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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:50 PM Original message |
Raising children as vegans 'unethical', says professor |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't think dying of starvation qualifies as a "vegan diet" |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
59. Starch based diets are horrible, but vegan diets are not |
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mcg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #59 |
104. The myth that vegan/vegetarian means not enough protein. |
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hellbound-liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:01 PM Response to Reply #104 |
139. There are so many ignoramt comments on this thread, it's hard |
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GoSolar (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 01:36 PM Response to Reply #139 |
219. Thanks, Irkthesmirk. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #139 |
220. If eating meat is bad for us, why do we have a digestive system designed |
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SomewhereOutThere424 (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #104 |
145. Your main reasons... |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:53 PM Response to Reply #104 |
156. This reminds me of the Monsanto argument that people blocking genetically |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 10:18 AM Response to Reply #104 |
196. Brocolli? |
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LiberallyInclined (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
182. starch is not a natural part of the human diet. |
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Morose (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
131. you nailed it. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. there's a big gulf between |
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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Whoa, nelly! Vegan=child abuse? |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. its wrong to impart extreme nutritional beliefs on children |
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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. So people who are vegan for religious or cultural reasons |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. yup |
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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. I would argue that the typical American diet is a pretty dangerous thing |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. you're bridging a totally unrelated topic, though |
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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #64 |
89. Not totally unrelated |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. I don't understand why it 's more ethical and less brainwashing to |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. however |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Why is respect for animals more extreme than respect for humans? |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. respect for animals is not extreme |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. Why should they be forced into a meat-eating lifestyle? |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. This is exactly my point in this thread |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. so in other words |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. Okay I ADMIT IT, I'm a veggie Cultist!!! |
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Damien (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. good point |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. good |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. I do I do |
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imaginary girl (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 12:23 PM Response to Reply #91 |
213. Yes, you're a veggie cultist |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 05:16 PM Response to Reply #81 |
133. Why don't you take your kids... |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:37 PM Original message |
its not as if you're denying them vegetables |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
124. from meat to willies.. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
135. That's not how I'm looking at it at all |
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WillParkinson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #62 |
189. "Deprived"? |
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SomewhereOutThere424 (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
148. It is respected |
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FuzzyDicePHL (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 09:43 AM Response to Reply #39 |
191. Belief system brainwashing = raising your children |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
144. a vegan diet isn't a religion for crying out loud. |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 11:02 AM Response to Reply #144 |
205. bingo! |
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gorbal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 09:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
177. If children get their nutrients it's not abuse, sorry. |
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mcg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 10:09 PM Response to Reply #177 |
179. some people might ask "You don't eat grubs? what's wrong with you?" |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
203. wtf??? |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Bullshit. |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Pffft! I prefer to wait until he's old enough to choose to eat meat |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. I am a vegetarian |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
121. Amen. I agree with you, |
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Drifter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. Amen ... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
69. My youngest daughter became a vegetarian at age 4 by choice |
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mutus_frutex (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
34. I know you are going to be flamed, but I agree completely. |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Good girl! |
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mutus_frutex (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. Talk about a non sequitur.. |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #60 |
76. Gah! I'm never going to get any work done today with this thread up! |
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Crowdance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #76 |
100. I've got three strong, healthy veggie kids |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:46 PM Response to Reply #100 |
115. I was very anti-vegetarian before I became one... |
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Crowdance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:29 PM Response to Reply #115 |
127. Veggie dogs are not quite the statement that hot dogs are |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:42 PM Response to Reply #100 |
154. I can hang with not wanting your house to smell of stinking meat, but... |
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Crowdance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 08:39 PM Response to Reply #154 |
172. Don't be worrying about it. |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #172 |
175. I'm sure you're right......... |
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athenap (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 11:39 AM Response to Reply #60 |
212. Babies can get a balanced diet... |
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mutus_frutex (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #212 |
231. Just a tiny problem with my use of english.. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
65. polygamy is natural? |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #65 |
78. =) |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
155. No, but many animals mate for life. n/t |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
48. Stick around, and you'll find that tired talking point has been shot down |
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mutus_frutex (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
71. We could argue forever about this.. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
73. You're confusing the issue. Humans are "designed" to eat meat. |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. From another thread.... |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:48 PM Response to Reply #84 |
116. Fantastic post! |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
92. Humans Are NOT Designed To Eat Meat. Their Teeth Are Those Of |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 05:59 PM Response to Reply #92 |
138. Yep. See the skulls I posted in #66 |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #92 |
221. Tell that to an Inuit - or a Mongolian. How would an Inuit survive |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #73 |
129. So let's see you |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #129 |
222. Distinction without a difference. Cultural adaptations have a genetic |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
150. Aren't we humans CARNIVORES or OMNIVORES??? n/t |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 07:42 PM Response to Reply #150 |
164. Have you even read this thread or did you just jump to my post? |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #150 |
194. You're not a slave to genetics. |
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d.l.Green (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
72. I am vegan because I am educated. Call what you eat what you will... |
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mutus_frutex (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #72 |
235. Nice!! |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
90. Wrong! Humans Evolved As Frugivores. Fruit Eaters- With Grains Being |
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mutus_frutex (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 01:01 PM Response to Reply #90 |
236. Go and read a bit more.. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
126. Child abuse? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 05:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
134. That is ultimate stupidity |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 12:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
215. Since When Do Kids Have A Choice Anyway? |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. As an ag school catering to beef production UCD is hardly objective |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
142. Good question.... |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
223. As an ag school UCD also "caters" to crop production. So what is your |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. f*cking rediculous! |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 08:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
167. FWIW, I agree |
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WillParkinson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 09:37 AM Response to Reply #167 |
190. You *LOATHE* Vegans? |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #190 |
216. 'Veganphobic' is accurate enough. |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 10:17 AM Response to Reply #167 |
195. Sorry you loathe me |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. McDonalds and Lunchables? |
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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I was making as spurious a connection |
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verdalaven (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
8. I agree with Sir Paul..... |
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hezekkia (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
118. well, if Paul McCartney said it, it must be true |
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verdalaven (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:40 PM Response to Reply #118 |
130. I just agreed with McCartney |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
10. mail this fool a copy of SUPERSIZE ME! |
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mudderfudder77 (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. How does eating meat |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. study up is my advice |
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Democrat Dragon (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
63. I read that book too |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. And this gal probably calls herself a scientist. Crikey, morans EVERYWHERE |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. If he's a scientist, why doesn't he instead publish an article |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. That's exactly what he did |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
122. Actually, it wasn't Allen who explained the bit about |
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soaky (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 01:03 AM Response to Reply #20 |
183. mmmmm vegemite |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. The bottom line is proper nutrition |
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kamqute (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. the analogy of fast food:child abuse::veganism:child abuse implies.. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. veganism is just as capable of becoming child abuse. |
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cliss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
16. That means that 99.99% of all Hindus are unethical. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Tain't so ... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
58. Most Hindus are NOT vegan |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
82. A true and funny thing about Buddhist monastics. |
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illflem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. If you believe in evolution |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. And if you believe in evolution... |
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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. AND if you believe in evolution, |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
93. Again, Humans Have The Teeth Of Frugivores NOT Omnivores |
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jmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
18. What's unethical is calling somebody who |
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Stop_the_War (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
22. Being vegan is perfectly healthy.... |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 12:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
214. I guess the best way of saying it is that a vegan diet *can* be |
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Citizen Jane (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
23. UGH! |
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Citizen Jane (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. BTW, not trying to hijack thread n/t |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
28. My 2 year old granddaughter won't eat beef |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. well, you're at least letting her choose |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. I agree -- being a food nazi IS child abuse! |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. If the child asks for chocolate twenty times a day |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Well, I didn't climb to the top of the food chain to eat.... |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
61. Really? You personally climbed? |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
102. Yes, I did, and I'm exhausted....... |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:30 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. Actually, I'm against zoos, too. |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:49 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. I hate zoos too, especially seeing the big cats caged...... |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:08 PM Response to Reply #117 |
140. Regarding man being number one |
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WillParkinson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 09:47 AM Response to Reply #37 |
193. Funny thing about the "Food Chain".... |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
33. The presence of our canine teeth does suggest we're natural carnivores |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. What if they don't like brocolli, zuchini, whole grains, spinach, |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Have you read the study that says kids naturally choose a balanced diet? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. I nominate this for "most educative post of the year." |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
113. Good post |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 08:34 PM Response to Reply #113 |
171. yes, but as teenagers they just don't go as insane as we do |
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SomewhereOutThere424 (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
153. I guess I'm the black sheep |
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booksenkatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. I sometimes wonder about the "children are picky eaters" idea |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. I think kids have more sensitive taste buds |
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booksenkatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
75. I don't understand tastebuds! LOL |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
217. Picky Eaters and Bad Sleepers |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
66. Let's examine the teeth issue: |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #66 |
79. our closest primate relatives -- chimpanzees -- eat meat |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. What meat do chimps eat? |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. chimps are predatory |
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mudderfudder77 (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:02 PM Original message |
Thanks for the link |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 05:53 PM Response to Reply #88 |
136. Chimps are opportunists, like most omnivores |
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SomewhereOutThere424 (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:54 PM Response to Reply #88 |
157. (misplaced post, ignore) |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #88 |
238. Because of the efficiency it enables them in their diet. |
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Andromeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 07:39 PM Response to Reply #85 |
163. Chimps will kill other monkeys... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
106. Be honest; which animal's teeth most closely resembles |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:08 PM Response to Reply #106 |
141. Man is an omnivore........if you don't believe that........ |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 11:16 AM Response to Reply #66 |
209. A horse's teeth |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #66 |
226. Which skull |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 07:09 AM Response to Reply #33 |
186. Indeed. I've seen young people who abstain from meat. |
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mutus_frutex (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. Although I agree with the conclusions, |
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booksenkatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
42. Sometimes I wonder if we're naturally born to be vegetarians? |
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jmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Adults understand but most still eat it |
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booksenkatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
83. Well, but... |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. Tofu is a good protein source. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
70. After examining the teeth of various animals |
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booksenkatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. Oh goodie, Lorien! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #80 |
112. Thanks Patsified! |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #70 |
86. but we've been eating meat for 2.5 million years |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #86 |
110. From the article: |
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Chico Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
111. Does he like yogurt or nuts? |
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booksenkatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #111 |
119. Yes |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
52. But but but PETA are the only ones who spout unbelievable BS! |
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OneMind (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
57. Sir Paul got it right: "rubbish" n/t |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
67. Before you all get your panties in a bunch |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
87. You've hit the nail on the head. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #67 |
114. good post |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
68. Heh. Like the guy said, |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #68 |
95. Actually that's why a lot of us are vegetarians |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 05:57 PM Response to Reply #95 |
137. That's the first reasonable post in this thread |
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dameocrat (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
94. Sounds like they are using a study of malnourished protein |
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Damien (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. thank you |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. Exactly. Which makes this a BS study. |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
101. Really. May as well bring a salt and chemical lick to the table. |
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hollowdweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
105. I don't think it's abuse, but almost every vegan kid I know has really |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. Has anyone every published a book on how to cover all your bases... |
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Chico Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
107. What if you eat vegan through a pregnancy? |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:13 PM Response to Reply #107 |
125. Absolutely not!!! How could it be???? n/t |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
120. I wouldn't argue for a McDonalds-based diet |
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Kable (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
123. Vegan |
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Mrs_Beastman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
128. What BS |
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tlcandie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
132. I was raised on meat, potatoes, bread and some canned veggie |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:19 PM Response to Reply #132 |
146. Real food for real people... |
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DARE to HOPE (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:38 PM Response to Reply #132 |
151. I don't know, gang--I think everybody's different... |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
143. The ADA approves veg*an diets |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:22 PM Response to Reply #143 |
147. My wife tells me the new Food pyramid will be calling for... |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
149. Vegan is no dairy, either.. right? Vegetarian seems better for kids. |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:41 PM Response to Reply #149 |
152. What are the books? |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
158. this jerk needs to get a real cause, like how well are the children |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
159. Under 2 years old |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 07:07 PM Response to Reply #159 |
162. That's not a vegan diet. |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 08:31 PM Response to Reply #159 |
170. Can you document that? |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 08:34 AM Response to Reply #159 |
188. Please post a link to your claim! |
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SomewhereOutThere424 (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
160. It's funny yet sad |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 10:39 AM Response to Reply #160 |
201. Good point |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #160 |
227. Have you figured out |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
161. Our son has been a lacto-ovo-vegetarian since he was eight |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
165. If you own cats or dogs -- your household is eating more meat than mine |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 08:28 PM Response to Reply #165 |
169. I don't own any dogs or cats, I do, however, |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
166. Should vegetarians own dogs and cats? |
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Merope215 (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 09:09 PM Response to Reply #166 |
173. Well... |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 09:12 PM Response to Reply #173 |
174. I don't own any carnivores -- can they REALLY thrive on vegan diets? |
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Merope215 (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 09:34 PM Response to Reply #174 |
176. I haven't done it myself |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #176 |
178. I'm not sure of the significance, but in the wild..... |
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don954 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 11:34 PM Response to Reply #178 |
180. No, that has a much more utilitarian purpose |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 10:25 AM Response to Reply #180 |
198. Sorry, can't buy that one............. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 10:30 AM Response to Reply #198 |
200. What they're after is the liver and spleen |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #200 |
204. That I can buy.....but......... |
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Damien (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 02:34 AM Response to Reply #176 |
185. thanks |
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don954 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 11:38 PM Response to Reply #173 |
181. as long as they have taurine supplements, then they will be fine |
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Damien (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 02:33 AM Response to Reply #166 |
184. vegetarian cat owner here |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 11:33 AM Response to Reply #184 |
211. A few things... |
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Damien (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #211 |
225. interesting |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-21-05 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
168. This professor should concentrate on artifical flavors and dyes - because |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
187. I would suggest that veganism is purely a modern concept |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 10:20 AM Response to Reply #187 |
197. Good thing we live in modern times! |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #187 |
199. Yep. It's a luxury. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 10:42 AM Response to Reply #199 |
202. You're right - Lack of moderation is the real problem |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
192. actually, i've seen a couple studies which indicated a possiblity... |
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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
206. Wow! When I posted this article, I had no idea it would spark all this |
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Damien (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #206 |
228. welcome back |
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d.l.Green (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 12:43 PM Response to Reply #228 |
234. The world will thank you! |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
207. Opportunism - |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 11:14 AM Response to Reply #207 |
208. A perfectly sensible post n/t |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #208 |
218. LOL, well, I try to be perfectly sensible |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
210. Harvard Health on Vegetarian/Vegan Nutrition |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
224. I'm sure that the U.S. Nutritionist's claim has nothing to do |
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John_H (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
229. My kids are vegans. I make extra money by renting out their canine teeth. |
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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-22-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #229 |
230. Way to sum up this thread, John H! |
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ConcernedDemocrat (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
232. Leave Vegans Alon Prof |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
233. Two words= soy beans |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
237. Well if Sir Paul McCartney calls this study rubbish then it must be |
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