove..synical..is what he said

yes msnbc is trying to demonize us!!

fly

[applegrove]

71. It is apples & oranges: blogs are just different.

[susu369]

70. Tell me more about Westmoreland -

Edit to remove text.

[NickB79]

48. Oh yeah, he "spoke" to Gannon's boss

While bound up in black leather and a ballgag. The safe word was banana, I hear.

[TalkingDog]

87. Safe words don't work with ballgags....

You need a body signal or a deep moan.....

My safe word used to be banana....it was very funny going to the grocery store.

[inspectorgadget]

53. Yep.. pretty much ridiculous -nt-

-nt-

[maxsolomon]

59. Wait... why is Ari even talking?

I though for sure he'd have got his own island in the South Pacific as payment for whoring for the BFEE for 3 years.

[cal04]

61. Another link about Gannon today, not sure if it's legit

1989: Bush matriarch says White House manwhores no big deal
The latest news on the Gannon/Guckert story is that the male prostitute was in the White House press room working for GOPUSA before they had even set up their "Talon News" front organization. The Gannon affair brings to mind the Craig Spence affair... Here are some articles from 1989, originally posted to the Internet on FreeRepublic.com back in the late 90s -- when that site was actually dedicated to investigating government corruption. Washington Times July 10, 1989:
First lady Barbara Bush said yesterday that the Secret Service investigation of a late night White House tour that reportedly included two male prostitutes has not raised security questions the first family is worried about.

Speaking publicly for the first time about the July 3, 1988, tour arranged by former Washington lobbyist Craig J. Spence, Mrs. Bush said she and her husband have no fears of a security breach.

http://www.libertythink.com/2005/02/1989-bush-matriarch-says-white-house_17.html

THE SEXUAL COMPROMISE AT THE CAPITAL DATA DUMP

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/sexandcapitol7,18,01.htm#article0

[coreystone]

62. Ari! CYA is not served on the menu here!...

The menu is about being honest. If there were approximately 30 days between the origins of "TALON" and Guckert, then you served the recipients of your employer well, at the time. NOW!! Don't tell me you would be willing to offer an open, "under oath" testimony of what you were allowed to say, or not say during your tenure as the President's Press Secretary......"at the time"! You may well have served the President, but, you did not serve the American people and this country.............WELL!

[ausiedownunderground]

63. We need to back Slaughter to "Slaughter"!

This Slaughter women sounds like the only Democrat with any "spine"! Why is Fleischer speaking out about this? He left the "The Bush Gang" ages ago! How long has Gannon been in the White House Press Corp?? The more we here down in Oz dig, the more and more it looks like a really "juicey" scandal that may well be out of Rove's control. He ain't going to like this. In fact a couple of my friends are suggesting that Rove may well not know himself who the White House "traitor" or "traitors" are and its driving him insane because he has "issues" to hide as well.
We need to back this Slaughter women to the hilt. She needs the "liberal" blogger machine for support and research and advice. I'm getting an inkling feeling that this is really "huge"!!!! and out of Rove's control!!!

[scratchtasia]

64. Ari speaks

I've been waiting to hear what he might say . . . that they're not "official" Republican sites is a poor excuse, but I didn't expect much better.

[morffin]

65. I almost feel bad for Gannon

not just because he's hung like a field mouse........ but I think the Rove/ Chenney gangsters are setting him up to take the fall in the Plame case. I think he was put in there to be the scapegoat.

[rodeodance]

69. "the last thing our nation needs.......is for the WH to concern themselves

with the private lives of reporters" Well, the WH sure concerns themselves with private lives of many people!!!!!!

....Even Guckert's ties to several sex Web sites and allegations that he worked as a male prostitute should not necessarily keep him or any other reporter out, Fleischer said. "The last thing our nation needs is for anyone in the White House to concern themselves with the private lives of reporters," he said. "What right does the White House have to decide who gets to be a reporter based on private lives?"........

[Callboy]

72. nope. this one has too many spokes

it wont end with G man. He's getting the main course now, but this is just the cold sandwich lunch., Dinner is simmering. wait a bit....

[ebayfool]

101. They need to be reminded that if he earned $1200/weekend, it's not ...

his private life. It's his professional life, that he freely posted & advertised in the biggest Yellow Pages in the world ... the internet! We didn't dig photos out of his family album in the sanctity of his home, we didn't forced $$$ on him to take pix of him peeing in the buff (that one needs to be cut from my retinas!) - we just looked at what he willingly opened to the public. If Monica (I've seen that name brought up as a come back to this) had advertised on the web w/pix like that, used a false name, was a tax dodger & smeared the repubs like jim/jeff has - their heads would have imploded.
Ari & the SS didn't have to dig in his private life, they just needed to check the oh-so-public facts!

They need to be reminded repeatedly, over & over - just like they do when they're on a sales call to the American public trying to pitch one of their twists on 'how to bend the public over a chair' programs!

Besides, they 'concern' themselves with the private lives of everyone else, what makes 'reporters' so special?

[Ellie of Amherst]

73. That's his story

and he's stickin' to it.

They'll all be backpedalling as fast as their little feet will carry them in the next few days.

[Skittles]

75. I don't believe Ari

he is a paid liar and a bush whore

[Walt Starr]

76. Ari Fleischer Tells E&P He Spoke to Gannon/Guckert's Boss

Ari Fleischer Tells E&P He Spoke to Gannon/Guckert's Boss

By Joe Strupp

Published: February 17, 2005 4:45 PM ET

NEW YORK Former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer was so concerned about Talon News reporter James Guckert's potential ties to the Republican Party that he stopped calling on him at press briefings for about a week in 2003, Fleischer told E&P today.

"I found out that he worked for a GOP site, and I didn't think it was my place to call on him because he worked for something that was related to the party," Fleischer said in a phone interview. "He had the editor call me and made the case that they were not related to the Republican Party. He said they used the GOP name for marketing purposes only."

He said he resumed calling on Guckert, who used the alias Jeff Gannon, after Bobby Eberle, owner of both GOPUSA and Talon News, "assured me that they were not part of the Republican Party." Eberle is a Texas Republican activist and served as a delegate to the 2000 Republican National Convention.

Fleischer has not previously commented on the Gannon/Guckert affair.

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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000807754

[goodhue]

77. dupe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1245835

[cthrumatrix]

78. well....Talon News wasn't even established when HE was asking questions

So WTF is Ari saying...he's Aunt Cleo and knew Talon would create "itself"?

[tsuki]

79. They have this saying in Florida, well maybe Tennessee, but

Florida says it too...oh, rats leaving the ship.

[KoKo]

80. My read of this "miserable, weasily" comment from Ari is that he thinks

this story will go NOWHERE. What stood out was when he said he was assured that Eberle's "GOPUSA" wasn't partisan. :wtf: GOP...USA?

He doesn't even try to cover his butt in this interview....Yet, we all were surprised when he "quit the Chimp." Back in those days we were innocent and thought Chimp was going down and that's why Ari "bailed."

So......reading this...it's interesting. They still don't get that this could get their own nuts in the vice... Wasn't he "gracious" though to give that interview to "Editor & Publisher."

I think even "I" could have done a better job than that...unless I knew that "they" would never be able to trace anything back to me... :eyes:

[The Backlash Cometh]

81. Wow. A whole week. I guess that proves that Ari wasn't partisan, huh?

[Straight Shooter]

102. It begs the question: HOW did Ari find out he worked for a GOP site?

And obviously Ari talked to Jiffy-Lube Jeff because he said, "He (Gannon) had the editor call me (Ari) and made the case that they were not related to the Republican party."

Excuse me, Ari, exactly why did you go to all this trouble for a chameleon prostitute?

[DoYouEverWonder]

82. A couple of day ago I posted a thread about Ari & Gannon

It is apparent that Ari let Gannon in and it seemed that Gannon was a great admirer of Ari. He was such a big admirer that it appears Gannon was part of setting up a website in honor of Ari Fleischer. They even had an Ari Fan Club. :puke:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1595086

Unfortunately this page has been altered since Monday. Originally under the picture under the birthday cake, it said Jeff Gannon - Talon News. They have since then removed that bit of incriminating text.



Jeff Gannon - Talon News

[EFerrari]

109. Good catch. Sometimes DU just amazes me. n/t

[NNN0LHI]

88. Sorry Ari. Its too late. You are going down with the rest very soon

Get the best legal team you can afford. You are going to need them.

Don

[0rganism]

94. Wow, Ari refrained on picking Gannon for a WHOLE WEEK? What restraint!

Ari Fleischer is an artist. Even now, he has that gift of applying rich decorative sugary coatings to piles of crap and serving them as a main course. And the editor really had to work to get him "convinced" of GOPUSA's impartiality, eh?

The funny thing is, the way he phrases it, it almost comes off as believable. The way the MSM reports on his crap, you'd think Talon news had 'em all hoodwinked.

Ari: "Are you guys at Talon with the Republican Party?"
Bob: "Naw, we're not Republicans. That's just marketing." *nudge nudge, wink wink*
Ari: "Well okay then."

[retread]

96. He lied every time he opened his mouth when he was Press Secretary.

Why should anyone believe the dirtbag now??

[gordianot]

103. Ari is not a Republican himself?

He must be the only non partisan press secretary ever to darken the doors of the White House. He does not know who or who isn't a Republican operative stretches the imagination. I wonder if what he is really wondering was/is this guy a Government Agent?

[AgadorSparticus]

104. how tragically funny. the RATS are scurrying about. something

huge is coming....

[morffin]

105. I photographed Ari

At Middlebury College a few months after 9-11 ( he is an alum ) He told the same old BS story about the Presidents plane being threatened on 9-11..explaining why W ran and hid.

That story had been exposed as lie weeks before the speech Ari gave at the college chapel.
Still, Ari told it with a straight face to a standing room only crowd.

This guy cant even tell the truth in a chapel.

[roguevalley]

107. here's a bartcop comment about guckert:

If you like Bush (no pun intended) you can be a male prositutute
with pictures of yourself naked on the Intenet and still keep your job.

This may be a dumb question, but isn't prositution illegal in Washington DC? Could "Jeff Gannon" sell cocaine online and still get his White House pass?

[morffin]

108. speaking of BartCop

is the picture of bush hugging gannon for real?

[cunningb]

113. Question about Gannon.Guckert- and extortion

Can anyone tell me what he meant with the "wedding Card" question to Mc Clellan could he be extorting scotty ?


wh press
March 10 2004
“Go ahead, Jeff.”

Gannon: “Thank you. First of all, I hope the grand jury didn’t force you to turn over the wedding card I sent to you and your wife. (Laughter.) Do you see any hypocrisy in the controversy about the President’s mention of 9/11 in his ads, when Democratic icon Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s campaign issued this button, that says, ‘Remember Pearl Harbor’? I have a visual aid for folks watching at home.”

McClellan: “You’re pointing out some historical facts. Obviously, Pearl Harbor was a defining moment back in the period of World War II, and Franklin Delano Roosevelt was strongly committed to winning World War II and talked about it frequently.”

[MsMagnificent]

114. A WHOLE WEEK?!

Oh my! Such PUNISHMENT!

And something named GOPUSA were NOT related to the Republican Party!?

Dear God these guys are so foolish and pathetic it's downright laughable.

[midnight armadillo]

115. Ari speaks with a forked tongue.

I don't believe a word he says about anything.

[LeftHander]

116. So Talon news was created....

Because GOPUSA was too Republican sounding.

Same guy. Same news, different name.

Glad I fell off the turnip truck yesterday...

[DoYouEverWonder]

117. Doesn't Ari's statement prove that they let Gannon in before

Talon News was created?

From the sounds of it, Gannon originally went in has a representative of GOPUSA. Then Ari got spooked and backed off for a week. Then Gannon comes back under a new name, TALON News and everything is all better again.

[Callboy]

118. it wasnt right so i waited a week and then did it again