'America would back Israel attack on Iran'

[nolabels]

(file this under posturing)

'America would back Israel attack on Iran'
By Francis Harris in Washington
(Filed: 18/02/2005)

President George W Bush added a new twist to the international tension over Iran's nuclear programme last night by pledging to support Israel if it tries to destroy the Islamic regime's capacity to make an atomic bomb.

Asked whether he would back Israel if it raided Teheran's nuclear facilities, Mr Bush first expressed cautious solidarity with European efforts, led by Britain, France and Germany, to negotiate with Iran.

But he quickly qualified himself, adding that all nations should be concerned about whether Iran could make nuclear weapons.

"Clearly, if I was the leader of Israel and I'd listened to some of the statements by the Iranian ayatollahs that regarded the security of my country, I'd be concerned about Iran having a nuclear weapon as well. And in that Israel is our ally, and in that we've made a very strong commitment to support Israel, we will support Israel if her security is threatened."
(snip)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/02/18/wiran18.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/02/18/ixnewstop.html

[liberal N proud]

1. Does Israel run our government?

Never mind, I think I already know the answer to that one.

[CityDem]

24. When did Lieberman become Sec. of Defense

Maybe this will help Lieberman in his quest for a seat in the Knesset.

[pinniped]

40. 'Jomentum' knows no boundaries.

.

[Behind the Aegis]

28. Actually,

I think it is the other way around.

[Norquist Nemesis]

2. Geez! Think you can say it any LOUDER, George?

Let's just ignite all that oil over there once and for all.

[renaissanceguy]

38. Why do we need to hide behind Israel?

Bush* obviously doesn't care about what the world thinks of us. We might as well go ahead and just bomb every country out there for no reason but domination.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14744291

[Coventina]

3. Oh great...shades of WWI and Germany's "blank check"

wonderful

:eyes:

[uppityperson]

4. The "Aw F*" post for today

Of course he will and we all know this. But it's the saying it out loud that scares me as it seems one step closer.

[ixion]

5. Israel and the US are the biggest security threats in the mideast

and, sadly, probably in the world. :-( :cry:

[Coastie for Truth]

23. I would give that award to

Carlyle Group, ExxonMobil, TexacoChevron, Royal Dutch Shell Group, PhillipsConoco, and James Addison Baker III-- and to all of our suburban soccer moms in Hummers.

After 9/11 I sold my SUV and went back to Japanese Toyota Corollas and then Priuses.

[calimary]

36. BTW, an article in a recent "Glamour" magazine about men and sex

featured the question and answer format. One of the questions was something about "what's with the size thing?" The answer - published nationwide in "Glamour" magazine included the note about why many women see a guy driving a Hummer and immediately think - "someone's OVERCOMPENSATING..."

Wonder how fast Hummer sales would fall off if that became an ever-more-public part of the zeitgeist?

[lovuian]

6. I thought Congress was the one who had a say in this???

But its obvious that this is getting set up for Iran to be bombed!!!

[LinuxInsurgent]

27. what Congress...

you mean the body of partisan hacks, akin to the politburo in Soviet times...that's no congress.

With respect to war...Congress has been derelict in its duty since World War II...not a single DECLARED war since.

[mountainvue]

7. Okay, so we've got the "where" and the "how"

now we just need to know when?

[Jersey Ginny]

19. Ask nonGannon

He's had the inside scoop on the "when" with Iraq. He'll know!

[spunky]

8. Well, he kind of has too, or else he'd have to admit he's

a complete hypocrit. He kind of has to support anyone who takes any military action (no matter how unneccesary) in the name of "national security".

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

[fob]

31. Doesn't that mean he's also given the green light to Iran to go ahead

and bush*doctrinize Israel with a "preemptive" strike?

[spunky]

42. Hey, I never said the man made any sense. lol. n/t

[fob]

43. touche'

[Dhalgren]

9. I think Israel should remember how the

elder Bush had said almost the same thing about Saddam attacking Kuwait - then he 180ed on their asses. I don't think the Emperor thinks very much; fortunately, he doesn't appear to HAVE to...

[beyurslf]

10. Why don't we just declare war now and stop all this silly talking...

just makes us look weak!

[AFSCME girl]

18. No kidding...cut to the chase already....

we all know that's where * is heading. :grr:

[ewagner]

11. Dangerous Green Light

given to Sharon.........

How will the rest of the Arab world percieve this?

How will our enemies react? Will they now percieve the need for a "pre-emptive" strike?

Will this encourage others to rush their Nuclear development programs to prevent an attack?

The chimp hasn't thought this through very well........

[calimary]

12. How do you expect them to react?

This just kicks it all up another notch. Who does bush think he is, Emeril? He's playing with fire and just doesn't even know or care. I mean, yes, I can understand the tensions Israel must feel. But there ARE ways to speak of this in public without throwing a tanker of gasoline on a fire, for heaven's sakes.

[nolabels]

14. Condi speech patterns most closely resemble the * administrations

Brash and blunt without much foresight, the antithesis of that old Colin dude.
I would fear for my life, but I got money on them tripping up along the way :P

[calimary]

34. Yeah, they're two peas in a pod, aren't they? bush and Contradicta.

Sittin' in a tree...

Oh - er - where was I?

It'a as though they've just GOT to prove whose dick is bigger. GAWD but I hate this sibling rivalry stuff. And for bush it's an oedipus complex on top of everything.

BTW, I, too, am on the alert for their tripping themselves up along the way. I'm betting something in the "Jeff Monica Gannon" scandal might do it. All the ingredients are certainly there. And nothing seems to succeed with the lizard brain of the average American consumer like a sex scandal.

[DELUSIONAL]

13. US & Israel -- terrorist partners

In the name of fighting terror both the US and Israel have probably killed more people -- and a good number of those killed have been innocents -- babies, children and just ordinary citizens just going about their lives.

With each new attack -- more terrorists are created.

It was claimed that Iraq was a breeding ground for terrorists -- and we now know that was a lie. BUT it is now true -- seems like bushie is making his dearest fantasies come true.

So next attack Iran -- then UNITE the nation behind their leaders AND have China & Russia pissed off at the US.

Ah gee then perhaps Miz Con-them-all Rice will get to make use of her "old" Russia degree. I think perhaps her Professors forgot to tell her that most of what we learn in college is out of date in the real world (except for a few degrees -- history & English etc).

The old cold war -- Iron curtain & the "good" USA is long gone.

This is like watching a really old movie -- and we see the actors being given choices -- and they ALWAYS make the wrong choice. The choices these idiots are making are not for the good of the world or the good of humankind -- but rather for a very small elite players in the background.

I am damned ashamed to be an American.

[Coastie for Truth]

25. The real terrorists are the Soccer Moms in Hummers

and the oil companies that provide them with the Ecstasy (gasoline) fix. We are in the mess we are in - not because of Israel but as Pogo said "I have seen the enemy - and it is us."

Our heroin like addiction to imported oil. We import 60% of our oil -- we import 30% of our oil from the Middle East. And drilling in ANWR or off of Santa Barbara or off of Tampa wont change it.

And when we pay $50/bbl - not one penny of that goes to the Arab proletariat or the Palestinian proletariat -- it goes to the super rich friends of Bush --- to throw in the faces of the Arab proletariat and the Palestinian proletariat.

[LinuxInsurgent]

29. that's certainly part of it...

but there are "non-resource" reasons for our intervention as well..and a lot are ideological (neoconservatived, religious "armaggedon-seekers", etc)

I fear there's little we can do on the domestic side...they are firmly in control....Iraq needs to win this resistance war...and Iran needs to stand firm, if we ever see Israel and the U.S. discredited...(and by extension, the proponents of Likudite/neoconservative/Christian war).

I know some of you may abhor that I'm "rooting" for the "enemy"...but I cannot see what other morally-consistent stance to adopt...I abhor American empire...and don't seem to see its downfall within domestic politcs...and I feel what we are doing to the world is horrendous. I side with those that are innocent and have the moral high ground...and right now...that is not us.

[Coastie for Truth]

39. Petroleum Is The Major Issue

The "Monopoly Rents" on crude do not go for the Arab or Palestinian proletariat. They go to support oppressive regimes - who in turn have to pay "protection" to those who would overthrow them. That "protection" is what funds the jihadists - and the terrorists. If it weren't for that "protection" democracy would flower in the region.

In my perverted value system - I would have no problem paying $50/bbl - or even $100/bbl - if the "monopoly rents" were going to build a better society for the Arab and Palestinian proletariat. (I can smugly say that because I drive a Prius).

Some appenders say that Israel wouldn't occupy the West Bank if we didn't provide them with military aid. Okay - what are the "monopoly rents" on crude -- "military aid" to the jihadists and subsiding the decadence of the Saudi Royals.

[BikeWriter]

15. I predicted this was coming yesterday! :-(

[Roland99]

16. IAEA and Putin say Iran not building nuclear weapons...so....Bush says

Go get 'em, Sharon!

[CWebster]

21. Then you have Russia and now Germany

drawing the line in the sand.

Now Iran, extends to Syria and now Iraq has a Shia ruling majority.

Saddam is starting to look like not such a threat, huh?

[Roland99]

22. Saddam never was a threat.

He only invaded Iran after Iraqi border cities were attacked by Iran.

He invaded Kuwait after Kuwait was holding back on some debt repayment and was claimed to be doing slant drilling.

Add in the no-fly zones and Saddam was contained. And, as Gen. Zinni pointed out, containment was working.

[CWebster]

30. Well, yes, I agree Roland99

but it was more about what they created out of nothing.

[Roland99]

35. Ayup...and they'll keep on doing it until our country and Congress wake up

[Megahurtz]

17. This fundamentalist fruitcake

is just pushing so hard for a war. He wants to "Bring 'em on" so bad.
Time to head for the hills somewhere.:scared:

[E-Z-B]

20. Can't get the link to work

Is anyone else having this problem?

[LinuxInsurgent]

26. isn't this like

giving Israel "the green light"?

Saddam sure misunderstood the "green light" he got from Bushie's father...let's hope Israel doesn't make that mistake...unless it wants a rain of Iranian missiles falling on its cities.

[jswordy]

32. Not really new...there have been several stories on this

And sure, we'll back Israel on anything it wants to do.

Some stories have suggested that Israel has been given the gren light to take a lead role in attacking Iran's nuk-ul-ar facilities. Maybe...have to wait and see.

[DU GrovelBot]

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[GOPBasher]

37. This is friggin petrifying. n/t

[Jacobin]

41. "You do it." "No, You do it." "No, YOU do it." "No YOUUU do it"

(Conversation overheard at summit between Smirk and Sharon)