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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:20 PM
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Chalabi set to become Iraq's PM, says Dan Senor
Senor, aka Campbell Brown's boyfriend, sounds here like a spokesman for Chalabi...

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1108610313049

Ahmed Chalabi is likely to emerge as Iraq's leader, as originally envisioned by the US, Dan Senor, the former spokesman for the US occupation government in Iraq, told The Jerusalem Post on Thursday.
"He has a good chance of getting the job," said Senor.

<snip>

According to Senor, Jaafari would probably have been assured of the post if Chalabi had not pushed – and succeeded – to get an internal vote of all the list members. Originally, the top leaders of the parties within the list were going to decide between themselves.

"Chalabi believes that if there's an up or down vote of the 141 members he has a better chance of winning," said Senor.

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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:23 PM
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1. So a known liar and convicted con man and international fugitive will
be PM of Iraq? Perfect. What happens if he visits Jordan and they arrest him?
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:30 PM
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5. Don't forget
Spy for Iran.

Good going, Whistle Ass.
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hopein08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:01 PM
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14. Men like him...
are in power here in the US right now. Forget Iraq, concentrate here.

Maybe the Iraqis will get lucky and he'll go to Jordan and be arrested.
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 05:59 PM
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26. Diplomatic immunity. He's a head of state.
Not only won't the Jordanians arrest him; they'll give him the red-carpet treatment, especially since he'll have the blessing of * & Co.
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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:03 PM
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36. Why not?
He fits right in with his US counterparts.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:26 PM
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2. Let's read between the lines a bit.
Up or down vote = everybody has to state their preference openly.

Secret vote = everybody votes for whom them wish.

They had been planning a secret vote. If Chalabi is likely to win on an up or down vote, what are the odds that the US is applying heavy arm-twisting to ensure just that, and to make sure anyone who doesn't want to vote for him knows what consequences he'll face?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:28 PM
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3. LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!
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Can imagine what Iraq is going to be like if Chalabi steals the vote?

LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!
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LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!
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Help me! I can't stop!

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(thud...)

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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:33 PM
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7. I second your sentiments.
In the immortal words of Nelson Muntz, "HAH-HAH!"

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:39 PM
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13. Let me third'em
Cause I L'dOL when I saw the headline...
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:46 PM
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16. Ummmm.....like America after Bush** stole the vote?
Can imagine what Iraq is going to be like if Chalabi steals the vote?

Oh, right: we have WMD and they don't.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:02 PM
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27. Incredible, isn't it....
I enjoyed your post, especially the exasperation shared by your final remark "(thud...)".

Chalabi becomes PM; GWB, after engineering a repeal of Presidential term limits (on Diebold black boxes), wins a third term; the earth spins violently into the sun...

just another day's evil, isn't it...

:(
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:04 PM
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29. Repeal of term limits....
think about what you just said. That means the Big Dawg can come back and run, and he enjoys more goodwill all over the country than the Chimperor.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:01 PM
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35. The Big Dawg...
...wouldn't stand a chance when more than 60% of the vote (and surely growing every year) is counted by black box voting machines manufactured by companies owned and operated by arch right wing fanatics. It would be GWB 50.9, the Big Dawg 49.1...

    It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes.
    --- Joseph Stalin

Note, however, that the only reason I think Bush was able to steal the last election is the Rovian Wurlitzer managed to manufacture enough actual votes to make a Bush win seem plausible.
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:00 AM
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37. Oh!! WOw!! so cool.
:eyes:
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:29 PM
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4. Beware the Jerusalem Post, it tends to hype stuff...
...that later doesn't happen. Yes, it will be an embarrassment to the U.S. if Chalabi gets PM. But let's wait and see if it really happens. The Post likes to raise the adrenaline of its Israeli readers. I take their stuff with a grain of salt until otherwise confirmed.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:31 PM
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6. it's a rag
and it's proabably backing Chalabi, and slanting its coverage in Chalabi's direction.

But that's interesting in itself, as is Senor's aligning with Chalabi.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 08:00 AM
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40. And Senor is now a mouthpiece for Rupert Murdoch
http://www.newshounds.us/2005/02/14/fox_news_hires_dan_senor.php

"Linda Vester announced today (February 14, 2005) on Dayside w/Linda Vester that Fox News has hired Senor as a "Fox News contributor.""
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:04 PM
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28. Thank goodness! (n/t)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:35 PM
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8. As Gomer would say, 'Surprise, Surprise. Shizamm'
Did anyone actually doubt that this criminal wouldn't participate?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:35 PM
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9. $300 billion is a lot, just to replace one Bush stooge with another
If BFEE eventually decided Saddam couldn't be trusted, I think they will quickly come to the same conclusion about Chalabi. Oh well, they have new wars to fight in Syria and Iran.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:37 PM
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10. Beware the violent repurcussions if that puppet gets the nod
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:37 PM
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11. Senor tought the war would be over in months too. I wouldn't believe
anything I hear from this administration. When Iraq announces
it, then we will know.
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:45 PM
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31. Off topic - but here's a "fun" pic of Senor with Dina Powell and friends
http://here-now.org/shows/2005/02/20050214_2.asp



Marit David, Dina Powell,
Kristen Silverberg,
Dan Senor & Pamela Theissen
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Brooklyn Michael Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:39 PM
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12. Prepare Now
Ladies and gentlemen, start your blogging....

If Chalabi is indeed chosen as Iraq's PM (and I pity the poor bastards if he is), we need to have an IMMEDIATE response. His shady background, his association with BushCo., his dealings with Iran,....all of it. This guy's as crooked as the day is long, and we cannot let * get out ONE speech on how this is an "historic moment" for Iraqis...:think:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:06 PM
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15. Hey Danny since we are talking about Iraq...
Do you know where the missing 9 BILLION is??? Scumbag...

Is spongedan squarehead REALLY dating Campbell brown? OMG I'm gonna vomit....
:puke:
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AValdoux Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:50 PM
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17. It's friday, Bad News Day
It's probably Chalabi. They are waiting until after the Prime News Schedule to release it.

What will the Iraqi reaction be? Don't they hate Chalabi? I guess a civil war gives us a good reason to stick around and enjoy our bases and new embassy.

AValdoux
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:53 PM
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18. I'm not sure you would be able to call it a civil war
I mean, EVERYBODY in Iraq hates Chalabi, not just the Sunnis. The Shiites hate him too.

Who would be on Chalabi's side in a 'civil war'? Just the US military and some Peshmerga mercenaries, I'd guess...

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:00 PM
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22. I agree with the timing
today would be a great day to make the announcement.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:53 PM
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19. Can Someone Explain To Me How The Shiite's Won, But Chalabi Becomes PM???
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 03:57 PM by Beetwasher
Seriously, how does that work? WTF??? INC is Shiite???
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:57 PM
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20. Ibrahim Jaafari will be PM according to more knowledgable sources
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 03:58 PM by leftchick
This is from Juan Cole's site.. http://juancole.com/

Tony Karon of Time profiles Ibrahim Jaafari, who will most likely be the new prime minister of Iraq. He says


' . . . Jaafari is a “Shiite modernist,” according to an AFP profile carried in the Tehran Times. He has signaled a moderate Islamist position on questions of religion and the state, advocating that Islam be constitutionally recognized as Iraq's official religion and a source (but not the sole source) of legislation, and that no laws will be passed that contradict Islamic values. At the same time, he favors protection of minority religious and ethnic groups, and insists that the first priority of a new government is not only to be as inclusive as possible of those who participated in the election, but also to draw in those who stayed away — almost half the eligible population (42 percent), including the vast majority of Sunnis . . . The U.S. is now faced with negotiating a relationship with a new government that reflects limited U.S. influence, and whose leaders enjoy historic ties with Iran.


The AFP profile notes,

' When talks were under way last February over the drafting the fundamental law which serves as Iraq's interim constitution, Jaafari was among those champions who favored Islam as the only source of legislation. But he has distanced himself from a hard line. "Secularism originally meant opposing God and religion. Now it is not the same. Islam has changed too. It is different from country to country," he said earlier this month. "It is true that some countries stop women from attending schools and others do not let women drive. For me that would be a problem . . ." Despite having been one of the first to organize demonstrations opposing the presence of U.S.-led troops on Iraqi soil, earlier this month he admitted their necessity -- for the time being. "Despite their presence here in Iraq, terrorism exists," Jaafari said. "Can you imagine what will happen if we ask them to leave? This could mean the beginning of a civil war." '

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:58 PM
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21. The biggest failure controls the White House.
Why shouldn't Iraqi's get their version of our rat? That's what they want. It's always so sad when they run out of uses for these rats. They just kill them off and get someone new. Our version of this guy is Negroponte. Sad.
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yebrent Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:18 PM
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23. I thought I heard on AA yesterday... (don't know exactly when)
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 04:36 PM by yebrent
Someone speculated that many of Iraq's new representatives are only claiming to support Chalabi as a negotiation tactic for who they really want as PM. As in, "If you don't support X, then I will be voting for Chalabi." No one in Iraq really expects Chalabi to win except maybe Chalabi. Everyone in Iraq hates him. The only reason he is still in the game is the money he has ripped off from Jordan and the US. Remember, the Pentagon was supporting his Iraqi exhile group while Chalabi was supplying bogus information. Plus, probably his share of the $9 billion missing.

It was also strongly speculated that the US negativity for Chalabi last year was most likely an attempt to give him credibility within Iraq. If you noticed lately, all the arrest and search of his residence stuff seemed to have disappeared since the election in Iraq.

on edit: It could have been NPR's All Things Considered.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:36 PM
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24. Saddam Mark II
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 05:57 PM
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25. Chalabie PM? Baseless propaganda according to Juan Cole
http://www.juancole.com/2005/02/shiites-have-majority-iraq_110867151708965021.html

Ibrahim Jaafari of the Dawa Party seems almost certain to win the prime minister slot. In my view the persistent reports that Ahmad Chalabi is still in the running are baseless propaganda coming out of Chalabi's formidable but empty PR apparatus. I take it he wants an important cabinet post, and this is his way of staking claim to it.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:11 PM
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30. Sorry off topic but is ...
Chalabi's cousin, who was one of the trial judges of Saddam, still under murder charges?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:34 PM
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32. Jpost is a tabloid rag
This is not LBN.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:47 PM
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34. AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
This is the best burlesque I've ever watched!!!

(But... ewww... Dan Senor... the very mention of him makes one's skin crawl.)

There could be no more perfect leader, than "Paper Moon" Chalabi, for what is a sham government, rising out of a sham war, made by a sham administration, which perpetrated sham "newscasts" on us. (We're the sham "free people".)
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The_Nick Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:15 AM
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38. Perfect.
Now that Chalabi will be the "democratically elected president" of Iraq, we can sell them more chemical weapons and send them to war with Iran. Then ten years later we can tell them we aren't interested in their envasion of an independant neighbor. Then when they invade we can bomb their infrastructure and set them up for ten years of sanctions. Then we can again falsely accuse them of having the chemical weapons we sold them (but they already used up), and repeat the whole thing! Sounds awesome!
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:17 AM
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39. Well - guess that proves it. Anyone want to stand up and tell the
class this wasn't predictable and why in 50 words or less?
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