Al-Qaeda number two warns West it faces thousands of dead, economic collapse

[Syrinx]

DUBAI (AFP) - Al-Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri warned the West
it faced defeat in what he termed its "new crusade" against the
Islamic world, as well as thousands of dead and economic collapse, in
a videotape aired by Al-Jazeera television.

"Your new crusade will end, God willing, with the same defeat as its
predecessors, but only after you have suffered tens of thousands of
dead and the destruction of your economy," Zawahiri said in his
message to "the peoples of the West" broadcast by the Qatar-based
satellite channel.

In his message, which he said was to mark the third anniversary of the
internment of Islamists at the US military base of Guantanamo Bay,
Cuba, Zawahiri also hit out at US plans for reform in the Arab and
Islamic worlds.

The US prison camp at Guantanamo "exposes the reality of the reform
and democracy that the United States claims to be trying to establish
in our countries", said the voice attributed to Zawahiri but whose
authenticity could not immediately be verified.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1504&ncid=1504&e=5&u=/afp/20050220/ts_afp/usqaedazawahiritape_050220195048

[brentspeak]

1. Somebody shut this guy up...permanently. n/t

[burythehatchet]

11. .

[leftofthedial]

2. and that has nothing to do with al Qaeda

that's just if the little bushturd serves the entire four years.

[two gun sid]

3. "Al-Oaeda warns west...

it faces thousands of dead, economic collapse", sounds like "Bin Laden determined to strike in US". I'm guessin' chimp will ignore this threat like he ignores everything else that doesn't fit his beliefs.

[radfringe]

28. ignore it?

most likely milk it for all the booga-booga scare-mongering that Rove can come up with

meanwhile - since the "warning" did not contain specifics, like dates, names, travel itinerary, i.d. photos, or addressess -- I don't expect the bushies* will do much about it

afterwards - there will be "outrage" -- and it will be blamed on Iran and Syria (or Clinton) -- Yeeee-hawww -- there's the "justification" for another invasion

[bluestateguy]

4. Now THAT MAN is a terrorist

and he needs to be stopped and/or killed.

Our war in Iraq has only added to the ranks of his followers and diverted resources away from catching the real terrorists, the people who actually attacked us on 9/11.

[RelativelyJones]

9. You got that right.

[nookiemonster]

5. Thanks for the warning Al-Qaida,

but we're still not taking our eyes off the GG story. Sorry.

[prodigal_green]

7. my thoughts exactly.

I guess they weren't expecting to have to use al Qaeda after the election, but here we are...

are we at code saffron yet?

[Name removed]

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[whistle]

8. Who is Zawahiri, well this is what I've found on him.....

<snip>

Amyan Al-Zawahiri
In his book The New Jackals, terrorism expert Simon Reeve quotes an intelligence official who says "Going after (Osama bin Laden) to stop terror is like going after the Colonel to attack KFC."
Pursuing Ayman Al-Zawahiri, on the other hand, is more going after Dick Cheney to stop the Bush administration. It's kind of crazy, but it just might work.

Zawahiri is the CEO of al Qaeda, as opposed to bin Laden's chairman of the board. A lifelong jihadist with a globe-sized chip on his shoulder, Zawahiri is the No. 2 most wanted terrorist in the world, after only bin Laden himself. He's widely characterized as the No. 2 man in al Qaeda.

Born in 1951, Zawahiri is a senior statesman in the world of international terrorism (owing in part to the fact that many of his colleagues have had "early retirements"). His aliases include Abu Muhammad, Abu Fatima, Muhammad Ibrahim, Abu Abdallah, Abu al-Mu'iz, The Doctor, The Teacher, Nur, Ustaz, Abu Mohammed, Abu Mohammed Nur al-Deen, Abdel Muaz. This might be useful information if you're looking to collect the $25 million bounty offered by the U.S. government for his capture, but only experienced bounty hunters need apply. Zawahiri has spent a lifetime waging jihad around the globe. His specialties include assassination and suicide bombing, and he's gathered a virtual army of mujahideen fighters around himself. Unless you happen to be Chuck Norris, you might want to stay home and read a good book.

<more, link> http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/terrorists/ayman-al-zawahiri/

[TheWraith]

10. Yawn.

Somebody shut this guy up. His bullshit is as ridiculous and predicable as Bush's. Kith and kin, the two of them, just on opposite sides of the fence. Both power-hungry lunatics who think they're God's chosen man to lead the true believers into holy war and the end of the world. Fuck 'em.

[ananda]

12. no need to attack USA

It looks to me as if 911 has succeeded in doing the kind of economic, social, and cultural damage that any enemy of the USA might wish. Thus, there's no need to attack the USA again. That's probably why they're putting a lot of effort into driving us out of Iraq... except that Bushco is truly crazzee and won't leave... and by Bushco I mean also all the pro-war Dems.

There is no united sanity in the USA right now. All rationality has gone out the collective window.

Is malignant egophrenia catching worldwide? We'll know for sure as Bush tours Europe. My hopes are not high.

Sue

[OKthatsIT]

13. Who gives a rats ass...its probably Rove, anyway.

come on folks...all these terrorists, just play right into Bush and Rove's manipulation of the masses.

Whose side are they on, anyway? Would the REAL TERRORISTS please stand up?

[lala_rawraw]

16. I would

Suggest someone check at Fox news, since these tapes come to light almost per order. That said, however, the Gitmo situation and other such talk would not come from the Bush machine as they are trying hard to deny reality. My guess is that the Osama tapes are staged, but this might be real. Also, I have no doubt that Gitmo is pissing people off and they are probably going to take revenge. Only this time around, the rest of the world will turn their back on us. So nice to be an Amerikan.

[trapper914]

30. Gitmo talk

...sounds EXACTLY like something from turd blossom. The man distributed flyers accusing his own candidate of being gay, just so they could feign outrage.

[lala_rawraw]

31. Not sure

Not his style... this is a far cry from spreading rumors... the TV watching public still thinks there is no one at Gitmo, or just "the bad" people. This opens up another dialogue. I think it is more his style to be that American on the tape right before the election... remember that tape?

[detroitguy]

14. Ahhhh... Hellloooo... George... Hello...

...THAT is a terrorst. That is a threat you should take seriously. Let's end the war in Iraq and get to the REAL war on terrorism, shall we?

[lala_rawraw]

15. Well

Nice to see the Bush team's hard work has finally paid off: now there is a war on terror. Gitmo is like playing "dare-a-terrorist"

[booksenkatz]

17. So when our economy crashes....

AQ gets the blame instead of Bush's ruinous policies. Interesting.

[HeeBGBz]

18. Tell us something we DON'T know

Wanker #2.

[shadowknows69]

19. What's scary

is that I think they can probably pull it off. thank you in advance to the shining armored assholes who started it and the chimp faced boy king who seems bent on ending it for fu*king up things for all of us. history repeats itself with nuclear weapons. you thought we had a dark ages before.

[spanone]

20. Doesn't he know how safe we are?

[Patiod]

21. Truth is, these warnings make me nervous

I commute in and out of a major city every day. There are not too many mornings or evenings that I don't look over the huge number of commuters, and picture the bombing in Spain. Maybe I'm paranoid. I just think groups this large with zero security present a target. It doesn't keep me from going to work, or cause me to lose sleep, but it's one more worry.

I think that's why the freaking soccer mom in Kansas, etc. pissed me off so much in the last election. I'd see their smug little faces on TV, saying how SCARED for their CHILDREN and how Georgie would keep them o so much safer. As if anybody in al-Quaeda gave a rat's ass about their cozy little small town/suburb.

Meanwhile, those of us living in probable target, all of which are in solidly Blue areas, knew that Bush's posturing and "bring 'em on" was doing nothing to keep us safe.

[Jamastiene]

29. Don't live in fear.

It's what Bush and the Islamist terrorists want you to do. Instead, hope and pray that they don't get the idea to start strapping bombs to themselves and suicide bombing us here in America like they do "over there". I'm still irked that Fox and the WH insisted on calling those "homocide bombers". All bombings are for the purpose of homocide. Honestly though, please don't live in fear. That is, after all, what both the terrorists and Bush would want. If he can keep your knees knocking, he can control your decisions and how you think. Please don't let him do that to you.

[hatrack]

22. Al who?

Are they some sort of terror group? Haven't heard a thing about them from the government in the last year or two. :eyes:

[Paintedlady]

23. I think he is talking about

How the US will be defeated in Iraq and that our economy will be ruined from the cost of war. Just like what happened to the Soviet Union in their war against Afghanistan.
I would say they are getting close on the economy, and according to the Voice of the White House the real number of dead soldiers are more like 7000 I think they said, so we are not too far off on that one either.

It's kind of the same message that was in the video from the resistance.

[smoogatz]

24. More attacks in the US are probably inevitable.

Our borders are essentially open, our ports, chemical plants and nuclear facilities are virtually unprotected, even civil aviation is only marginally more secure than it was pre-9/11. I think we probably did a lot more damage to al Qaeda in Afghanistan than either side is really letting on--and that's the only reason we don't have truck bombs exploding all over LA and Manhattan. If Qaeda really is fighting us in Iraq, it seems like a tactical error on their part. If they were anywhere near as smart as Bushco keeps telling us they are, they'd be quietly regrouping, retraining and rearming. The good news for us is that they're not that smart--all those US soldiers in Iraq have turned out to be an irresistable (and lethal) target for a lot of Qaeda wannabes. The bad news is that our government is even dumber than the people running al Qaeda--as proved in the run-up to 9/11. It is unacceptable that the planners and inciters of 9/11 are still running around loose.

[Syrinx]

25. they called him "number two"

Does that mean he's a piece of shit?

[TahitiNut]

26. As Osama bin Laden enjoys his 1,259th day alive and free after 9/11.

"Dead or Alive," George? Where's Osama while you wage war on Social Security, Smirk?

[zann725]

27. It's usually OBL who releases a taped threat when WH wants to distract us

Haven't we been saying the last couple days...that due to the sudden interest of MSM in Gannongate...that a new OBL tape would soon surface? Maybe we've seen all the old OBL tapes (the last one was 3 years old), so instead we got this? Not to diminish this tape, but the timing of it bothers me.

This should keep Gannongate out of the top news slot for a few days. And should remind all the sheeple how much they need Bushco to guide them...regardless of their choice of bedfellows.

[Acryliccalico]

35. It is odd that this

tape comes when the Gannon thing is on going. Makes for a nice distraction so the spin can go into gear and completely put the Gannon thing right out of peoples minds. Then if the subject comes up again , it will just be 'OLD news not worth mentioning except for the people who wish to attack*'. Maybe I am becoming cynical but someone has to be IMHO:kick:

[smirkymonkey]

32. "Thousands of dead and economic collapse..."

Hah! We're doing that quite nicely on our own, thank you very much!

[Toucano]

33. It's pretty bad when the terrorist is more trustworthy than the

"things are going great" President.

[Roland99]

34. Just more propaganda from the nutcases to combat Bush's own propagannon

[depakid]

36. Thousands of dead and an economic collapse?

Memo to Al Qeada: this is old news....

Next time, at least tell us something that we don't know.

[shamalama]

37. Al-Qaeda will set up US the bomb

Zawahiri simply hasn't been in the worldwide news in a couple of days, and he needs air time.

Who is really pulling his strings: OBL or Rove?

[jbane]

38. They say the same thing we do...sort of.

Unspecified, vaque threats from them. Unspecified vague warnings from our Govt.