At Home, a Hard Sell On Social Security (Wash. Post A 01)

[stevedeshazer]

Wisconsin Republican Touts Bush's Plan

By Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, February 22, 2005; Page A01

STURTEVANT, Wis., Feb. 21 -- Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) spent his holiday discovering that President Bush's idea of adding personal accounts to Social Security can be as hard to sell back home as it is in Washington.

Ryan, who will help write the legislation as a member of the Ways and Means subcommittee on Social Security and is a longtime proponent of changing the popular government retirement program, is pushing the White House idea to farmers and factory workers throughout his district in the southeastern corner of the dairy state, with 35 "listening sessions" in 12 days.

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) talks about Social Security in Sturtevant, Wis. Ryan is traveling his district to promote the White House idea of personal accounts.

Beginning his seven-stop day in the corn-growing town of Darien at breakfast time Monday, Ryan drew five people -- with an average age of 69 -- for a PowerPoint presentation in which he outlined what he called the "ugly options" of tax increases and benefit cuts if Social Security is not changed. He touted individual stock and bond accounts as a way younger workers can more than double their future benefits and put up a photograph of Albert Einstein along with his quote about the powerful force of compound interest.

But Jim Kieselburg, 66, a retired printing manager who now sells appliances part time, said he is worried about a market crash. "Worst-case scenario -- if everything goes flop?" Kieselburg asked.

a lot more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42455-2005Feb21.html

[Erika]

1. Plus the invetment brokers take

and Bush's limit of profitability. Anything over 3% will revert to Wall Street. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[TahitiNut]

2. Notice that the corporate media is using "personal accounts"

The GOPhascists did a marketing study and found that "personal account" sells more than "private account" - a shift of 17%.

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=170x3782

(God, people can be stupid!) :eyes:

Right now, GoogleNews "private accounts" yields 8,820 results, while GoogleNews "personal accounts" yields 6,910 results. Watch this change in coming days!

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=%22personal+accounts%22&btnG=Search+News
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=%22private+accounts%22&btnG=Search+News

[stevedeshazer]

4. Right on cue, in the first paragraph.

I prefer "piratization" personally. :)

I tried googling "Saving Social Security", their all-encompassing lie line for this fiasco...

'Results 1 - 10 of about 2,580,000 for saving social security. (0.34 seconds)'

I'm surprised that phrase didn't make it into this article.

[TahitiNut]

6. It's how the GOP controls the language - with corporate media complicity

When language itself, which we'd suppose is media turf, is under GOPhascist partisan control then we're clearly under assault.

[Doremus]

3. He's a 'gas pedal' guy, huh -- well, take your gas guzzling SUV

and your schemes to bilk as much money as you can out of the treasury and into the pockets of your fat cat friends and go drive over the nearest cliff.

Effing repukes think everybody's as stupid as they are.

[GetTheRightVote]

5. I am hopeful the American Public see thru * attempt to steal from us

:kick:

[physioex]

7. I hope so as well.....

This needs to crash and burn big time.....

[subterranean]

8. Whole lot of toutin' goin' on

I wonder if Ryan mentioned that guaranteed benefits will be cut even if Social Security is changed. The difference is that if Bush has his way, it will happen a lot sooner.

[truthisfreedom]

9. sometimes you can't lacquer up a pile of s**t enough to make the sale.

no matter how shiny, some things are just plain disgusting.